Paulo Dybala

Status
Not open for further replies.

izec

Full Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2013
Messages
27,326
Location
Lucilinburhuc
The thing i don't like about this is the fact that he doesn't want to come (or it seems that way, anyway)

Why do we want another player like that at the club. Regardless of how good he is, it's just a silly mistake again by the club. If indeed it's true. Looks like it's a move being forced upon him rather than him wanting to come here.
He wants to join, otherwise his agent wouldnt be flying over. He will listen to the contract offer and the plan for him. It is for us to convince to join him. He would like to stay, but once he realises that he is better off here and the role we can give him, he will happily take it. I doubt Aguero and Silva dreamt about City, but in the end they joined because of money and project.
 

KristianMackle

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Aug 8, 2015
Messages
695
Dybala doesn't fit in our team.
Rather have the money of lukaku and have a proper RW.

Dybala is not a RW
Let me help you out here.

We play an interchangeable front 3. So none of the front three is confined to their starting positions.
They switch positions throughout, confusing defenses. So in that sense, you don't need a regular RW, instead you get 3 forwards who will utilize their skills to get into scoring positions without being forced to stay at one place on the pitch.
 

bleedred

Full Member
Joined
May 2, 2011
Messages
5,825
Location
404
I would have been excited about this transfer in the past but I am feeling very meh about this. ADM and Sanchez have stolen my muppet mojo.
 

RedNed77

New Member
Joined
Sep 7, 2014
Messages
2,658




EDIT: Apologies for it being massive, unlike the apparent like-for-like upgrade on our current slow-right-sided-probably-a-number-10-rightwinger
 

Summit

"do the dead, spread your seed and get out"
Joined
Nov 10, 2011
Messages
51,054
What a dumb swap. We dont learn from our past mistakes.
Doesn't matter what United do they can never win in some fans eyes. I get where you are coming from, but you can guarantee that if Spurs were swapping a player for him, some of our fans would be crying that we weren't all over it.

Let's just wait and see what team Ole assembles and get behind him for the coming season.
 

VP89

Pogba's biggest fan
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
31,910
As great as this sounds, I'm taking away the key information from Di Marzio that Dybala wants to stay. History shows its not always a good idea to buy Argentines who aren't sold on our club.. Not that they're all the same but I would be much more positive if he was bought into this transfer as much as the clubs are.
 

ChaddyP

Full Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2011
Messages
13,852
Location
Jamaica
Dybala fits our team, he is an hybrid 10/9 and fits perfectly where Lingard and Mata have been playing this preseason.
makes me wonder if we regret giving mata a new deal now. if he comes that makes our attacking line of the 4 infront the CMS up Mata, Lingard, James, Martial, Rashford , Sanchez (yeh hes still here) , Dybala . That doesnt include the likes of Greenwood and a potential deal for Bruno that is apparently also close to completion. Surely Lingards days are numbered if this goes through
 

Art Vandelay

Full Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Messages
5,729
Location
Northern Ireland
Not been enough fantasy line ups on the last few pages, I'd love to see us line up with this team against Chelsea:

De Gea
Wan-Bissaka - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McTominay - Pogba
Lingard - Dybala - Martial
Rashford

Only big glaring spot left then is right wing.
I'd drop Lingard for James. See how David Luis likes being closed down with that pace.
 

Tiber

Full Member
Joined
Apr 22, 2014
Messages
10,294
Come on Sir Ed, get a new Official pajamas partner on board and get this deal done!
 

ChaddyP

Full Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2011
Messages
13,852
Location
Jamaica
As great as this sounds, I'm taking away the key information from Di Marzio that Dybala wants to stay. History shows its not always a good idea to buy Argentines who aren't sold on our club.. Not that they're all the same but I would be much more positive if he was bought into this transfer as much as the clubs are.

i agree that we should be apprehensive about a player that doesnt want to come here. I want a player that is comitted to playing here. With that said, if he didnt want to come why did he send his agent all the way here. Curious that one
 

AltiUn

likes playing with swords after fantasies
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
23,673
I'd drop Lingard for James. See how David Luis likes being closed down with that pace.
Yeah, we can sort of stick whoever on RW really considering we kinda don't have one :lol: we'll be fine next year when we sign Sancho though :drool:
 

