Champions League Semi Finals (30th April - 8th May)

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That free kick was just unreal. Top corner from so far.

Also I think wall placement was wrong. Don't think ball went above the wall, it went next to defender. Anyways Barca should have scored few more, at least 1 more that Dembele messed up in the last second.
 

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That free kick was just unreal. Top corner from so far.

Also I think wall placement was wrong. Don't think ball went above the wall, it went next to defender. Anyways Barca should have scored few more, at least 1 more that Dembele messed up in the last second.
Rashford would have knuckle-balled it into space from that distance. It's amazing how much power he gets from a side foot shot.
 

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Rashford would have knuckle-balled it into space from that distance. It's amazing how much power he gets from a side foot shot.
Wish fans shut up moaning about Manutd and players when watching other teams.
 

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Watched the game in a pub full of Pool fans including the bar staff in Dublin. What a night! Man but they are deluded.The goon of a barman was ‘quite confident ‘ of a score draw and a comfy 2 or 3 goal win at Anfield against a Barca team that even United caused problems for.Messi he told me was overrated as fcuk.
He looked sick when the overrated one stuck the 3rd in the Scousers net.
By closing time he had recovered and still thinks they can make the final as Barca will wilt at Anfield.
Laughed my ass off all the way home.
On a famous European night at anfield.
Hope barce score in the first five to leave it an absolute impossible mission
 

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Well Liverpool made a fool of themselves after the Evra incident with fans coming up with in-depth analysis of how certain words are used in certain cultures. Perhaps they might have expected a little fondness from their old love in return? The same way Ronaldo apologized when he scored against Sporting and United (as have many other players for other clubs)?

They are just looking for a little love, mate.
It's not the same, Ronaldo is portuguese and Sporting gave him his first break at being a pro.
 

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I think a lot of that speaks to how good they are and how they can pick and choose their games better. I think City have been by far the best team over the last two seasons and they’ve only lost to English sides.

I think English teams are fine but when you have two of the best players ever surrounded by talent then it’s hard to beat them.
What the actual feck are you on about? In Europe City have lost against Shakhtar, Basel, Liverpool (x2) Lyon and Tottenham. And City were twatted at quarterfinals both seasons, yet they have been by far the best team? :houllier:

Who cares if they went out to English sides, how does that even matter? Fact is they weren't good enough to progress, they got dumped. They couldn't even make the semis, but they are somehow better than Real that actually won the CL? Better than Barcelona that won La Liga both seasons? The English media have really done a number on you.
 

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Wish fans shut up moaning about Manutd and players when watching other teams.
Why, what do you expect them to do? When you watch other teams actually performing doesn't it bring into sharp focus just how far off we are? I know it's depressing, but it's the natural thing to do.
 

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Why, what do you expect them to do? When you watch other teams actually performing doesn't it bring into sharp focus just how far off we are? I know it's depressing, but it's the natural thing to do.
No, it's not natural. Just enjoy the football and moan about players in their thread. Not every game and every player should be about ManUtd. Obviously everyone knows the amount of the work needed for ManUtd, as it is players performance thread is depressing to read along with Solskjaer's. No need to spread that shit to every thread.
 

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It's not the same, Ronaldo is portuguese and Sporting gave him his first break at being a pro.
He also didn't celebrate against United though, which I think is the main point.
 

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Barcelona are the best Team in Europe this season hands down and they have inform Messi. Inform Messi cant be beaten.

What people need to understand is, you need luck to win the CL. If Mane and Salah didn't miss the sitters, the situation would be completely different. Liverpool played well but Messi is well Messi. No coach can do anything about it
 
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Why the feck shouldn't he celebrate, he doesn't owe Liverpool diddly squat!

English fans are too fecking precious.
Thankfully not English to begin with but anyway.

There is the small fact of Liverpool making absolute fools of themselves as a club on his behalf defending him over racially abusing Evra but thats their own fault for being stupid. Plus not like that counted to him when he enginerred the move to Barca to begin with.

