if that's what you think it's about... fine
Ole anger with Lingard
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I don't! Beckham was the benchmark of the younger players for me (along with the Nevilles) and Keano (Eric before him) for the older
Beckham was sold because he epitomised in SAFs eyes what fans now think of Lingard.....i.e. football not being his sole focus.
Not sure why it’s so difficult for some fans on here to admit that this is clearly the case with Lingard, Rashford, Pogba, Sanchez ect.
Beckham was one player. We’ve almost a squad full of players that don’t give a flying feck what happens on the pitch as long as their brand remains shielded by whoever the next manager is.
Breaking that circle by adding young players to it like Maddison and others seems an odd strategy to me. They won't change the pool of players the pool of players will change him. If you go with youth these days you have to accept they'll be hanging out together and on social media and invited to a zillion related events. SAF had to sell Lee Sharp to protect Ryan Giggs in his eyes....The class of 92 were surrounded by mature players.....what we are asking Ole to do is something no other PL team is really doing....or has ever done.....build a team around young hungry players? Using young players already here who a) ain't that young and b) ain't that hungry!
He’s an absolute Berk.
If he is turning in an 8/10 performance week in week out, it’s tolerable.
If he’s not, it’s not.
That’s not a double standard. Nor is it hypocritical. It’s common sense.
At the moment, no other club would pay him what he earns here. If they would, we should sell him, as he’s not producing the goods on the pitch. If the club offers him a pay rise to keep him, we should all give up.
As a corollary: Many regular workplaces have a casual attitude to socialising, lunch time drinks and such. It’s not so much ‘work hard play hard’ as ‘Do your job’. Do an average job or worse, and light will be shone on those long Friday afternoons at the Dog n Duck.
I could absolutely tolerate (read: ignore) the twattish man-child behaviour if he was leading by example on the pitch, but let’s be honest... He’s not, and he never has for more more than a few weeks at a time.
I’d let him go this summer. He needs to be a small fish in a big pond. He’d get into - and thrive - in that Liverpool squad, lets be fair. He’s a top 6 Premier League footballer BUT if the club can’t marginalise his brand of banter, he’s going to swim around like a gaudy Great White in the shithouse no-mark squad that we currently have.
If he is turning in an 8/10 performance week in week out, it’s tolerable.
If he’s not, it’s not.
That’s not a double standard. Nor is it hypocritical. It’s common sense.
At the moment, no other club would pay him what he earns here. If they would, we should sell him, as he’s not producing the goods on the pitch. If the club offers him a pay rise to keep him, we should all give up.
As a corollary: Many regular workplaces have a casual attitude to socialising, lunch time drinks and such. It’s not so much ‘work hard play hard’ as ‘Do your job’. Do an average job or worse, and light will be shone on those long Friday afternoons at the Dog n Duck.
I could absolutely tolerate (read: ignore) the twattish man-child behaviour if he was leading by example on the pitch, but let’s be honest... He’s not, and he never has for more more than a few weeks at a time.
I’d let him go this summer. He needs to be a small fish in a big pond. He’d get into - and thrive - in that Liverpool squad, lets be fair. He’s a top 6 Premier League footballer BUT if the club can’t marginalise his brand of banter, he’s going to swim around like a gaudy Great White in the shithouse no-mark squad that we currently have.
17 pages of Jlingz discussion and countless more views to his video as a result. Exactly what he wants to stay relevant for his brand exposure. We are implicitly feeding it. Perks of playing for one of most popular clubs in the world.
One of SAF's biggest mistakes. What fergie seemed to be saying was Becks no longer stayed longer than anyone else after training, so that he could go home to his new family (hardly a crime)
Find it mad that people still think Jesse is from Manchester he’s from Warrington lived on an estate not far from my house.
Beckham clearly lost focus in his last 2.5 seasons. Not remotely a mistake by Fergie.
beckham never ever lost focus - wherever he played
That depends on what he means by save it. There are options when you're posting a story to only post it so that specific groups of people to see. He could have accidentally selected the wrong group if he wasn't paying proper attention.
Well, I’m guessing it was put out by his PR peeps. So, I think what they would say to that is. “Eh, yeah. Yeah, that’s tots what we meant, obvs.”.
This post is full of a whole lot of words based purely on speculation, conjecture, your own biases and what the media feeds you. You don't know these people. You're not in the dressing room. You don't know the culture. You can't tell me whose personality has changed.
Rashford and Lingard likely have always been like this but you're only seeing it now with social media. I've seen people judged by others based on what the public knows but they're not actually like that at all. But you see them on the football pitch and whatever snippets they post and fell you know them and can see what has changed. Sure.
Saying all that, there are points in this long post that I do agree with. The stuff about the little kids and Sir Alex dealing with it. But again, you don't know any of them. You don't know if they care about the club. Rashford and Lingard do all those nice things for Man Utd fans because they don't care. Anyway, this isn't necessarily to defend those two but just to point out that just because you write a lot of stuff that makes sense doesn't mean it's actually true or that what you see is actually what's happening.