Offside

Euro 2016 sweepstake winner
Joined
Jun 9, 2012
Messages
26,779
Location
London
We haven’t signed either of them. There is no guarantee we are signing both AND keeping Pogba. So why worry about a hypothetical situation?
What? That's the situation that is unfolding. Being a football fan in the Summer is contemplating far greater hypothetical situations than this one.
 

mu4c_20le

Full Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Messages
44,283
i agree that we should be apprehensive about a player that doesnt want to come here. I want a player that is comitted to playing here. With that said, if he didnt want to come why did he send his agent all the way here. Curious that one
He doesn't want to leave, juve want to move him (been hearing about it for months before the summer window), he's exploring his options. Can't blame him for not wanting to leave a good thing and regular trophies at juve to come to us, but if we can keep Pogba, i think we have an exciting project that might tempt him to star in.
 

Striker10

"Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
18,857
Juventus are playing at a higher level, have champions league. People say he don't want to come here but I would assume it's more like he needs convincing. Which isn't that big a deal. Players want to see where the club is headed. We've had speculation over Pogba. I think it'd be an interesting move for sure but it could be a great bit of business. If it's doable.
 

KennyBurner

New Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Messages
4,673
Location
ATL
I think one of the major reasons we would take Dybala is that we are selling Pogba, so Woodward desperately need a new "Star" for commercial uses.
We arent selling pogba even if we get Dybala so theres no correlation. Lukaku is the only one going if Dybala arrives.
 

Adnandos

Full Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Messages
686
This cant be real, bro :drool:

He's seemed destined for Barca his whole career but with Griez and potentially Neymar back there eventually, he could be here for the long haul. Assuming this isnt total bullshit, which it very well could be
 

Raw

Full Member
Joined
Oct 31, 2013
Messages
25,450
Location
Manchester, UK
makes me wonder if we regret giving mata a new deal now. if he comes that makes our attacking line of the 4 infront the CMS up Mata, Lingard, James, Martial, Rashford , Sanchez (yeh hes still here) , Dybala . That doesnt include the likes of Greenwood and a potential deal for Bruno that is apparently also close to completion. Surely Lingards days are numbered if this goes through
With how many games we're likely to play, 8/9 players for 4 positions doesn't seem so bad. Look at City and how stacked they are with attackers.

ST: Rashford/Dybala/Martial/Greenwood
LW: Martial/James/Sanchez
RW: Dybala/Lingard/James/Mata
AM: Dybala/Pogba/Mata/Gomes

Bruno will likely play the majority of his games in CM alongside Pogba but I guess he can fill in at attacking midfield. I guess the best solution would be to phase out Sanchez and Mata, give Lingard a lesser role and let the rest fight for their positions.
 

Summit

"do the dead, spread your seed and get out"
Joined
Nov 10, 2011
Messages
51,054
Someone tell me why his agent is talking to us if he doesn't want to leave Juve? "He'd like to stay" What is that all about?
 

AltiUn

likes playing with swords after fantasies
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
23,673
Someone tell me why his agent is talking to us if he doesn't want to leave Juve? "He'd like to stay" What is that all about?
Staying might be his preference but he could also be somewhat open to a new challenge.
 

Art Vandelay

Full Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2015
Messages
5,729
Location
Northern Ireland
makes me wonder if we regret giving mata a new deal now. if he comes that makes our attacking line of the 4 infront the CMS up Mata, Lingard, James, Martial, Rashford , Sanchez (yeh hes still here) , Dybala . That doesnt include the likes of Greenwood and a potential deal for Bruno that is apparently also close to completion. Surely Lingards days are numbered if this goes through

I'd take him purely for that reason alone. I think given how interchangeable a lot of those players are in various positions then we should be fine getting minutes for everyone. If the more experienced players don't perform then at least we have the option of dropping them.
 