My point being all the deluded Liverpool fans who in the build up couldnt grasp the notion that Suarez doesnt feel the same for them as they do for him and believed he wouldnt even show up against them due to his deep love for the club had the idea thrown out the window pretty quickly. Seeing their reactions to him celebrating was brilliant. Utter disbelief. :lol::lol::lol:
 

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The good news is that Messi has scored more goals vs the EPL top six teams than anyone actually playing in the Premier League itself.:lol:

What kind of stat is that?!
Except for the fact that is just another internet myth perpetuated by the Messi brigade.

One quick check tells you that Aguero has far for goals than Messi against the top 6, even Vardy has more.
 

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Except for the fact that is just another internet myth perpetuated by the Messi brigade.

One quick check tells you that Aguero has far for goals than Messi against the top 6, even Vardy has more.
The comparison would be better if number of games are taken into account
 

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The comparison would be better if number of games are taken into account
Messi's record against English clubs is very impressive, I don't think anyone will deny that.

But it's just getting to Trumpian levels with his fans making up stats like "he has more goals against English top 6 than any other player" and repeating them again and again.
 

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Messi's record against English clubs is very impressive, I don't think anyone will deny that.

But it's just getting to Trumpian levels with his fans making up stats like "he has more goals against English top 6 than any other player" and repeating them again and again.
I agree with that. It's one thing to be a fan of a player but another to fabricate stuff.

but then it wouldn't be a particularly noteworthy stat
How is that ? It would show that his record is even better than it seems.
 
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Seems like this side of the final has been decided. Still don’t get why there were people here claiming Liverpool would wipe the floor with Barcelona in Camp Nou.

There’s been some wiping though.
 

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Thankfully not English to begin with but anyway.

There is the small fact of Liverpool making absolute fools of themselves as a club on his behalf defending him over racially abusing Evra but thats their own fault for being stupid. Plus not like that counted to him when he enginerred the move to Barca to begin with.

My point being all the deluded Liverpool fans who in the build up couldnt grasp the notion that Suarez doesnt feel the same for them as they do for him and believed he wouldnt even show up against them due to his deep love for the club had the idea thrown out the window pretty quickly. Seeing their reactions to him celebrating was brilliant. Utter disbelief. :lol::lol::lol:
Too right.I remember one RAWK poster defending Suarez in emotive terms and calling him “A poster boy for the city of Liverpool”.
You could feel their pain last night when he celebrated.
 

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Liverpool score did not reflect the match fairly. But the same could be said for the Spurs match against Ajax.

As a Liverpool fan, I would have expected a little bit more clarity, focus and precision in their game. They gave away good opportunities because of poor crossing or passing in the final third. Other than that Liverpool had a great game ( You can not control Messi, especially since Suarez had such a great game.)
 

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Liverpool score did not reflect the match fairly. But the same could be said for the Spurs match against Ajax.

As a Liverpool fan, I would have expected a little bit more clarity, focus and precision in their game. They gave away good opportunities because of poor crossing or passing in the final third. Other than that Liverpool had a great game ( You can not control Messi, especially since Suarez had such a great game.)
Liverpool played much better than Spurs did in the first match but could have got beaten 4-0 in the end and Spurs also could easily have been beaten by the same score but somehow are still in the tie. I have a good feeling about the game in Amsterdam (I could be deluded) and think we will get through though somewhat luckily. Liverpool will score at Anfield but I cant see Barcelona not scoring either so that tie is probably done.
 

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Barcelona Tie definitely not over. Going to Anfield will be very difficult, look what happened against Roma last year. Barcelona need to gain control in the game keep their composure, quieten the crowd and score the first goal. That will make it very hard for Liverpool.

Playing on the counter attack doesn't come naturally for Barcelona, they need a very high level of psychological strength to get through. At least they can make 11 changes this weekend though and be fresh physically for the second leg.
 

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Barcelona Tie definitely not over. Going to Anfield will be very difficult, look what happened against Roma last year. Barcelona need to gain control in the game keep their composure, quieten the crowd and score the first goal. That will make it very hard for Liverpool.

Playing on the counter attack doesn't come naturally for Barcelona, they need a very high level of psychological strength to get through. At least they can make 11 changes this weekend though and be fresh physically for the second leg.
You're right but now that Liverpool need to score 3 goals they can't triple mark Messi whenever he has the ball and eventually Messi will find space to create havoc.
 

