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Sporting refusing to drop their priceIf that's true then can someone please explain the following train of thought:
- Manager wants transfers done by preseason
- United interested in Bruno Fernandes
- months worth of links to Bruno
- United still considering signing the player with less than two weeks left of the transfer window
How exactly does that happen? Someone please explain to me how it could possibly be anything other than poor poor handling of our transfers.
I agree it's poor, but I wonder what is exactly happening in those negotiations. Something is so so weird.If that's true then can someone please explain the following train of thought:
- Manager wants transfers done by preseason
- United interested in Bruno Fernandes
- months worth of links to Bruno
- United still considering signing the player with less than two weeks left of the transfer window
How exactly does that happen? Someone please explain to me how it could possibly be anything other than poor poor handling of our transfers.
Literally why. I swear him and the rest of the Ayews are just constantly swapping between Palace, Swansea and Villa.Tweet
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Aye.Literally why. I swear him and the rest of the Ayews are just constantly swapping between Palace, Swansea and Villa.
Don't you mean Aye-w?!Aye.
There's what, six of them, right? We should get one too.
i guess we only wanted him if Pogba leftIf that's true then can someone please explain the following train of thought:
- Manager wants transfers done by preseason
- United interested in Bruno Fernandes
- months worth of links to Bruno
- United still considering signing the player with less than two weeks left of the transfer window
How exactly does that happen? Someone please explain to me how it could possibly be anything other than poor poor handling of our transfers.
I got the impression it was independent of Pogba.i guess we only wanted him if Pogba left
My concern is it is a lot like summer of Moyes. When we signed just Fellaini. Are we waiting and lingering on some big galactico type again? We've seen how long our big name signings last...Schwein, Di Maria, Alexis, Matic... We've always peppered those around a core of up and coming talent. So I wish we just made the move for that Milo whatever his name is instead of haggling 5, 10 million on Maggie. Wish we would just send 50 mil to Sporting instead of considering negotiations w levy for Eriksen. Wish we would just sell Lukaku and replace him with someone like Dybala or Werner or even just keep the money and play Greenwood. But the long extended transfer sagas suck.I agree it's poor, but I wonder what is exactly happening in those negotiations. Something is so so weird.
That is what I have thought on the situation all along,has been a funny old day for Utd news on Skyi guess we only wanted him if Pogba left
My concern is we don't have the money. And we're trying to play games with the terms. Sounds like we've only offered 20 for Longstaff. 70 for Maguire. Fine. But the selling teams want more. Follow up. Negotiate now so that we're not scrambling and overpaying. Why wait? It's madness to wait until the last two weeks when the selling team literally can't replace him. I don't know if it's judge or Woodward doing these things but they both need to be removed from the club quickly. We needed to spend 300m to catch up for this season. If we don't get another CB or RW, I can't see us getting top 6. Even with Maguire, top 4 is going to be impossible unless we get very lucky with injuries. Why are we allowing this to happen to our club?I agree it's poor, but I wonder what is exactly happening in those negotiations. Something is so so weird.
Who can Arsenal sign that will cause this?If arsenal end up with a better window than us, I'll be sad.
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Only one reason: price demanded by the selling club combined with what the buying club wants to offer. Woodward and the Glazers don’t want to overpay.If that's true then can someone please explain the following train of thought:
- Manager wants transfers done by preseason
- United interested in Bruno Fernandes
- months worth of links to Bruno
- United still considering signing the player with less than two weeks left of the transfer window
How exactly does that happen? Someone please explain to me how it could possibly be anything other than poor poor handling of our transfers.
No reasonable club would. No different to us and Madrid over Pogba.Only one reason: price demanded by the selling club combined with what the buying club wants to offer. Woodward and the Glazers don’t want to overpay.
From a supporters view this can be very frustrating though, especially when last summers transfer window also was underwhelming.No reasonable club would. No different to us and Madrid over Pogba.
Unless you want to end up like Barca, massively living beyond your means. If people don’t think shit with Barca will hit the fan at the rate they’re going, they’re kidding themselves.
It’s not about penny pinching owners and woody. It’s about running a self sufficient and successful business
This is a very naive way of looking at it. We’ve offered 70m bloody pounds for Maguire and your negotiating tactic is just pay more? We’d run out of bloody cash. If teams won’t budge on price, we shouldn’t creep up when we’ve already made a very fair bid.My concern is we don't have the money. And we're trying to play games with the terms. Sounds like we've only offered 20 for Longstaff. 70 for Maguire. Fine. But the selling teams want more. Follow up. Negotiate now so that we're not scrambling and overpaying. Why wait? It's madness to wait until the last two weeks when the selling team literally can't replace him. I don't know if it's judge or Woodward doing these things but they both need to be removed from the club quickly. We needed to spend 300m to catch up for this season. If we don't get another CB or RW, I can't see us getting top 6. Even with Maguire, top 4 is going to be impossible unless we get very lucky with injuries. Why are we allowing this to happen to our club?
Sources close to me have said no media outlets have a clue if we are interested in Fernandes. There is a daily change on what is happening with him.Tweet
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He used to leak the United teams early so may actually have some contacts.
Move on then and find another option. It’s mental just to hope we sign him.This is a very naive way of looking at it. We’ve offered 70m bloody pounds for Maguire and your negotiating tactic is just pay more? We’d run out of bloody cash. If teams won’t budge on price, we shouldn’t creep up when we’ve already made a very fair bid.
