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He's using that name to refer to his penis because he wants to use a sexual joke to wind up a woman. It's sexual harassment.
Get out of it you soft sod.

If he would have replied ‘Go suck a dick’ when she asked his name, that’s not sexual harassment.

To suggest that her mental leap of Hugh Mungus to be a reference to his penis is, is nuts.

Obviously ignoring the fact that she labelled him a ‘token’ or ‘token face’ is far more a racial slur than any perceived penis reference.

That woman is the type of person that society needs to ignore, or tell to calm the fcuk down. She’s a silly little jumped up nonsensical idiot that’s created an incident and caused a scene, impacting a whole room full of people, because she’s acted like a moron.
 
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Us extremist SJW's struggle to tell the difference between you and Trump voters too. Not just Eboue, on this occasion.
That's the problem that. You can't distinguish. Because I think that woman was not sexually harassed, I am a Trump supporter.

Yeah why would anyone think shamans is a trump supporter?
Yeah ignore that I posted a thousand times later that was said just for trolling Sanders fans.
 
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If your post was to convince me of something then the only thing it did was reassure me of how certain sections of the public think.
Lord knows I've tried.

Btw, you'd be amazed how much serious dissent there can be among people inside these "certain sections of the public", but it's no option for me to discuss that inside the political framework you're offering.
 

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Of course it isn’t. It would be many things.

- Rude
- Vulgar
- Offensive
- Nasty
- etc

Not sexual harassment though. Not even remotely close to it either. It’s just the use of a sexual word.
No, the idea, as with the 'Hugh Mungous' line would be to sexually harass a woman. It's a power move where a man uses sex as a threat to a woman he feels threatened by.
 

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No, the idea, as with the 'Hugh Mungous' line would be to sexually harass a woman. It's a power move where a man uses sex as a threat to a woman he feels threatened by.
No. It’s really not. That’s all of your own invention and projection. It’s not a power move. It’s not a dominant vs weaker. It’s not bullying.

You’re allowed to think and feel it. But that doesn’t make you right.

When we start calling bad jokes ‘Sexual Harassment’, the whole house of cards starts to come down.

If there’s a power imbalance in that specific video, the aggressor is the girl filming, shoving a camera in another humans face, baiting. She jumps to ‘Humongous what’. She missed the joke. Either deliberately or by being daft. The harassing is done by the holder of the camera. To suggest the power imbalance is running in the other direction in absolutely insane.
 

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No. It’s really not. That’s all of your own invention and projection. It’s not a power move. It’s not a dominant vs weaker. It’s not bullying.

You’re allowed to think and feel it. But that doesn’t make you right.

When we start calling bad jokes ‘Sexual Harassment’, the whole house of cards starts to come down.

If there’s a power imbalance in that specific video, the aggressor is the girl filming, shoving a camera in another humans face, baiting. She jumps to ‘Humongous what’. She missed the joke. Either deliberately or by being daft. The harassing is done by the holder of the camera. To suggest the power imbalance is running in the other direction in absolutely insane.
And to you.
 

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And to you.
You do realise that you’re now doing exactly what that chick did?

All sense of logic and decorum out the window, reframe a discussion with terms that save face, then double down on detestability by ignoring anything you find difficult.

Step back. Take a breath. Ask yourself who the aggressor is in that video. Then be honest with yourself.
 

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You do realise that you’re now doing exactly what that chick did?

All sense of logic and decorum out the window, reframe a discussion with terms that save face, then double down on detestability by ignoring anything you find difficult.

Step back. Take a breath. Ask yourself who the aggressor is in that video. Then be honest with yourself.
I told you, in three words, you were as entitled to your opinion as I am mine and I get a rant about how I'm throwing decorum out of the window...
 

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I told you, in three words, you were as entitled to your opinion as I am mine and I get a rant about how I'm throwing decorum out of the window...
It wasn’t a rant.

