Champions League Semi Finals (30th April - 8th May)

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I hope you're right but despite Messi's brilliance, Barcelona, even this year, managed to get just one goal from two ties away to Lyon and United.
I just don't see it set in stone that they'll score so I hope they're good enough in defense not to concede 3.
The good news is that Messi has scored more goals vs the EPL top six teams than anyone actually playing in the Premier League itself.:lol:

What kind of stat is that?!
 

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How exactly does 3-0 flatter Barca when they should have won by at least 4?

All I keep reading is the score line flattered Barca, why? Because Liverpool had a plucky attitude?
Because 3-0 indicates Barcelona was in huge domination of the match.

I'm not saying we deserved more, because like I said.. We couldn't take our chances and they could, so fair enough..
 

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Because 3-0 indicates Barcelona was in huge domination of the match.

We couldn't take our chances and they could, so fair enough..
Winners score more goals. Losers complain about missed chances. Your objective next tuesday is to score at least 4 + clean sheet. Good luck.
 

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Because 3-0 indicates Barcelona was in huge domination of the match.

I'm not saying we deserved more, because like I said.. We couldn't take our chances and they could, so fair enough..
And that's not true either, if they 'could have taken their chances' it would've ended at least with 5 given Dembele's antics in the last 5 minutes or so.
 

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Because 3-0 indicates Barcelona was in huge domination of the match.

I'm not saying we deserved more, because like I said.. We couldn't take our chances and they could, so fair enough..
In balance, though, at the beginning of the 2nd half, Messi put in two unbelievable through balls to Suarez and Vidal. Easy enough to argue that at least one of those should have resulted in a a goal-scoring attempt.
 

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I can only imagine Liverpool actually winning 3-0 (+ et) next tuesday if City drops points this weekend and Pool are PL leaders again.

The euphoria could make them go berserk and break Barcelona 3-0, park the bus and go for the pens or a dive at '92, the feckers. Thank God for VAR.
 

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And that's not true either, if they 'could have taken their chances' it would've ended at least with 5 given Dembele's antics in the last 5 minutes or so.
Yes.. They could have scored more, but you can't expect to score on ALL your chances.
 

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Because 3-0 indicates Barcelona was in huge domination of the match.

I'm not saying we deserved more, because like I said.. We couldn't take our chances and they could, so fair enough..
Don't really think so. You did a great job at breaking their usual dominance and turning the tie into a match generally on eye height, but Barca were much better in creating actual chances. Rakitic, Suarez, Vidal and Sergi Roberto all were through on goal and decided to pass it in the legs of the defenders instead of shooting from 5-10 meters. Dembele missed the gigantic chance on the 4:0 shortly before the final whistle and he had another great opportunity. Then there also were quite a few half chances. I can only think of two clear chances from Liverpool and those were the shot from around 10 meters that Ter Stegen caught as well as Salah's shot that hit the post.
 

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Watched the game in a pub full of Pool fans including the bar staff in Dublin. What a night! Man but they are deluded.The goon of a barman was ‘quite confident ‘ of a score draw and a comfy 2 or 3 goal win at Anfield against a Barca team that even United caused problems for.Messi he told me was overrated as fcuk.
He looked sick when the overrated one stuck the 3rd in the Scousers net.
By closing time he had recovered and still thinks they can make the final as Barca will wilt at Anfield.
Laughed my ass off all the way home.
 

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So Barcelona’s last home defeat in the CL was against Bayern in 2013...six years ago.
 

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Saw this on Twitter:

Liverpool have a fountain to climb in the second leg.

I am still expecting them to do it though the way this season from hell is going.
 

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Don't really think so. You did a great job at breaking their usual dominance and turning the tie into a match generally on eye height, but Barca were much better in creating actual chances. Rakitic, Suarez, Vidal and Sergi Roberto all were through on goal and decided to pass it in the legs of the defenders instead of shooting from 5-10 meters. Dembele missed the gigantic chance on the 4:0 shortly before the final whistle and he had another great opportunity. Then there also were quite a few half chances. I can only think of two clear chances from Liverpool and those were the shot from around 10 meters that Ter Stegen caught as well as Salah's shot that hit the post.
Yeah well.. We also had Manés in front of goal and Salahs shot down the left corner. But you're right. They created the most clear chances. I think we had many opportunities and half chances though where we simply lacked the quality in the final ball.
 

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You seriously can't think that a Pool team who I'm not sure have actually conceded even 2 goals more than a mere handful of times this season are suddenly taking a pasting.
So looks like I was right.

The game called out for a goal from Mane or Salah. Usually Mane pulls through. Salah almost never does. Time and time again when everything is going against you, Salah disappears. Yes, he might score the second goal in an important game or something like that but rarely he does it when things are going against you. Ofcourse you'll hear nothing about it until he scores a deflected shot from a goalkeeper clanger and he's back to world class again.