We won't play a 4-4-2 diamond. We've been playing 4-2-3-1 all preseason, and if we're gonna play something else it'll probably be 4-3-3. 4-4-2 diamond might happen in certain games, but not as our main formation. I'm guessing you haven't seen that many games this preseason?I think slowing down a bit on the transfer front is fine as well. We won't have a title challenge next year anyway, so we should give this whole youth thing a shot and if Ole flops horribly we won't be stuck with yet another re-build job once a new manager / philosophy come in.
We'll make atleast one more big money signing (I'd much rather it be some CM / Winger than Maguire), but even if we've only got James, Maguire, AWB, we'd have strengthened key deficiencies in the squad really well. If we get someone like Eriksen (or any other AM like Fernandes) to top it off, it'll be the perfect summer for me.
Excited to see a 4-4-2 diamond (we've played this with Mata at the tip of the diamond last season)
---------------- De Gea -------------------
-- AWB -- Maguire -- Lindelof -- Shaw --
------------------ Matic -------------------
---------- McTominay -- Pogba -----------
------------------ Eriksen -----------------
-- Rashford -------------------Martial ----
In defence it will look more like a traditional 4-5-1 with Eriksen / Rashford occupying the forward role and the other one dropping off to cover the RW.
---------------- De Gea -------------------
-- AWB -- Maguire -- Lindelof -- Shaw --
------------------ Matic -------------------
--Rashford-- McTominay -- Pogba -- Martial
------------------ Eriksen -----------------
It looks like we have enough depth at CM but someone like Longstaff to rotate with Matic would be great as well. McTominay can play the Matic role when he's rested / injured. McSauce can be rotated with Fred / Pereira. If Pogba is rested, we'd have to switch to a different formation and play a 5-3-2 (with Rojo replacing him) or 4-5-1 with James / some other winger replacing him and Rashford upfront.
We don’t know what the rejection was, was it just the structure of the deal or a flat out no. We also could have moved on as well, but getting similar prices. I don’t think we’re playing this as bad as everyone thinks.Move on then and find another option. It’s mental just to hope we sign him.
1) journalists make shit up (all the time), then other journalists make up some more shit based on the original shit, and eventually you have a massive story based on feck all.If that's true then can someone please explain the following train of thought:
- Manager wants transfers done by preseason
- United interested in Bruno Fernandes
- months worth of links to Bruno
- United still considering signing the player with less than two weeks left of the transfer window
How exactly does that happen? Someone please explain to me how it could possibly be anything other than poor poor handling of our transfers.
There’s also a chance that Gomes has impressed on tour and we decided to give him an opportunity before bringing someone else in.Only one reason: price demanded by the selling club combined with what the buying club wants to offer. Woodward and the Glazers don’t want to overpay.
Might be. However I read often here the term “just pay what they want”. That’s not how negotiations work in real life - and would be horrible business regardless of who owns us.There’s also a chance that Gomes has impressed on tour and we decided to give him an opportunity before bringing someone else in.
And if Pogba stays, we are happy with Mata and Lingard? It simply cannot be if the manager has any ambitioni guess we only wanted him if Pogba left
Based on nothing.Nah, does sound like us
Sounds like a 10 is only a priority if pogba leaves though. Right now priority appears to be a cb and depth in the double pivot, which will likely cost between 100 and 140m based on prices quotes for maguire and longstaff. That brings spending to 150 to 200m. I doubt they want to jist sign a 10 for 75m when the priority positions aren't sortedAnd if Pogba stays, we are happy with Mata and Lingard? It simply cannot be if the manager has any ambition
We might want someone else more than Bruno, but it’s unthinkable that we only want a midfielder if Pogba leaves
And as return we may get the CL next season which gives 50-60 mil in revenue. IMHO the club wont invest until sponsorship deals are in danger.Sounds like a 10 is only a priority if pogba leaves though. Right now priority appears to be a cb and depth in the double pivot, which will likely cost between 100 and 140m based on prices quotes for maguire and longstaff. That brings spending to 150 to 200m. I doubt they want to jist sign a 10 for 75m when the priority positions aren't sorted
Sounds like a 10 is only a priority if pogba leaves though. Right now priority appears to be a cb and depth in the double pivot, which will likely cost between 100 and 140m based on prices quotes for maguire and longstaff. That brings spending to 150 to 200m. I doubt they want to jist sign a 10 for 75m when the priority positions aren't sorted
These are your priorities though and not the priority reported by the 3 or 4 reliable journalistsWe have 4 priority positions now that RB is sorted. We can’t hope to challenge for the league if we dont buy strong CB, DM, AM and RF.
It’s only if we lost ambition and are happy with a top 4 finish - but the supporters won’t be happy with that
That’s my assessment of the weaknesses In Our squad, right. But I think many would agree with itThese are your priorities though and not the priority reported by the 3 or 4 reliable journalists
Would be such a poor move from him, salary increase aside. Surely he can hold out for a top 4 club for another season.Tweet
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We can't buy a midfielder until we are sure Pogba stays or goes, as the whole composition and balance would change. If he goes then we need a replacement, and have a far bigger budget left to get another midfielder too, who would be bought to fit for example Savic rather than Pogba. We need Real to hurry up and offload Bale and James. Regardless of what Ole says, this delay in buying midfielders just confirms to me that Pogba does have a price. Just one that Real can't afford without selling Bale and James first.And if Pogba stays, we are happy with Mata and Lingard? It simply cannot be if the manager has any ambition
We might want someone else more than Bruno, but it’s unthinkable that we only want a midfielder if Pogba leaves
I don't think he has the quality for a top 4 side.Would be such a poor move from him, salary increase aside. Surely he can hold out for a top 4 club for another season.