Actually liked this video. First one I saw.
If J-Lingz was even a half decent player he could get away with dabbing and pretending to have swagger. This guy really rubs me the wrong way.
Its like pretending to look like Jessica Alba, but you really look like Susan Boyle.
Its like pretending to look like Jessica Alba, but you really look like Susan Boyle.
He's been with Manchester United since he was 7 years old or for 19 years. Saying he's from Warrington and not Manchester is splitting hairs. Manchester is really the only thing he knows.
Eh?
More like pretending to look like a fashion supermodel, but really only looking like a Margot Robbie. He might not be one of the 50 best footballers in the world, but he's still damn near the very top.
He's a multimillionaire, England international and Manchester United starter. He's lived his dreams and almost everyone on the planet would swap lives with him.
Lingard has every right to be happy with his lot. It's unreasonable to demand an arbitrary limit on who can and can't have 'swagger'.
First, to the bolded Fpart, yikes!
Secondly, for as long as there have been people who acted like they had more talent than that actually have, people have pointed at those people and bemoaned their existence. Its like being lied to, no one likes it. so while lingard has every right to act as he does, so to, do the public to react to that. Most people, dont like show offs. People dislike ronaldo for the persona he puts out, and hes one of the best the game has ever seen. So why people continue to think lingard isnt going to get the same, and worse because he cant back it up in performances, I just dont get. Outside of running a lot, he brings nothing to the table. He had a purple patch, and for whatever reason thats all people are remembering now.
His own club fans dislike him more than rival fans do. I dont recall seeing that before
I really think that is the heart of the problem. Most people wouldn't care about his nonsense if he would be a top performer for us week in week out but the way he is playing of course he is getting stick for nonsense like this.
Wtf, Margot Robbie is hotter than a lot, if not most fashion supermodels
I really liked Lingard back in the Reserve days and when he broke into the first team but at the back end of the season he was like a crisp packet in a strong wind and never near the ball.
In my eyes he is has to really be on his game to be a first teamer and he does not do it often enough in my opinion.
In my eyes he is has to really be on his game to be a first teamer and he does not do it often enough in my opinion.
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How is it splitting hairs.. he is from Warrington it’s a fact he didn’t leave home when he was 7?
He went high school here Carrington is a half an hour drive from my house?
It's splitting hairs because when people say "he's from Manchester" they're not literally meaning he was born there but that his football was born in Manchester or so to speak as he's been with the club all his life.
Of course they are meaning he’s from Manchester what are you talking about, this is a none argument btw, he’s from Warrington. People always say he’s a manc and he’s not. They say he’s a manc because they think he’s from Manchester it’s simple. Jesus. Usually when I tell people he’s not from Manchester they didn’t know.. I don’t really care it’s just an observation.
Nah, people think he's from Manchester because he sounds like, and dances and dresses like a typical Mancunian
He's from Varrington, famous for Wodka, and proud of it.
I’m confused?Nah, people think he's from Manchester because he sounds like, and dances and dresses like a typical Mancunian
He's from Varrington, famous for Wodka, and proud of it.
He sounds like he’s from Warrington to me with a bit of manc in him, which he’s obvs picked up. I get mistaken for manc outside the north west. So can see why people think it tbf.
Plenty of scousers have invaded here now though as well like everywhere else
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Are people comparing Jling man child with Becks. The future is bleak.
For all his off field poshness ( pun intended) he was a consummate professional on the field and a bloody good player. Lingz is not even worthy of lacing his shoes. The only thing Lingard is doing is cashing on the 'Look at me i am a academy player' bullshit
For all his off field poshness ( pun intended) he was a consummate professional on the field and a bloody good player. Lingz is not even worthy of lacing his shoes. The only thing Lingard is doing is cashing on the 'Look at me i am a academy player' bullshit
It's like pretending you are sex, when you are really just wank.
At least Susan Boyle is a world class talent, people would pay to watch her sing.
Lingard on the other hand, what's so good about him exactly? nothing world class about him.
Mad to me that Lindelof is nearly 3 years younger than him haha
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Probably before your time, but there used to be an advert on TV for Wodka made in Varrington
poster boy
Sorry pal but anyone who is in denial of this most obvious drop from his previous standards is just refusing to accept the fact that he was traipsing around the world on his rest days, more intent on promoting his wife’s career when he should be looking after his own. It showed, consistently, as his game suffered for 2.5 seasons. Did ok at Madrid but hardly set the place alight. Stars in his eyes, never recaptured his old form. If he was producing where it counted, Fergie wouldn’t be showing him the door.
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To be fair Warrington is, what, 15-20 miles down the road from Manchester? That counts as a local lad really, especially when you look at the world on a global scale.
Judging from his taste in women you can see why he thinks Lingard is a top player
Judging from his taste in women you can see why he thinks Lingard is a top player