We are so fecked! (Knee-Jerk Overload)

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We have turned down the chance to sign Tielemens and are concentrating on Langstaff. It is ending badly, no doubt.
That's all based on rumors so I wouldn't get flustered yet.

We need to sign premier league proven and motivated players. My worry is that we keep too many players.
 

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That team has a 40% chance of a top 5 finish if it plays to its potential.

That team + realistic incomings has a 60%-70% chance. Because it would be better than Arsenal.

It might even be better than Chelsea.

Most teams are facing challenges.
Where are you getting your percentages from?? :lol::lol:
 

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The problem is with players leaving the starting 11 is barely getting better.

It’s like when Zlatan left (free transfer) we had to spend £80m on Lukaku who is arguably worse, the squad wasn’t better off and 80m of our budget was gone.

Herrera left for free so unless we get a freebie in (Rabiot?) it’s costing us minimum £50m to replace him and in all honesty will that re recruitment be a big step up?

Suddenly we’ve spent in the ballpark of £70m (with James) and our squad is barely any better from last year, realistically how much is left in the budget after this 70m? there won’t be much unless we sell Pogba and Lukaku which then brings on another huge task to replace them.
 

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Pogba’s jumping ship, clearly he can’t help us. I love him as a player, I’d like him to stay, but we have a lot of positions that need better options before Pogba can work for us, and he’s clearly not willing to stay and hope for that. As is his right. If he were a stronger leader with a better attitude, he’d help raisw the level. I’m not blaming things on him, just saying that clearly retaining him shouldn’t be our top priority.

Rashford is still young, and for all the whining about him, he’s got a solid return for us. Young shouldn’t be first choice, but he can slot in a number of positions and will always have the right attitude. I really don’t get why people want to kick these players out. They’re definitely good enough for the squad.
Young can do terribly in a number of positions. He's not good enough, not even as a squad player. Just as Gary Neville wasn't in 2011.
 

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So it is safe to write here what you really think without being abused? Great.

Yep, we are so fecked. I don't see any reason for optimism now. We have 2 world class players( DDG and Pogba) and they both want to leave. We have at least 10 average players who we don't want/can't sell. Our new transfer policy is laughable. We are buying players from bloody championship. And above everything, my opinion is that most important part of the squad is a coach. And we have a coach who is maybe the worst in PL. He will be fired this season without any question but it is another ruined season.
 

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I'm already past caring for next season. I just cant shake the feeling that the likes of young, matic, jones, smalling, lingard, fred, mctiminay will all be in out first 11 still.

We wont get top 6.
 

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Do you have any faith at all that those who have overseen the last 6yrs of abject failure have the ability to replace these players with others of equal/comparable/ better ability AND this correct attitude to bring us back to some kind of challenging position within the next few seasons?
Let's see what Ole and Mick do.
 

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I have a completely opposite view.

Due to our low net spend and poor performance last season I fully expect the club to invest heavily this summer, we share some similarities with Madrid in this regard.
we've net spent around 100M in average the last 4-5 years, I hope you're right. I perspnally wouldn't be surprised if we break even this season.
 

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The silver lining is that we might actually see some genuine change at the club if we sink any lower than last season, which has to be a distinct possibility.

There's no way Ed & the Glazers are getting away with blaming the manager & players this time.
 

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Genuinely believed this summer that we would have had a splurge similar to Madrid. Surely during last season and especially since Ole came in and there was talk of a new DOF etc that we would have had targets in place and signings lined up. Instead we are stood with hands in our pockets watching all the impressive players being picked up by other teams and our best players refusing to sign contracts and publicly stating they want to leave.

Shocking for this club it really is. Ran by complete amateurs from top to bottom. Can’t believe that after giving Liverpool fans stick for so long about how poor their club was run since the early 90’s that we’ve gone the exact same way.
 

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I’m hoping that, out of nowhere, like has happened years ago, we suddenly announce two or three top quality signings. Perhaps even someone world class and completely unexpected.

I need a lift cause reading these threads is killing me. Feeling pretty hopeless for next season.
 

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I have a completely opposite view.

Due to our low net spend and poor performance last season I fully expect the club to invest heavily this summer, we share some similarities with Madrid in this regard.
We share nothing with Madrid, they’ve been decisive and have signed some top talent, we’ve signed a 2nd rate winger, let’s hope the quality of the signings improves
 

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The silver lining is that we might actually see some genuine change at the club if we sink any lower than last season, which has to be a distinct possibility.