Liverpool not scoring any away goals killed this tie.
It's going to be Barcelona - Ajax in the final.
 

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Liverpool played alright I thought.
Barcelona are clinical though, another level clinical.
I can see Liverpool scoring a goal or two at home and who knows with football
 

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It is laughable how underrated Barca are on this forum

Don’t think this is one of their best teams but defensively they did well enough although pool deserved at least a goal

Roma collapse won’t happen again, Barca have learned their lesson
I think it's more like people are under-rating Liverpool after a 3-0 scoreline. You were literally outplayed for large parts of the game. I was honestly surprised. I didn't expect Barcelona to be like that.

Klopp totally got it wrong just like Pochettino did yesterday though. Gomez at RB, Wijnaldum in a diamond, Keita in midfield. Ridiculously stupid.
You have a much better team than Liverpool as well so you will probably beat them at Anfield as well and go through.
 

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Didn't expect Barcelona to win 3-0. Fantastic.

Messi's freekick was absolutely perfect.
 

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I think it's more like people are under-rating Liverpool after a 3-0 scoreline. You were literally outplayed for large parts of the game. I was honestly surprised. I didn't expect Barcelona to be like that.

Klopp totally got it wrong just like Pochettino did yesterday though. Gomez at RB, Wijnaldum in a diamond, Keita in midfield. Ridiculously stupid.
You have a much better team than Liverpool as well so you will probably beat them at Anfield as well and go through.
He should've played his strongest team - TAA and Firmino starting.
 

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Liverpool have had a ridiculous amount of good fortune this season, but thankfully it is coming to a crashing end just as the prizes are about to be handed out.
 
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So Barcelona’s last home defeat in the CL was against Bayern in 2013...six years ago.
Yes and that was off the back of 4-0 defeat to Bayen, before tonight Barcelona had never beaten Liverpool at home. Barcelona's away form gives Liverpool a glimmer of hope and only last year Liverpool in Anfield scored 3 goals in 30 minutes against Man City and you supporters won't need reminding that 2005 Liverpool managed to win the CL final when 3-0 down at half time so the history is there for another comeback win.
 

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Liverpool played alright I thought.
Barcelona are clinical though, another level clinical.
I can see Liverpool scoring a goal or two at home and who knows with football
You kind of nailed it. I think we played well during certain phases of the game and we created chances. We just didn't capitalize on those chances. We needed to be more clinical. While we were still controlling the game before Barca's 2nd goal, we needed an injection of an offensive guy. TAA should have been playing. He has his deficiencies, but he didn't miss a long time due to injury. That's on Jürgen. Finally, the free kick by Messi was something.

All I want now is we keep our head high and try to win the rest of our remaining games.
 

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Didn't expect Barcelona to win 3-0. Fantastic.

Messi's freekick was absolutely perfect.
I did.

English teams are incredibly overhyped. No CL win in at least 8 years and counting likely now.

Messi/Ronaldo led teams have won 8 out of the past 11 CL's (likely to be 9 out of 12), every time an English side faces Messi or Ronaldo they fall flat on their arses.
 

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500 million at a minimum of near is 220 million

In Fantasy league he would be 17 million
Bare in mind he's nearly 32 so would 500 million be worth it for a few seasons at most?

If he was 22 he might be the first billion pound player though.
 

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I hope you're right but despite Messi's brilliance, Barcelona, even this year, managed to get just one goal from two ties away to Lyon and United.
I just don't see it set in stone that they'll score so I hope they're good enough in defense not to concede 3.
Barca will be fine, this team is better than last years and the year before.
 

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I think it's more like people are under-rating Liverpool after a 3-0 scoreline. You were literally outplayed for large parts of the game. I was honestly surprised. I didn't expect Barcelona to be like that.

Klopp totally got it wrong just like Pochettino did yesterday though. Gomez at RB, Wijnaldum in a diamond, Keita in midfield. Ridiculously stupid.
You have a much better team than Liverpool as well so you will probably beat them at Anfield as well and go through.
We were but Pool weren't clinical at all. Barca could've also just as easily won this match 5-0. It goes both ways.
 

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I'd definitely not say this tie is over yet. Liverpool will be up for it at Anfield and if they get an early goal, anything is possible as we've seen from all the comebacks this season. I also don't get this confidence of Barca scoring at Anfield? They've scored something like 2 away Knockout goals in the CL in the last 2-3 years and Anfield is probably the toughest place they'll be visiting in that period. The one good thing for them is that Liverpool will be on the attack so they'll have chances on the counter so you'd hope Suarez/Dembele aren't as wasteful as today.
Roma was poor tactics last year but in other ties, the away team didn't to chase the game the way Barca had to in those away legs. Barca could've scored 5 today and this is with Pool trying to concede any goals. At Anfield they're gonna push forward. They have zero answer for Alba.

