Speaking locally, congress also losing massive ground in Karnataka. That state government will fall soon.
MP in a similar situation.
Rajasthan truly laughable
MP in a similar situation.
Rajasthan truly laughable
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Rahul Gandhi needs to take responsiblity and resign from his post as the Congress Party President.
Indeed.
It is beyond the opposition really, people can blame the opposition as much as they like but no one can make much of a difference. Fact is that this is what India is now and left needs to sadly accept the reality of new India . Do you really think that a non Gandhi leader can change this result for Congress ? Look at the kind of candidates winning , the message is clear and it is that we will vote for Modi in the national elections and who is there in my constituency is irrelevant
It's become a joke now. Pragya is going to win of all people. Logic and rationale has gone down the toilet. No doubt the race becoming presidential is a major influencing factor, however it appears people are almost inhibreated by the 'personality' of the man, and have no interest whatsoever in the drawbacks of some of the ideas that he and his party/backing mechanism represent. Its somewhat like trump and people not caring about the racism, sexist etc But with people being much more in love here
She is contesting against the most corrupt and defamed leader in the state and country .People are not fool like opposition treats them to be.
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Your living in a la la land if you think digvijay fellow could win.
I suppose your right. In the grounded reality, the better choice is a terror accused extremist right-wing loon.
Who do you think should take over? The culture of Congress since IG (1971, after the first split) has been to suppress regional leaders. The ones that they had in the recent past (Sheila Dikshit, Siddaramaiah, Ashok Chavan, YSR, Gehlot, Digvijay, Gogoi - all multiple term CMs) have now faced massive defeats in their home states, some have personally lost their own seats, and YSR is dead and his son hates Sonia/Rahul. The only one unscathed is Amarinder, if his appearance and age means anything he is due a heart attack sometime soon. And even he was out of power for 10 years.
That party is intertwined with the family, they will take each other down together.
There are a handful of seats in MH (Nanded, Akola from the few I checked) where a tie-up with Prakash Ambedkar would have helped. Maybe 1-2 in Delhi.
The airstrike's importance cannot be overstated. Not just did Modi's popularity go through the roof, Sena, AGP and JDU which had all been sulking suddenly agreed to seat-sharing. These alliances were worth at least 35-40 seats for the NDA (seats of those 3 parties are about 32, plus a few more I'm guessing where BJP benefited).
The other big stories are the total collapse in Karnataka and the continued strength of BJP in UP, over-performing everyone's expectations I think.
Before the election, I checked Bhopal demographics: it was something like, Dalit - 14%, Muslim- 28%. Apart from 1% Christians, the rest are caste Hindus and Jains.
What is the percentage right how? Pragya 56% Digvijay 41%. Elections are sometimes very mundane and predictable... (and yes, not all peolpe of one community vote one way, but the few defections seem to have canceled out)
First, regarding airstrikes it helped BJP but not with alliances. SS for example was always going to go with BJP, the arithmetic in Maha does not support them going alone in any form.
I don't know how Congress will be revived other than winning as a default party again in some states. But that is no reason to keep going on with a failed leader. It is clear that urban voters will no longer vote on the basis of your surname so the sycophancy has to stop.
Genocide attempt accused is CM of that state I guess.
Maybe you should be sure instead of guessing.
Regardless, you're only proving me right then.
Majority of these voters would vote for Modi and BJP irrespective of who the Congress president is
Again no excuse to not try to reform n fight better. Congress only strategy was to field Priyanka. Trump card etc. It is clear Rahul will never win head to head with Modi so why persist with him as face of your campaign ?
NDA winning the national elections was kinda sorta foregone conclusion- the margin of BJP's victory comes as a surprise though. They again do not need anyone to form the govt.
NDA and some friendly parties together are heading for a 2/3rds majority.
Another surprise of the day has been Jagan Reddy wining the AP assembly elections. Anecdotal evidence but a lot of people say that the dude is bad and possibly the most corrupt person in Indian politics (legacy of his father of course).
For all the flying around that CBN did, I think he's going to get a whole lot of rest over the next 5 years.
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Also Naveen Patnaik heading for a 5th straight term. Guess there is really no opposition in the state. Hopefully it will not go the WB/Jyothi Basu route.
NDA and some friendly parties together are heading for a 2/3rds majority.
Another surprise of the day has been Jagan Reddy wining the AP assembly elections. Anecdotal evidence but a lot of people say that the dude is bad and possibly the most corrupt person in Indian politics (legacy of his father of course).
For all the flying around that CBN did, I think he's going to get a whole lot of rest over the next 5 years.
