Nope. Don't want us to get relegated. The best way to handle Martial is to bring him after 65m like Jose did last season.
Anthony Martial as Number 9
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Leaving Sahcnez aside we have 3 strikers/wingers plus 1 assisting attacker - Lukaku / Rashford / Martial + Lingard. In most games we play either 433 or 4231, or occasionally a 532 if we park the bus. There are plenty of playing opportunities for the 3 strikers. Martial might moan about not able to play against top teams but if he performs, he will, if not, then stop moaning.
To answer your question - is Martial capable of playing the middle man among 433 - NO. Is Martial capable of playing the dual-striker role - YES as he did in Dec/Jan before injury.
As plenty of others have said, if he wants the no9 position, he needs to put the work in.
To make comparison, he started with great potential and actually outclassed Sterling. Looks Sterling now like walking on the moon and Martial still lumbers in the wood.
It’s Time to give him a chance at this position can’t be as bad as Rashford and Martial is a better finisher.
Why? Hed be another statue that only moves when he has the ball.
Gotta love the caf these days. Shit as lw make him a striker. Doesnt work as a striker his best position is on the wing with a shiny new teammates. If that doesnt work blame the manager. New manager new slate we're gonna see the new martial unleashed.
Replace martial with young jones valencia mata rashford
Replace martial with young jones valencia mata rashford
Classic problem of not knowing what we buy and where to play him. Need a winger bought a striker. Then we scratch our head why it doesnt work.
The Martial myth is over. He needs replacing. The end.
Does anybody see this happening next season? Looks like we're open to lukaku leaving with no solid links to strikers. Not sure I can ever forgive some of his performances this season but he's a better option than rashford
If he stays and Lukaku goes may aswell try it. If I recall the few games he played at the top of the attack when he first signed his hold up and link play was pretty nice, I remember the Liverpool game in particular
Last roll of the dice, there you go main man, lead the attack. If that doesn't get him back on track then curtains
Last roll of the dice, there you go main man, lead the attack. If that doesn't get him back on track then curtains
I think he would be better than Rashford on striker position. But we will never know i guess
I've always said this - he's much better centrally than on the wing.
On that left wing he's quite predictable. I think Rashford plays better there (a bit faster and better crosser of the ball)
On that left wing he's quite predictable. I think Rashford plays better there (a bit faster and better crosser of the ball)
Rashford - Martial - Greenwood
Martial will make Rashford & Greenwood play similar to how David Villa & Pedro played. Obviously not relating them to those players but they have a similar style of playing.
Martial can hold on to the ball and bring these players in to play. Rashford has a good Right foot coming from the left and Greenwood has a left foot coming in from the right.
Will work in a counter or a possession based team. I also think Martial will be better defensively attempting to press the back line than asking the guy to drop back & protect shaw because it doesn't interfere with his attacking positioning as much either.
Martial will make Rashford & Greenwood play similar to how David Villa & Pedro played. Obviously not relating them to those players but they have a similar style of playing.
Martial can hold on to the ball and bring these players in to play. Rashford has a good Right foot coming from the left and Greenwood has a left foot coming in from the right.
Will work in a counter or a possession based team. I also think Martial will be better defensively attempting to press the back line than asking the guy to drop back & protect shaw because it doesn't interfere with his attacking positioning as much either.
At Least Lukaku runs - Martial would be lazier than Berbatov
He also rarely runs in behind like Rashford so playing centrally may be Martial's best position at Utd. Like others have said, might as well try it and if that can't get him to break through, then it's pretty obvious he's not going to ever be the player everyone hoped he'd be.
Apparently Lukaku runs now
nothing after 15 mins on even the best of days and has a first touch of a defender. Then starts sulking and clapping just as much as Martial.That's an insult to Berbatov. He wasn't particularly lazy, he just wasn't in the same mould as Rooney and Tevez. He was actually great at coming back to defend corners.
Martial is genuinely lazy or too thick to understand off the ball movement. You'll get the same thing from him no matter where you put him. Attitude is his problem.