Pool may win the game at Anfield, but hard not to feel confident Barca will get a goal or two. Give them a bit of daylight and they'll kill you. Barca are still undefeated in UCL this season.
 

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So Barcelona’s last home defeat in the CL was against Bayern in 2013...six years ago.
They've been getting out early for a couple of years. That plays a part as well, like one could say they haven't lost a semifinal in x years, while they haven't been to one for 3 years.
 

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Suarez celebrating and trying to get players sent off every 5 minutes shows what a classy act he is :lol::lol::lol:

The fact he celebrated made it all the more amusing.
Why the feck shouldn't he celebrate, he doesn't owe Liverpool diddly squat!

English fans are too fecking precious.
 

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They've been getting out early for a couple of years. That plays a part as well, like one could say they haven't lost a semifinal in x years, while they haven't been to one for 3 years.
They've played TONS of home games over those six years. Adding 1 or two extra home games because they didn't make the SF isn't a huge difference. Their issue has always been away form not home form
 

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Valverde is an excellent reactive tactician. He's great at analysing a game vs. an opponent and then the next time creating an approach that deals with it better. Betis game 1 and 2, as well as Madrid game 1 and 2, are examples of that. I know people are expecting much of the same, if not worse, at Anfield, but some are going to be surprised how Valverde improves Barca's build-up vs Liverpool's press.
I think the change he made by putting Semedo at RB and Sergi Roberto in midfield, made Barca more stable defensively.
 

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Why the feck shouldn't he celebrate, he doesn't owe Liverpool diddly squat!

English fans are too fecking precious.
Well Liverpool made a fool of themselves after the Evra incident with fans coming up with in-depth analysis of how certain words are used in certain cultures. Perhaps they might have expected a little fondness from their old love in return? The same way Ronaldo apologized when he scored against Sporting and United (as have many other players for other clubs)?

They are just looking for a little love, mate.
 

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It's actually more common than you'd imagine. Most teams, like you guys, just don't take your chances.
Yes exactly which is why many of us felt Livepool had a good chance. Becuase teams do create chances there these days and one would expect Salah to be better than those mid table La Liga sides.

Which brings me on this result.

fecking yes!!!! Now you better be solid in the second let Barcelona. Great, great result.
 

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Well Liverpool made a fool of themselves after the Evra incident with fans coming up with in-depth analysis of how certain words are used in certain cultures. Perhaps they might have expected a little fondness from their old love in return? The same way Ronaldo apologized when he scored against Sporting and United (as have many other players for other clubs)?

They are just looking for a little love, mate.
That's on point. Ronaldo and Suarez are idolized by many fans of their respective former clubs without realizing that both are highly self-centered individuals who have zero fecks to give about United and Liverpool.

Ronaldo atleast, is open and honest about his selfishness though.
 

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I did.

English teams are incredibly overhyped. No CL win in at least 8 years and counting likely now.

Messi/Ronaldo led teams have won 8 out of the past 11 CL's (likely to be 9 out of 12), every time an English side faces Messi or Ronaldo they fall flat on their arses.
I think a lot of that speaks to how good they are and how they can pick and choose their games better. I think City have been by far the best team over the last two seasons and they’ve only lost to English sides.

I think English teams are fine but when you have two of the best players ever surrounded by talent then it’s hard to beat them.
 

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I don't think Liverpool did much wrong in the game, except for not taking their chances. They created a lot, pinned Barca in their own end for very long stretches and had them scrambling trying to defend out of desperation at times. How many teams can say they went to Nou Camp and out possessed Barca? For a lot of the game Barca were struggling to string 2 passes together. But all that means nothing if you don't take your chances and make them count. On the other hand a few moments of brilliance from Suarez and Messi were a treat and it's tough to fault anybody on those goals, sometimes you gotta tip your hat. It's tough too be critical of Liverpool on the night, they really showed up and gave a great effort. It's not a lot they could do better..except score of course ;)
 
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I think people don't understand that barca went out to play this way against Liverpool. Do you honestly think that Liverpool weren't given that much possession as Barça laid deep in their half waiting? This is also why Vidal and Coutinho were playing rather than alena/Arthur. Dembele would have started ahead of coutinho if he was match fit...
 

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So looks like I was right.

The game called out for a goal from Mane or Salah. Usually Mane pulls through. Salah almost never does. Time and time again when everything is going against you, Salah disappears. Yes, he might score the second goal in an important game or something like that but rarely he does it when things are going against you. Ofcourse you'll hear nothing about it until he scores a deflected shot from a goalkeeper clanger and he's back to world class again.

Liverpool not scoring any away goals killed this tie.
It's going to be Barcelona - Ajax in the final.
You did get it right and im delighted you did.
Just wish Dembele hadn't been so shocking in the last mins as 4-0 would have been beyond even a freak night.
But on the other hand glad they didn't make it 3-1 as that could have been a huge game changer.