There's no way Ed & the Glazers are getting away with blaming the manager & players this time.
Yeah, I can see it getting ugly this season. To be fair it's 3 years overdue.
 

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We share nothing with Madrid, they’ve been decisive and have signed some top talent, we’ve signed a 2nd rate winger, let’s hope the quality of the signings improves
Whilst I agree that we are in a different league to Real, to write the kid off as 2nd rate without even seeing him for us yet is a joke.

Real signed the "Japanese Messi" ffs! Give over!
 

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Whilst I agree that we are in a different league to Real, to write the kid off as 2nd rate without even seeing him for us yet is a joke.

Real signed the "Japanese Messi" ffs! Give over!
I disagree, the little I’ve seen is more than enough to tell me he’ll never be good enough, I’d rather we saved the 15m to put towards the cost of an elite player
 

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I disagree, the little I’ve seen is more than enough to tell me he’ll never be good enough, I’d rather we saved the 15m to put towards the cost of an elite player
I highly doubt you've even seen him if I'm honest :lol:

Oh yeah, cause signing "Elite players" has worked so well for us in recent years.

Christ, what a strange comment!
 

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I honestly don't care if we do well next year. I just want something to actually change other than Woodward just rolling the dice or throwing a dart board at the wall to pick out next manager. Until we see some real change to how our club is run we're going to see the same tumescent shite every week followed by the players tweeting the footballing equivalent of "I'll clean my room tomorrow, promise".
 

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I highly doubt you've even seen him if I'm honest :lol:

Oh yeah, cause signing "Elite players" has worked so well for us in recent years.

Christ, what a strange comment!
I’ve watched him enough to form an opinion, and I’m talking about young elite players.
 

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I’ve watched him enough to form an opinion, and I’m talking about young elite players.
We've signed some of those too and they've also failed to set the world alight.

Shaw was considered one of the best young fullbacks not long ago, Martial won the FIFA Young player of the year in his debut season. Dalot is clearly a talented kid and other big clubs were sniffing around. Memphis, bad attitude... Zaha, not given a proper chance...

Need I go on?
 

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We've signed some of those too and they've also failed to set the world alight.

Shaw was considered one of the best young fullbacks not long ago, Martial won the FIFA Young player of the year in his debut season. Dalot is clearly a talented kid and other big clubs were sniffing around. Memphis, bad attitude... Zaha, not given a proper chance...

Need I go on?
Everyone of those players above is a better footballer than James, what makes you think a 2nd rate winger from the championship will do any better?
 

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Next season could be disastrous.

I'm not bothered about players leaving. I just never trust us to get the right ones in and for Woodward to actually look competent.
 

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I disagree, the little I’ve seen is more than enough to tell me he’ll never be good enough, I’d rather we saved the 15m to put towards the cost of an elite player
Think that's a bit harsh, but I also think it's a bit much to expect anything much from him early on, in an ideal world signings like this would just be a side note, and we'd maybe look to send them out on loan to help them progress, yet many have James down as stater for next season, which is ridiculous.
 

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Everyone of those players above is a better footballer than James, what makes you think a 2nd rate winger from the championship will do any better?
Yeah, cause Andrew Robertson who was relegated not once, but twice was still good enough for Liverpool and recently just picked up a Champions league winners medal and was arguably one of their best players last season...

Genuinely, do you realize how incredibly stupid your comments are? :houllier::lol:
 

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I disagree, the little I’ve seen is more than enough to tell me he’ll never be good enough, I’d rather we saved the 15m to put towards the cost of an elite player
Agree. People rave about his speed and one average cross. He is just one average/solid player. Nothing more
 

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United need to admire the liverpool model and spend next 3 years going throughout a transitional period
 

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Yeah, cause Andrew Robertson who was relegated not once, but twice was still good enough for Liverpool and recently just picked up a Champions league winners medal and was arguably one of their best players last season...

Genuinely, do you realize how incredibly stupid your comments are? :houllier::lol:
Oh, stop with that Robertson shit. On 1 Robertson come dozens players like Powell. Players bought under the radar who later failed.
 

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Yeah, cause Andrew Robertson who was relegated not once, but twice was still good enough for Liverpool and recently just picked up a Champions league winners medal and was arguably one of their best players last season...

