cyberman
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It really wasn't that long ago (my point) and the search button is pretty swift.you really took the time to go back through this thread to find hat quote? You're a weird man
It really wasn't that long ago (my point) and the search button is pretty swift.you really took the time to go back through this thread to find hat quote? You're a weird man
He fat thumbed-up the cnut.you really took the time to go back through this thread to find hat quote? You're a weird man
Erm. The Dybala deal we are working on? Everything is agreed with the club but not with the player.''Subject to personal terms being agreed''
You've got to love the fact that football continues to maintain this facade that personal terms are not in most cases agreed with the player long before the first bid is even lodged.
VVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.Yes, he is.
He's down to the fine details now, so he doesn't have to sit opposite Jesse in the dressing room and watch him dab, whilst trying to figure out how he's actually younger than young Jesse.''Subject to personal terms being agreed''
You've got to love the fact that football continues to maintain this facade that personal terms are not in most cases agreed with the player long before the first bid is even lodged.
Mental list.VVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
He is too 5 in the league and to get that list together we had to list too many players deep into their 30s or highly injury prone. Of players the right side of 30 there aren't many you would preferVVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
OkVVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
Why?Mental list.
Mental.
Those two are up for debate..VVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
Sounds like Bs. The kind non-united fans don't know why it is, but we do. There are like 5 different reasons Smalling probably won't be the first defender out the doorAccording to Luckhurst, Smalling is already being offered to clubs because he can't pass beyond 5 yards without dislocating a hip. In other words, he doesn't fit our new style of play. Fine defender, though.
If not for injuries there is no doubt that Umtiti is better.Those two are up for debate..
Why does this even matter? We've bought him (almost).... Time to get behind him. He's the best we can buy (without being able to offer Champions League football and he doesn't need time to get adjusted to the league and more importantly, he's younger than more than half of the people of that list. He would improve our defense and compliment Lindelof and that's what matters.VVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
Absolutely zero basis for Lenglet, Varane, or Ramos to rate as better than Maguire currently. Godin and Chiellini also seemed to have dropped a level when I saw them last year.VVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
Yes Im not saying that everyone of those players would had been a better choice, mostly because of their age.He is too 5 in the league and to get that list together we had to list too many players deep into their 30s or highly injury prone. Of players the right side of 30 there aren't many you would prefer
He makes up that list and doesn’t even put Pique up there.Absolutely zero basis for Lenglet, Varane, or Ramos to rate as better than Maguire currently. Godin and Chiellini also seemed to have dropped a level when I saw them last year.
Price isn't value I guess. De ligt agent might get 10m more than Maguires and wages seemed to be a sticking point ... it is hard to believe barce wouldn't just lay it to keep de jong and de ligt together thoughYes Im not saying that everyone of those players would had been a better choice, mostly because of their age.
But I find odd the world record was broken for Maguire and not for De Ligt who is the second coming of Jesus according to many here.
Literally just throwing out names for the sake of itHe makes up that list and doesn’t even put Pique up there.
De Ligt had agreement with Ajax that he could leave and they wouldn’t push for crazy fees. He could have left in the last few years but stayed where as Maguire signed a long term contract last September.Yes Im not saying that everyone of those players would had been a better choice, mostly because of their age.
But I find odd the world record was broken for Maguire and not for De Ligt who is the second coming of Jesus according to many here.
Think it's more to do with getting him to the club to do the physical and signing a actual contract (photo op one). I am sure everything in principal with the player has been agreed already''Subject to personal terms being agreed''
You've got to love the fact that football continues to maintain this facade that personal terms are not in most cases agreed with the player long before the first bid is even lodged.
It's a random list of names.Why?
Agreed. The hate some 'supporters' have rubbishing every player we buy.Why does this even matter? We've bought him (almost).... Time to get behind him. He's the best we can buy (without being able to offer Champions League football and he doesn't need time to get adjusted to the league and more importantly, he's younger than more than half of the people of that list. He would improve our defense and compliment Lindelof and that's what matters.
Lenglet I agree we can have a debate, but Ramos and Varane are on another level. Not even close.Absolutely zero basis for Lenglet, Varane, or Ramos to rate as better than Maguire currently. Godin and Chiellini also seemed to have dropped a level when I saw them last year.
I’ve never really rated Pique. Yes he is technically gifted but purely defensive wise I don’t think he is rock solid. Again its just my opinion, that’s what forums are for isnt it?He makes up that list and doesn’t even put Pique up there.
These days i'd say that is one of the rarer instances where personal terms have't been agreed weeks in advance.Erm. The Dybala deal we are working on? Everything is agreed with the club but not with the player.
Sorry but these are, mostly, either has beens or players who just sound cool.VVD is the best CB in the world right now, I think everybody can agree with that. Maguire in my opinion is not even on the top 10.
VVD
Ramos
Godin
Chiellini
Koulibally
Thiago Silva
Varane
De Ligt
Lenglet
Laporte
Umtiti
No doubt mate thats what i'm talking about, United and his agent will have already agreed personal terms weeks if not months ago.Think it's more to do with getting him to the club to do the physical and signing a actual contract (photo op one). I am sure everything in principal with the player has been agreed already
Sums up everything that is wrong with our club at the moment, we could have picked him up for 17m two years ago but no, we can't see the potential so we pay five times the price now. Paying a world record fee for a CB that doesn't exactly set the world on fire, he's good but not amazing. How many top clubs in Europe would crave him as desperately as we have if they needed a CB, few if any I'd say. I just can't get excited about this even though he will improve our defence.Very skeptical. So much money for a player who is not really taking us to the next level. Maguire is a good player, but he's no Van Dijk. Still think our transfer strategy is way, way off.