No that was the FIFA Ballon D'Or. The award is back with the journalists now.
Ballon D’or 2019: who will win it? (Alleged leak: Messi 1, Van Dijk 2, Salah 3).
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I said Van Dijk might win it, but he's not the best player in the world. Learn to read.This aged well.
...just wait for a bit more time for the results. Can’t wait to see your salty remarks when VVD wins it. Don’t say I didn’t tell you
Let’s just say, if Van Djik wins it this year, he will be more worthy winner than Modric winning it last year.
It'll be a shame if Messi doesn't win it, one of his best ever seasons. It'd do no harm breaking this habit of having to reward the Ballon D'or to a CL winner as well.
Because he couldn’t score ONE SINGLE GOAL at Anfield?
I honestly hope VVD wins it if only because I want our club to get one more up yours headed in their direction. If Pool winning the CL and almost the PL while playing brilliant footie then what the feck more does our club need to wake up.
Proof that Messi is just too good. The only player who gets teared apart for going in scoreless in a game.
No he doesn't. When did he become the best player in the world? I don't remember..
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When did Modric?
Van Dijk is the best CB in the world now. Why should a defender not get it?
Did you agree with Modric winning it?
Some people are just tired of Ronaldo or Messi winning it and try to push alternative choices.
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Messi by far even though he didn't win CL. Hope he does well in Copa and win it. This season CL final is one of the worst ever and no one deserve the ballon D'or from the finalist.
Van Dijk. Look at the transformation in that Liverpool defence. They were a calamity not too long ago. Such a classy player. He would deserve it.
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Modric did deserve it that season though. He had consistently ran the midfield for Madrid being a key force behind 3 successive CL's and dragging Croatia to a European final. His individual level was absurd.
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Should be Messi. Quite easily the best on the planet.
Regarding Van Dijk, what are the odds of Netherlands doing well in the UEFA nations league? I don’t really follow or even understand that tournament tbh.
You fell for the media narrative. Rewatch his WC KO stage games and take a closer look.
Pretty sure I remember him bossing it in midfield along with Rakitic. I don't remember his level dropping. I was very impressed with him that summer.
Well exactly - Croatia had multiple players showing up. Modric had a fine tournament, but it's not like he was head and shoulders above his teammates and dragged them to the final. Yet he got 99% of the attention.
Modric was important for Madrid, but Ronaldo was still clearly the #1 that year.
The timing when people started to push Modric was also odd, because he had better seasons for Real than 2017/18.
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I get the sentiment but Modric was the leader. That was always bound to happen. It wasn't just because of Croatia though, it was recognition of his achievements over the past years.
You think Ronaldo was the #1 for Madrid? I would disagree with that. I remember Ronaldo scoring the tap-ins but Modric was the one controlling the games. I would have Modric as the key influence over him in Madrids CL victories.
Thats just my personal preference though. I always prefer the clever ones who go unnoticed doing the 'real work' rather than the ones who show up to steal the limelight.
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It should go to Messi again since he is still the best player in the World. But, it might go to Van Dijk since they want to get cute with the award again. Winning the nations league would clinch it for Van Dijk.
Messi is the best attacking player in the world.
And also the best player in the World.
I doubt Woodward or the Glazers would shake things up because a Liverpool player wins the Ballon d'Or.
Did you really watch Modric play throughout the season? Madrid midfield has been quite poor in general, they loss the midfield battle against minor teams quite often, and Modric wasn't even anywhere near Real Madrid top 3 performer in majority of the season.
Modric has only been great for a few games, in WC group stages, and maybe had a good game in CL final.
I don't think he can even get into top 10 or top 20 this year, which says alot about his inconsistency.
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VVD over Messi would be absurd but Modric winning it last year was so who knows.
Modric was integral part of a team who just won their 3rd CL in a row and helped guide an unfancied Croatia to a World Cup final, why is that so shocking?
Messi/Ronaldo fanbois seem to assume the Ballon d'Or is simply a golden boot race. If that was the case Gerd Muller should have won about 10 of them in the 70s.
Messi should have made the top 3, but Modric was the right winner last year.