Haha
Not sure he has a position. Too profligate for 10. Too predictable and lazy for wing. Too lazy and wimpy for striker. Makes great cameos from the bench at times. Maybe just put him on the pitch and let him do whatever he feels like (scoring, scowling, sleeping, roaming).
But my true feelings is that we should sell him and do it quickly.
But my true feelings is that we should sell him and do it quickly.
Martial does run but he runs in a different way. A more economical calculated way. Running is not important upfront otherwise Rashford is the best striker in the world already. If you run in a intelligent way you'll be running less.
If he agreed to running off the ball then why not but if he wants to be lazy then nah
Martial likes the ball at his feet to get others in to play.
That's why he isn't good at making off the ball runs.
You play him in the centre as a pivot - you get a guy who will position himself to get the ball to feet and make short passes in to players around him before he makes the right run in to space.
That's why he isn't good at making off the ball runs.
You play him in the centre as a pivot - you get a guy who will position himself to get the ball to feet and make short passes in to players around him before he makes the right run in to space.
I would use Martial in a diamond formation rotating with Rashford:
Martial/Rashford - New Striker
CAM
The other attacking positions could be filled with players like Felix, Dybala, Fernandes, Havertz, Eriksen, Ziyech, Fekir, Maddison, James Rodriguez, Isco, Griezmann, Jovic, Piatek, Richarlison, etcCAM
The pro-British gang would never allow Martial to play centrally and displace Rashy.
The only way for Martial to play as 9 would be for another team.
The only way for Martial to play as 9 would be for another team.
I still have faith in Martial, but one of our biggest failures as a team is that our best finisher (and he is currently our best finisher) rarely even gets near the goal. He's shown his instincts to be sharp in there, but he takes less than 2 shots a game, and many of those are from outside the area (where the percentages are always lower). We either need to get him closer to the opposition's goal, or we need to play someone who does their best work out wide.
As a striker ? No way, the guy is too lethargic for that position. Not enough variety in his finishing anyway
Bit late to party on this.
Can it be for a different club???? If so, I’m all for it
Can it be for a different club???? If so, I’m all for it
Martial is a lazy player - take the likes of Suarez for example - never stops moving - when his team have the ball or not. He is constantly giving the oppo defenders dilemmas and proboems.
Martial - yeah he will pretty much be where ever he was the last time you saw him. Probably standing about
Is this going to be his post Jose excuse? A secret cabal of pro-British conspirators working against him.
He'd be perfect in the Firmino role. I doubt we'll see him there much though unfortunately.
He's not a striker, he's nothing like a striker. He can be quite a neat finisher in a very specific circumstances, and that's it. He doesn't work hard, bring others into play, make runs off the last man... What about him screams striker?!
I dunno, I just don't think he's very good. Maybe Ole can help him to realise his limited potential, but I can't see it myself. Nothing against the guy, but he's had a very unimpressive four(?!?) years with us now.. I don't see him as a starter next season.
I dunno, I just don't think he's very good. Maybe Ole can help him to realise his limited potential, but I can't see it myself. Nothing against the guy, but he's had a very unimpressive four(?!?) years with us now.. I don't see him as a starter next season.
Can't be that bloody perfect then..
This is not an excuse, it’s an observation of what is happening: Rashford is given chance after chance at number 9, and despite of atrocious form is never dropped. By now, I don’t see any way Martial will be given an opportunity at #9 while at this club.
He was a No.9 before Mourinho bring in a 35 years old to take the number off him.
Rashy is the golden boy and British media, manager etc isn't going to want to upset him. He takes all the set pieces, shoots from wherever he wants and has lots of power in the team already. I don't see way to accomadate two players without affecting one even if I would return him to LW/LF because he's more wasteful and play a supportive role instead but I don't see it to happen any time soon after we have already built his ego to be main man.
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He does that, no?
Rashford is clearly preferred. Although, if he persists with the diamond, there's room for both.
Both were in the bottom five attackers for average distance covered..
So there ain't a lot in it.
And the 9th player sold is.....