JPRouve

can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate
Scout
Joined
Jan 31, 2014
Messages
66,139
Location
France
i agree that we should be apprehensive about a player that doesnt want to come here. I want a player that is comitted to playing here. With that said, if he didnt want to come why did he send his agent all the way here. Curious that one
It's not curious. There is a difference between not being interested and having beforehand a preference, football fans tend to see things black and white but all decision is more nuanced. Logically a player that is settled in Italy and plays for a great club will prefer to stay if the conditions are correct which means that we are the ones that need to sell him our project and convince him that we are the perfect place for him, that can only happen through discussions with the player or his agent.
 

BusbyMalone

First Man Falling
Joined
May 22, 2017
Messages
10,362
He wants to join, otherwise his agent wouldnt be flying over. He will listen to the contract offer and the plan for him. It is for us to convince to join him. He would like to stay, but once he realises that he is better off here and the role we can give him, he will happily take it. I doubt Aguero and Silva dreamt about City, but in the end they joined because of money and project.
That's not necessarily true. Just because his agent is over here doesn't mean that he wants to join. More to do the fact that both Juve and United want this to happen so he's being thrown into it.

I hope you're right of course because i would like him here, and maybe he will settle in when everything is said and done. That Di Maria transfer burned me good and i just don't want another one of those on our hands. On paper it's a fantastic deal for us and i can't quite believe that Juve actually want this to happen. Lukaku for Dybala? Mental.
 

UNITED ACADEMY

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2018
Messages
13,127
Supports
Erik ten Hag




EDIT: Apologies for it being massive, unlike the apparent like-for-like upgrade on our current slow-right-sided-probably-a-number-10-rightwinger
Nothing worse than Mata especially last season. Play youngster wouldn’t even hurt.
 

Tom Van Persie

No relation
Joined
Dec 12, 2012
Messages
24,719
More info from Fabrizio Romano.

Dybala’s agent is at work in UK
- The agent of Paulo Dybala is now in UK. He’s going to talk with Manchester United about a possible deal and especially about the contract bid.
- Paulo since last May has always said to his agents and to Juventus that his desire was to stay. He doesn’t want to leave Juventus. ⚪⚫
- Juventus directors are ready to sell him and that’s why Dybala is considering to start talks about personal terms with other clubs like Man United.
- Dybala will take the decision about his future on next days. Man United are waiting and would like to start talks with Juventus about a swap with Romelu Lukaku (Inter are in tue race for “Big Rom” but still no agreement with Man Utd); Juve are waiting for Paulo’s decision too. ⁉
 

Patrick08

New Member
Joined
Mar 30, 2018
Messages
5,447
He can play as a right sided striker which we lack, let's see what pans out in coming days.
 

ChaddyP

Full Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2011
Messages
13,852
Location
Jamaica
With how many games we're likely to play, 8/9 players for 4 positions doesn't seem so bad. Look at City and how stacked they are with attackers.

ST: Rashford/Dybala/Martial/Greenwood
LW: Martial/James/Sanchez
RW: Dybala/Lingard/James/Mata
AM: Dybala/Pogba/Mata/Gomes

Bruno will likely play the majority of his games in CM alongside Pogba but I guess he can fill in at attacking midfield. I guess the best solution would be to phase out Sanchez and Mata, give Lingard a lesser role and let the rest fight for their positions.

I dont think they are that stacked. maybe im missing something. they have 2 strikers in aguero and that brazilian guy. The wing they have sane , sterling and mahrez. Sometimes B silva plays there or midfield . Thats not that much but hey the more the merrier. I just hope there is a plan
 

bosnian_red

Worst scout to ever exist
Joined
Aug 13, 2011
Messages
58,148
Location
Canada
Someone tell me why his agent is talking to us if he doesn't want to leave Juve? "He'd like to stay" What is that all about?
If he had an important role at Juve, he would prefer to stay, but if not, he is open to going somewhere where he could be a key player. That somewhere is looking like United is favourites, though I wouldnt be surprised if in that scenario, PSG tries to go for him too and then it's a 50/50 shot between the 2 clubs.
 

WR10

Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018
Joined
Jul 19, 2009
Messages
5,644
Location
Dream




EDIT: Apologies for it being massive, unlike the apparent like-for-like upgrade on our current slow-right-sided-probably-a-number-10-rightwinger
Should note that Dybala had his worst season last season.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.