Well put, as so often. I have a limited grasp of British politics and probably deviating views on some details, but couldn't agree more with the main point.
That’s implying that centrism is exclusively about trying to find the (absolute) middle ground in any scenario in order to please everybody / reach a compromise.
My comment was more to do with a poster above who mentioned that the left needs to meet the right and compromise like centralists.
I’d be interested to hear how you came to believe that liberalism is a left position when the left was always about conformity of ideas (mainly to a socialist ideology, but not exclusively) whereas liberalism and libertarianism always lived in the middle.
Im using modern days terms not historical terms. I think you really understand anyway and are being pedantic.
How are they made up terms? In this day and age any person who sees themselves as Liberal sit on the left and all those who see themselves as traditionalists see them selves as right leaning. That is modern day. No one here is talking about historical context. It's about how people see things now.
Nobody that I know see things that way. All the liberals I know are Lib Dems and centrists. Only in America, where centrists don’t exist, are Liberals grouped with the left. And last I checked, America isn’t the world.
As I said be pedant. In this day and age people describe lib dems as a leftist party. With leftist policies. And no I'm from the UK born and raised.
Your mixing up Liberal I the UK and Libertarianism which is quite a right wing philosophy in the US. We all know liberal in the UK, left of centre, remain Lib Dem’s etc. libertarianism is about freedom to look after yourself without interference from anyone especially government ie free will, in the US this is seen as right wing and republican ie small government.
I really like the part in bold. Although I'm somewhat idealistic by nature, I've come to realise that the world doesn't work like that and never will, so the best solution is to use rational and realistic options.
Centrism is just a crappy and useless word to use in general(I use it out of laziness sometimes). Neoliberalism is far better because the word actual has a ideology and a history. Blair was a neoliberal politician, we can debate if he was on the left side or the right side of this political idea but he was in the end a neoliberal. The same can be said of Cameron, May, Thatcher, Clinton, Bush, Obama(You can pretty much extend this toward most of the EU as well).
Yipes! you make them sound like bigger melts than even I suspected. That's Dawkins-gobbler levels of smug self-identification. Should Centrists be made to wear fedoras at all times to simplify the taxonomy?
On certain issues such as homophobia there are no and definitely should be no compromise.
This is really weird to me and I know that only from America where liberal has another meaning and is somehow a bad word (generally, how can being liberal ever be bad).
Same in The Netherlands. Biggest Liberal party is the VVD which is considered right wing. Albeit, moderately right wing, not full on bigot cnut right wing.
Dawkins-gobbler? As in Richard Dawkins? What is a Dawkins-gobbler?
And in many of the post-Warsaw Pact countries, with our very own Orbán leading the way with demonising a word and ideology of which he was a strong proponent back in the day.
Are they socially liberal? The German FDP is considered let's say to the right (the left would say that, I wouldn't really) and have been the natural coalition partner of the conservatives. But only if you consider economic policies and nothing else which is a pretty narrow view. And even then they're pretty moderate and you won't find any climate change deniers or raging anti-immigrant sentiments there. They just have a "let's see if we can solve this problem with more free market first" approach. The other thing is that "right-wing" is a really bad word in Germany, perhaps more so than in other countries and noone wants to be attached to it. Not even the conservatives who of course are at least centre-right by definition.
Ugh, this is exactly why I hate the word. You make it sound like "centrists" are the only reasonable people amid a horde of screaming ideologues, trying in vain to elevate political discussion to a more cultured and nuance level.
Yes, Ï think they're probably the same. No one really calls them right wing either. Just liberals. They're market driven, but hold much the same views on topics like immigration, healthcare, climate etc as other big parties. And yes, right-wing is a bad word here as well. It's pretty much on the same pile as alt-right now.
I was going to say I’m more concerned that a newspaper would base an article on a reddit post that are so often fake for karma. Then remembered it’s the daily mail so...
It's not proven that a couple of drinks while pregnant is harmful to the baby.
There’s also “no known safe amount of alcohol use during pregnancy” per the CDC.
Yeah the provenance of that story is pretty lame. I guess the guy makes decent mocktails if she didn't notice.
Is switching to anal when the woman is pregnant a common thing? Damn I knew there was some reason I wanted kids.Sounds plausible. Guess my son's gonna be a right bender
No idea man, I'm all talk. We didn't have sex after the 5th month since she said she felt like a hippo.
I don't remember any friends with kids raving about all the hot anal they were getting tbh.
#rammingitdownourthroats