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Barcelona Tie definitely not over. Going to Anfield will be very difficult, look what happened against Roma last year. Barcelona need to gain control in the game keep their composure, quieten the crowd and score the first goal. That will make it very hard for Liverpool.

Playing on the counter attack doesn't come naturally for Barcelona, they need a very high level of psychological strength to get through. At least they can make 11 changes this weekend though and be fresh physically for the second leg.
I really think people in this thread doesn't understand that Barcelona is playing counter attack this year, and it's on purpose. I'm not happy with it as FC Barcelona supporter, I'd like to keep the the legacy of Cruyff, but first Luis Enrique and now Valverde, understood that the players Barcelona has are not good enough at this point time to win while dominating the opponent all the time. Because of that, Valverde decided to let the opponents feel that they are being superior, which means having 2-3 real occasions plus some very easy shots. He does that because he knows he has Piqué, Lenglet and Ter Stegen at a superlative level, which means that this superiority doesn't get reflected to the score.

Meanwhile he has Messi and other top quality players in the other side with much more space as they would have in possession of the ball. And with Messi they need half of the shots/space/errors or less than any other player in the world to score, so the tactic is a win-win and sometimes it feels like "luck" by the opponents but the fact is Barcelona didn't lose a single game since January. And most of the defeats this year were irrelevant matches.

FC Barcelona is still able to play with the ball and "dominate" the matches, with Arthur in the field there is an instant transformation, but in general the players are not able to do it with the speed and precision that Xavi-Iniesta had in the past, so with top-quality defensive systems Valverde decided that it's not what he wants anymore. I hope next year with De Jong and someone else this can be improved, but for now giving initiative to the opponent in certain moments of the match, is the most effective strategy when you have Messi/Dembelé/Suárez/Piqué/Ter Stegen in your team.

And I would like to add that people keeps using the defeat against Roma as an example of how weak Barcelona can be. Please stop with that, Roma beat Barcelona because they started with their minds out of the field since minute 1 and Valverde made a big tactic mistake enabling that mentality. He prepared a match to just spend time and do nothing, no counters, no attack nothing and players felt it, also player were overloaded because Valverde was using the same 11 in the league forever. Nobody, Roma or anyone else, can beat Barcelona by 3 goals the way Roma did (they didn't even need luck or spectacular performance but some player) if the players are connected to the game. I'm not saying Liverpool can't beat 3-0, but they will need to play far much better than Roma this year to get even close.
 

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Had Salah scored that sitter I'd actually see us favorites for the 2nd leg with an away goal in the bag, shit happens.

Pretty much looks like our CL journey has ended, but at least we gave them a really good game at Nou camp, esp in the second half. I just hope we teach em a lesson or two at Anfield.
 

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Woke up this morning feeling fine, there's something Messi on my mind...
Met this team from Spain and they told me they would...
Something tells me I'm onto something good.....

I watched it close and I held my hands. I knew this was not just a one night stand... I asked if I could see them next week and they told me I could...
Something tells I'm onto something good!
 

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Had Salah scored that sitter I'd actually see us favorites for the 2nd leg with an away goal in the bag, shit happens.

Pretty much looks like our CL journey has ended, but at least we gave them a really good game at Nou camp, esp in the second half. I just hope we teach em a lesson or two at Anfield.
Hate to admit it but a Euro Night at Anfield... am not convinced its all over yet.
 

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For all this talk about our shitness, we were beaten by 3 long-range goals, 2 of which were massive blunders (Young, De Gea respectively). Esp. the second one which is, to date, the worst goal David has ever conceded.

Liverpool were beaten by great moves (apart from the FK) which penetrated their lines. Could've ended 0-5 easily near the end.

I'm not saying we were better than Liverpool at the Nou Camp, far from it, but I don't get where are 'we gave them a good game' Liverpool supporters coming from.

On a sidenote, that free-kick from Messi... Unreal. The best player hands down right now.
 

