GodShaveTheQueen
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If the committee is kicked out, I am voting against @Physiocrat in all games
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You could have a poll for all games but there would be loads of options.Yeah if we have one mega thread and people can maybe vote in the thread rather than a poll? That can work.
But will need a game thread per gameweek.
The gratitude I get for trying to increase player numbers.If the committee is kicked out, I am voting against @Physiocrat in all games
The gratitude I get for trying to increase player numbers.
Puskas would never work as a lone striker
To my knowledge, we have never done any drafts without manager discussion.Have you done any other drafts recently with no managers involved in the discussion? If so, what has the feedback been like? I kind of like the idea, as an experiment if nothing else.
I presume neutrals can still discuss in the match threads.
Still at it, is he?@Moby has been practicing for it
I would've been up for this to be honest, if there's someone motivated enough to run it. Just do one or two rounds per week — and none of the committee stuff. I think it'll become boring otherwise, as we'll know the views of the committee after, say, 3 or 4 rounds and it will become repetitive.The FM thing is probably the ideal format for something like this, since it doesn't require any effort at all beyond the start-up phase.
You'd need new write-ups from the managers every round, though - if not it'd be a bit...odd. The charm of the league format is that you get to tweak the team slightly depending on the opposition. And there's a danger of any number of managers simply losing interest after a few rounds, especially if they keep losing (games, I mean).I would've been up for this to be honest, if there's someone motivated enough to run it. Just do one or two rounds per week — and none of the committee stuff. I think it'll become boring otherwise, as we'll know the views of the committee after, say, 3 or 4 rounds and it will become repetitive.
Yeah, obviously you'd have the substitutions, but I thin that it'll be obvious which teams are rated higher and without the changes inside the committee it'll be a bit predictableYou'd need new write-ups from the managers every round, though - if not it'd be a bit...odd. The charm of the league format is that you get to tweak the team slightly depending on the opposition. And there's a danger of any number of managers simply losing interest after a few rounds, especially if they keep losing (games, I mean).
Realistically, I think it'd work best as a version of the FM idea - that is, as something which just runs on automatically (almost) - in the background, threads going up with polls, minimum requirements on all involved.Yeah, obviously you'd have the substitutions, but I thin that it'll be obvious which teams are rated higher and without the changes inside the committee it'll be a bit predictable
Just a basic outline once a week. No more than a couple of lineswill I have to do a write-up and stuff?
Yeah FM would be miles better, but no one wants to run it so this was the closest I could get.I would've been up for this to be honest, if there's someone motivated enough to run it. Just do one or two rounds per week — and none of the committee stuff. I think it'll become boring otherwise, as we'll know the views of the committee after, say, 3 or 4 rounds and it will become repetitive.
It would become stale after a week or 2 with no injuries. 4 or 5 games in you'd know who had the best side.Realistically, I think it'd work best as a version of the FM idea - that is, as something which just runs on automatically (almost) - in the background, threads going up with polls, minimum requirements on all involved.
Managers could effectively drop out entirely without consequence, as a default write-up (player roles explained, if necessary, that sort of thing - very brief) + formation pic would always be available to whoever agrees to keep the thing updated.
Might allow managers to submit tweaks if they want to (but not required) - or not (but this really wouldn't mean much more work for the updater, just operate with strict deadlines for submissions, if they're not met, the default is posted).
As an experiment, I'd like to see it. Would be interesting to see how much of an interest was kept up - it could even turn a bit exciting towards the end if the race is tight.
Possibly, yes.It would become stale after a week or 2 with no injuries. 4 or 5 games in you'd know who had the best side.
FM was great for the managers but for me running it it took up so much time I was unable to complete the second season (much to @antohan dismay before he could win the CL )Think you need a format that allows you to run this thing in the background, as it were, if you're going to have a full league with something like twenty teams.
You need a format which requires a minimum of effort from everyone involved, really. Otherwise, after a few weeks, you'll start to see managers not being arsed to submit anything, etc.
The FM thing is probably the ideal format for something like this, since it doesn't require any effort at all beyond the start-up phase.
It's only 1 teamsheet a week with a couple of lines on your set up. Should take no more than 10 mins every week.Possibly, yes.
But it seems very unrealistic to keep a high maintenance draft running on for as long as it'd take to wrap up a full league.
If you want to do a league, you have to do it simple. Again, the FM concept in some form. Wouldn't generate high interest throughout, but that's not expected in the first place - it's just a bit of fun on the side.
I guess what I suspect is that a lengthy draft that requires constant commitment from the managers (even if it's not a lot of work, as such) is vulnerable to - well - managers dropping out, losing interest, etc. A lot of matches could end up being pointless/walkovers.It's only 1 teamsheet a week with a couple of lines on your set up. Should take no more than 10 mins every week.
Yeah, I guess the "no effort" part would be true only for the managers.FM was great for the managers but for me running it it took up so much time I was unable to complete the second season (much to @antohan dismay before he could win the CL )
I think ideally there would be 3-4 people with FM that could run the sim and pass along the save files so its not so much work for one person
A league is actually a format where the old "multiple scores" poll might make sense. Didn't work too well in regular drafts, but in a league it could. You'd also get GD.Given it's a league, are we having an option of a score of a draw?
That's a good idea, however we'd really have to go the committee route otherwise we'd have to do an individual match thread per game which would be crazy work over that time period. You could get people to vote by comment with scores instead but then you'd have to tally them all.A league is actually a format where the old "multiple scores" poll might make sense. Didn't work too well in regular drafts, but in a league it could. You'd also get GD.
Edit I'm talking about the model with poll options like:
0-0
1-0
0-1
etc.
Yeah draws will be an option.Given it's a league, are we having an option of a score of a draw?
just until we start another draft, 4 rounds for example and if another draft isnt close to starting like now then we can prolong the normal draft for few more rounds.Normal draft will take forever with 23 players each to pick. People will be bored senseless by the end
Let's stick to what I planned for the first 4 rounds. If no draft is close to starting then we'll open it up afterwards. Means a few of the GOATs should be blocked and make the transfer round interesting midway through.just until we start another draft, 4 rounds for example and if another draft isnt close to starting like now then we can prolong the normal draft for few more rounds.
So what you mean to say is, has @P-Nut produced the new Garrincha yet?Such a shame. All draft related questions and none about how his honeymoon went.
Can we draft the first 11 the normal way then use the other system for the last 10?Let's stick to what I planned for the first 4 rounds. If no draft is close to starting then we'll open it up afterwards. Means a few of the GOATs should be blocked and make the transfer round interesting midway through.