I also think Iniesta should have won it in 2010, Barca won the league, failed in the CL. Messi didn't even score a single goal in that WC, Iniesta scored the winner in the final.
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I can't see why VvD winning it would be 'absurd', he is quite simply the best defender in the world and has stood out in every big encounters I've seen him in as such. No one could get past him and he has transformed Liverpool into a team that can be confident when the ball is with the opposition because between him and Allison, they are very much a right pain in the ass to get past. He deserves a Ballon d'Or, but the award is a joke more often than not and it'll probably go to Messi again, who deserves it as well. If anyone wants to blame Messi for Barcelona's meltdown against Liverpool, you just need to watch the game with a clear perspective.
Now this final was a boring one to watch, but even then VvD stood out especially dealing with Son. At this point, it's a shock to me if anyone can get past him, which I didn't get to see this season. As a defender, you're always have to react to the opposition, it sorts of give the offense a slight advantage always as they make the first move, but he has managed to shut down pretty much everyone that has come at him. Now, I haven't watched him play every single game of his career, but the last time I can remember him being taken for a ride was against a 19 years old Martial when he was still at Southampton. I haven't seen him get beat like that ever again.
Now this final was a boring one to watch, but even then VvD stood out especially dealing with Son. At this point, it's a shock to me if anyone can get past him, which I didn't get to see this season. As a defender, you're always have to react to the opposition, it sorts of give the offense a slight advantage always as they make the first move, but he has managed to shut down pretty much everyone that has come at him. Now, I haven't watched him play every single game of his career, but the last time I can remember him being taken for a ride was against a 19 years old Martial when he was still at Southampton. I haven't seen him get beat like that ever again.
What an insanely dumb post when VVD himself says Messi should win it regardless:This aged well.
...just wait for a bit more time for the results. Can’t wait to see your salty remarks when VVD wins it. Don’t say I didn’t tell you
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/van...-ballon-d-or-despite-champions-league-triumph
Messi is light years ahead of anyone else, he deserves it
He conceded 3 goals on the first leg against Barca, he’s invincible.
Even he admits Messi deserves it and he’s right
Yup and Pool had 7 point lead before they bottled the league
This CL final was one of the worst ones in recent history
He's really at fault somewhat on the second, didn't react well to a bounce, that's about it. He didn't concede 3 goals, just like Messi didn't bottle it at Liverpool. They were both standouts despite the circumstances of the score.
Messi deserves it, but I'm sure you ask Messi and he would say the same about VvD; he would also be right. We just know the Ballon d'Or mostly only goes to attacking players so what's the point of even campaigning for it? Using his comments on Messi deserving it is kind of pointless as that's what they would all say about a nominee, even if they're competing against them for the prize.
Messi fanboys are like the Danaerys fanboys of footie.
How is that so? They were both important but not pivotal in their teams winning the CL.
Aside from that Modric captained feckin Croatia to WC final while VVD was a part of the team that came second in the EPL, which as an acomplishment means absolutely nothing.
Such hyperbole. Noone can get past him despite Barcelona hammering them 3-0 at the Nou Camp. They would have scored at Anfield too if Suarez put away that easy chance. City beat them in the crucial title battle at their ground and should have beaten them at Anfield too.
VVD has been excellent this season but he's simply not been at the genius level of Messi. The CL trophy and his team mates tearing Barcelona's back 4 is the only reason anyone is mentioning his name. World 11 sure. Balon Dor, madness.
How was Van Diyk not pivotal? He's been their best player in the UCL campaign in this season, Modric's performances were not very high last season compared to the previous ones, same goes for his World Cup performances. Captaining a team should not have any impact otherwise we'l have to see Henderson come third at the Balon D'Or.
Messi even if VDV would also deserve it. The game is about goals though so attackers will more than often win it
It would be a very big surprise if VVD doesn't win it. He's been the best player in the best team in Europe for the last 18 months, and just lead his team winning the main trophy. Unless he gets injured for the next season, the trophy is already his.
Van Dijk will win it. And it won't be undeserved.
Now am going in state of hibernation for a few years.
Now am going in state of hibernation for a few years.
Fair enough, I can see it being far more likely then. Will still get to split LIverpool/CL votes with a few others.