You’ve also drawn a false equivalence. You’re suggesting we both have right on our side. We don’t.
 

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Can't believe Hugh is back with a vengeance. How old is that now? 3 years or more? What's the eta on hula girl's resurrection?

Real talk though, only deranged people would try to claim that calling yourself Hugh Mungous in response to such overt aggression from someone who, unprovoked, decided to harass you while waving a camera in your face, could ever constitute sexual harassment. Even if you remove all that mitigation, the phrase itself isn't sexual harassment in any context.

The vast majority of women would disagree with such a noxious, snowflake overreaction for a start. Although I guess they'd all be waved away as ignorant of their own internalised misogyny.
 

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Am I feck...
Then what are you saying?

Stop hopping from foot to foot and take a position. Don’t just glibly write three pithy words in an attempt to suggest you’re on some moral high ground.

It’s that useless faux-intellectual conversational style that you’d level (validly) at the likes of Shapiro.

Stand for something. Make a point and explain your reasoning.
 

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Then what are you saying?

Stop hopping from foot to foot and take a position. Don’t just glibly write three pithy words in an attempt to suggest you’re on some moral high ground.

It’s that useless faux-intellectual conversational style that you’d level (validly) at the likes of Shapiro.

Stand for something. Make a point and explain your reasoning.
I'm saying I think you are wrong. You are mistaken. You have come to believe things that aren't true.

How many words do you want? I'll break the thesaurus out.
 

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Off Topic, think I've told this before but you've reminded me and I can't help but re-post.

My mate, Michael Jackson, once got gripped by the Police as a teenager and hauled home for 'giving a fake name' when we got questioned for loitering near a pub. The officer asked him for his Mum's name as they approached the front door, the answer to which infuriated the office. Yes, it was Janet.

True story and a full, sincere apology was forthcoming.
That might catch a beating, or even death, from cops in the States.
 

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Free market reacts to what customers want. Ben should be loving that.
 

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So now he’s against the private sector making decisions based on their customer’s wishes? Shouldn’t this be exactly what he wants “the left” to do?
 

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Oh, god, you're not doing the 'it could be a joke about his weight' thing as well?

Why do kids make that joke? Cause it's about penises and kids find that funny.
Of course it could be, several posters had pointed this out to to you, one of them even linked you to the garbage pail kids. To liken that to sexual harassment is incredible.
 

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Racist is the correct word. We know he hates Arabs. I guess another group can be added to the list.
Hmm. Nothing about the above soundbite sounded racist to me, even if it was the perfect summation of an out of touch, nerdy conservative.
 

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Hes pretty intelligent... cant deny that bit. Knows exactly what hes doing.
I suppose he's intelligent in his methods and marketing, I'll give him that. But I question anyone's intelligence if they sincerely believe more "free market" capitalism is the only solution going forward. And then throw in the assertion that he really believes in his own cultural critiques of rap and the like. An articulate buffoon would be apt imo.
 

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I suppose he's intelligent in his methods and marketing, I'll give him that. But I question anyone's intelligence if they sincerely believe more "free market" capitalism is the only solution going forward. And then throw in the assertion that he really believes in his own cultural critiques of rap and the like. An articulate buffoon would be apt imo.
There is no sincere belief. What he does believe is he can take any "weird" view point and back it up with his debate skills. That's what he prides himself on I'm sure.
 

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There is no sincere belief. What he does believe is he can take any "weird" view point and back it up with his debate skills. That's what he prides himself on I'm sure.
If true, might you know what his actual beliefs are? His positions in debate seem to be pretty consistent.
 

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There is no sincere belief. What he does believe is he can take any "weird" view point and back it up with his debate skills. That's what he prides himself on I'm sure.
I tend to avoid him but isn't he just a sophist? I saw a video recommended on youtube where he was talking about debates and how to 'trap' your enemy and it all just sounded like such bullshit. Truth isn't anywhere near the agenda, it's just about 'owning' and destroying' your 'enemy'.