Genuinely, do you realize how incredibly stupid your comments are? :houllier::lol:
I get it, he’s our shiny new signing and you probably haven’t seen him play at all, but when you do, you will see a bang average footballer that happens to be able to run fast in a straight line. We should be aiming higher
 

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Oh, stop with that Robertson shit. On 1 Robertson come dozens players like Powell. Players bought under the radar who later failed.
I get it, he’s our shiny new signing and you probably haven’t seen him play at all, but when you do, you will see a bang average footballer that happens to be able to run fast in a straight line. We should be aiming higher
No I haven't seen him and I'm honest about it, but I'm also mature enough to not post like a spoiled petulant child and will afford the kid time and see how he does before writing him off.

Both of you are standard twittah types who will run to social media if he turns out to be a class player and say he's world class by October and pretend you always rated the kid.

And Dele Alli, sure he has just a runners up medal now.

Vardy was a Sunday league player ffs and is now a Premier League winner.

Veratti played in Serie B FFS, By your incredibly stupid judgement that lower league automatically means shit he is as well...

Kante as well... He was in League 2.

So many shite players :houllier:

Just because we've bought from lower leagues doesn't mean they are automatically shite!

Really is some absolutely clueless, spoiled brats in our fan base.
 
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Genuinely believed this summer that we would have had a splurge similar to Madrid. Surely during last season and especially since Ole came in and there was talk of a new DOF etc that we would have had targets in place and signings lined up. Instead we are stood with hands in our pockets watching all the impressive players being picked up by other teams and our best players refusing to sign contracts and publicly stating they want to leave.

Shocking for this club it really is. Ran by complete amateurs from top to bottom. Can’t believe that after giving Liverpool fans stick for so long about how poor their club was run since the early 90’s that we’ve gone the exact same way.
What other teams? Other than Madrid hardly any club has made any transfers.
 

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No I haven't seen him and I'm honest about it, but I'm also mature enough to not post like a spoiled petulant child and will afford the kid time and see how he does before writing him off.

Both of you are standard twittah types who will run to social media if he turns out to be a class player and say he's world class by October and pretend you always rated the kid.

And Dele Alli, sure he has just a runners up medal now.

Vardy was a Sunday league player ffs and is now a Premier League winner. Just because we've bought from lower leagues doesn't mean they are automatically shite!

Veratti played in Serie B FFS!

Really is some absolutely clueless, spoiled brats in our fan base.
Not sure you are tbh, but you're entertaining non the less..
 
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Think that's a bit harsh, but I also think it's a bit much to expect anything much from him early on, in an ideal world signings like this would just be a side note, and we'd maybe look to send them out on loan to help them progress, yet many have James down as stater for next season, which is ridiculous.
I agree in principle but when has a 21 year old Championship level player ever taken a massive step in his development here since Fergie?

Everyone seems to be regressing or threading water.
 

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I get it, he’s our shiny new signing and you probably haven’t seen him play at all, but when you do, you will see a bang average footballer that happens to be able to run fast in a straight line. We should be aiming higher
You already know he'll never be good enough? Talk about giving players a chance. It's galactico signings or bust I guess.
 

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I can see us having an utter shite summer window and then losing our opening two games before going on to finish 7th and sacking Ole....
 

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What a fecking stupid premise for a thread.
 

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No I haven't seen him and I'm honest about it, but I'm also mature enough to not post like a spoiled petulant child and will afford the kid time and see how he does before writing him off.

Both of you are standard twittah types who will run to social media if he turns out to be a class player and say he's world class by October and pretend you always rated the kid.

And Dele Alli, sure he has just a runners up medal now.

Vardy was a Sunday league player ffs and is now a Premier League winner.

Veratti played in Serie B FFS, By your incredibly stupid judgement that lower league automatically means shit he is as well...

Kante as well... He was in League 2.

So many shite players :houllier:

Just because we've bought from lower leagues doesn't mean they are automatically shite!

Really is some absolutely clueless, spoiled brats in our fan base.
So you haven’t seen him play yet you form an opinion that he’s a good player, whilst telling others that have seen him their opinion is wrong? That literally makes no sense.

I have nothing against buying potential but that isn’t what we need right now, especially a LW, we don’t need another LW. And i didn’t hear James ever being touted as the next best thing all season. He was going to sign for Leeds in January for feck sake.