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Also Naveen Patnaik heading for a 5th straight term. Guess there is really no opposition in the state. Hopefully it will not go the WB/Jyothi Basu route.
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I think this was in-line with expectations (maybe not the size of the win). His father is still popular and he seems to be living off that name totally (even named his party with those initials).
Has Naidu ever won re-election?
Shiv Sena workers were not willing for the alliance at all, and Uddhav had to decide between appeasing sitting ministers or his MLAs and shakha workers. The strike changed all that. He stopped taking some peoples' calls after that when he made up his mind.
In 2014 assembly, they fought separately, and BJP fell *just* short of a majority, and needed SS support from outside.
I also don't see a way back for Congress, unless the 3 new CMs perform some miracle. The way BJP built up Modi since about 2007 has been patient - media campaigns, online, etc they transformed his image. It took about 5 years (2012-13), before the effects were felt. And it probably happened then because of Anna Hazare etc discrediting UPA and Modi emerging as the clean alternative. When has Congress ever done a thing like that, and what do they have to work with? I don't see it.
There is a big difference between Orissa assembly polls right now (28 out of 150 for BJP) and lok sabha (7 out of 21). But the upcoming state elections should not show a big difference:
a. in MH if the alliance holds it will be a massive and easy win. Fadnavis has worked very hard to keep the alliance going, and is not personally unpopular IMO.
b. Haryana according to reports there was a consolidation of non-Jats agianst Jats (who themselves are split between Cong and others). Even if Khattar is unpopular (as some reports suggested), the maths should carry him through.
c. Delhi I have no idea at all, not read much either.
d. Bihar - sweep for NDA is expected based on the maths and having the most popular state and national leader.
So there are no immediate prospects for Congress consolidating in the states, and in fact they might well lost Karnataka soon.
Yeah!! One of my teams win. Arsenal also winning the EL will make this a great week for me.
Did BJP and Sena fight all seats in last assembly elections? Don't remember that. Shah worked overtime to bring Sena on board IIRC.
Congress is already third in Karnataka. The Hodge pledge govt will fall within 6 months. MP one can too.
Congress is already third in Karnataka. The Hodge pledge govt will fall within 6 months. MP one can too.
Yes, all seats against each other (in many they were 1-2).
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One side has Amit Shah/Mitch McConnell, the other has a cancer patient and her son/Chuck Schumer. There is no contest.
And unlike Mitch, Shah can work with a genuinely popular leader.
Btw is Amethi actually going?
The only way dear leader ever goes down is if and when RSS pull the plug on him.
Actually hope they don't though, because we might then have Yogi coming in
Actually hope they don't though, because we might then have Yogi coming in
9K gap, Baba will make it up but embarrassing anyway
Hey guys, really really long time. How is everyone? All good? 
Hey guys, really really long time. How is everyone? All good?
I was just reading a generic form of both Congress and BJP manifestos on the BBC earlier today.
Any of you Indians get the impression that BJPs manifesto is though quite full of bold promises, but ultimately unquantifiable? Quite a bit like Tory manifestos here in the UK.
Any of you Indians get the impression that BJPs manifesto is though quite full of bold promises, but ultimately unquantifiable? Quite a bit like Tory manifestos here in the UK.
He won't.
Hey guys, really really long time. How is everyone? All good?
He won by more than 100,000 votes last time. Can't see that kind of reversal. The margin at best would be reduced to 20-30k
Could someone tell me when/if we can expect an NDA majority in the Rajya Sabha as well? Is that something that could happen within this upcoming term?
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Then BjP will be there for 5 more years. Shouting chowkidar chor hai and other crap is not a sign of a leader. I am glad he lost. Guys like him are egomaniac who think people are fools and they will vote for me no matter what I say.
Margin of all BJP candidates in Gujarat now 100000+ votes. Sirf jeetege nahi, keh ke lenge.
What is likely to be the consequences of the NDA reaching a 2/3s majority? Major constitutional changes?
Don't think it can happen unless BJP forms Govt at WB and gets support from likes of YSR. They need to defend Maha too.
Lok Sabha alone can't do that. BJP does not have majority in Rajya Sabha (equivalent to Senate in US) so only way they can push through a constitutional change is by calling for joint house session. They did that once in 1999-2004 stint to pass an anti terror law but don't see them taking that kind of adventure this time. Basically they don't need to. Keeping such issues (like special status to Kashmir) alive is better for them.
Will be interesting to see how Rajya Sabha shapes up in the coming years
Those promises don't matter when the population is voting on religious lines. They made similar promises back in 2014 which still remain unfulfilled and no one talks about those anymore.
Really? Way off reality.