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My point being all the deluded Liverpool fans who in the build up couldnt grasp the notion that Suarez doesnt feel the same for them as they do for him and believed he wouldnt even show up against them due to his deep love for the club had the idea thrown out the window pretty quickly.
Bull.. Where did you see the fans who thought this? In your mind?
 

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For all this talk about our shitness, we were beaten by 3 long-range goals, 2 of which were massive blunders (Young, De Gea respectively). Esp. the second one which is, to date, the worst goal David has ever conceded.

Liverpool were beaten by great moves (apart from the FK) which penetrated their lines. Could've ended 0-5 easily near the end.

I'm not saying we were better than Liverpool at the Nou Camp, far from it, but I don't get where are 'we gave them a good game' Liverpool supporters coming from.

On a sidenote, that free-kick from Messi... Unreal. The best player hands down right now.
In fairness, the 2nd goal was against the run of play. Barcelona had dominated Barcelona up till that point, were playing well, had created good chances and missed a couple of sitters too. Then Barcelona scored the 2nd and Liverpool either collapsed a bit mentally or they decided to go all out, can't quite decide. And after that, Barcelona were cutting through them at will and really should have ended up scoring more than the 3 they did in the end and would have done if Dembele was competent.

Either way, I think Barcelona have this in the bag now. Yep I'm sure Liverpool will launch at them in the 2nd leg and may even get an early goal or two. But over 90 minutes, I don't see Barcelona failing to score and they're not conceding 5 imo.
 

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Why? Are you convinced that we play like or half like these teams? Are we creating chances? Shots on targets? Play football?
No, but the game has nothing to with Manutd and all the discussion and moaning is done in relevant threads already.

Everyone knows Barca and Liverpool are levels above us at the moment, we don't need this semi finals to confirm that. It's pointless to bring ManUtd here when you have such a good game going on.
 

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In fairness, the 2nd goal was against the run of play. Barcelona had dominated Barcelona up till that point, were playing well, had created good chances and missed a couple of sitters too. Then Barcelona scored the 2nd and Liverpool either collapsed a bit mentally or they decided to go all out, can't quite decide. And after that, Barcelona were cutting through them at will and really should have ended up scoring more than the 3 they did in the end and would have done if Dembele was competent.

Either way, I think Barcelona have this in the bag now. Yep I'm sure Liverpool will launch at them in the 2nd leg and may even get an early goal or two. But over 90 minutes, I don't see Barcelona failing to score and they're not conceding 5 imo.
The first goal we conceded was totally against the run of play and the second was a freak. We were doing well up to this point. We had one period of domination while Liverpool had two. That's why they left a better impression than us.
 

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In fairness, the 2nd goal was against the run of play. Barcelona had dominated Barcelona up till that point, were playing well, had created good chances and missed a couple of sitters too. Then Barcelona scored the 2nd and Liverpool either collapsed a bit mentally or they decided to go all out, can't quite decide. And after that, Barcelona were cutting through them at will and really should have ended up scoring more than the 3 they did in the end and would have done if Dembele was competent.

Either way, I think Barcelona have this in the bag now. Yep I'm sure Liverpool will launch at them in the 2nd leg and may even get an early goal or two. But over 90 minutes, I don't see Barcelona failing to score and they're not conceding 5 imo.
“Against the run of play”

Ever heard of counter attacking? Been popular since the 60s with Helenio Hererra’s Inter. Italians and European sides have been mugging British sides ever since. Lost count of the ties United “dominated” teams that drew or beat us 0-1 at OT then cruised in their home tie. Even worked for Cloughies Notts Forest.

Who knew?
 

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Brilliant first goal by Suarez, unstoppable and from nothing really. The 2nd Barca goal also should been Suarez but after it hit the bar the Liverpool players are standing there gawking. Had they followed it up with any kind of professionalism it would have stayed 1-0. The third goal was one of the best free kicks Ive ever seen. Absolutely perfect. However Suarez conned the ref into that free kick with that joke of a jump on the Liverpool defender. Liverpool had so many great chances and they just bottled them all.
 

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Still can’t believe that Salah miss. :lol: totally changes the game/tie if he buries it.