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I tend to avoid him but isn't he just a sophist? I saw a video recommended on youtube where he was talking about debates and how to 'trap' your enemy and it all just sounded like such bullshit. Truth isn't anywhere near the agenda, it's just about 'owning' and destroying' your 'enemy'.
Exactly. He's all about winning debates and stuff. He's good at that. It ain't about what's right to wrong
 

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I tend to avoid him but isn't he just a sophist? I saw a video recommended on youtube where he was talking about debates and how to 'trap' your enemy and it all just sounded like such bullshit. Truth isn't anywhere near the agenda, it's just about 'owning' and destroying' your 'enemy'.
That's surely his technical approach, but at the same time he has a firm ideological agenda tailored to the present-day American "conservative movement". These two things go together quite naturally, of course. It probably also mirrors personal beliefs of his, but it's always hard to tell with demagogues.
 

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Hmm. Nothing about the above soundbite sounded racist to me, even if it was the perfect summation of an out of touch, nerdy conservative.
If he hadn't already proven to be a racist, maybe, just maybe, I might give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. But this man has proven intolerance over and over and over again in his career so I'm not willing to give him any benefit of doubt.
 

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If he hadn't already proven to be a racist, maybe, just maybe, I might give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. But this man has proven intolerance over and over and over again in his career so I'm not willing to give him any benefit of doubt.
Yeah I'm sure, I'm just speaking for that clip alone. It comes across more ignorant and out of touch to me.
 

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Exactly. He's all about winning debates and stuff. He's good at that. It ain't about what's right to wrong
Has he won a debate with anyone substantive? Actually has he ever debated anyone substantive? The only person I recall is Andrew Niel and he crumbled.
 

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Yeah I'm sure, I'm just speaking for that clip alone. It comes across more ignorant and out of touch to me.
Yeah, I find it distasteful on many levels. I mean it's just an opportunity to belittle a genre of music which is an extension of a culture that he doesn't belong to. Since when has rap or hip-hop needed to be gramatically correct? Never. Anyway it doesn't surprise me coming from that guy.
 

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Has he won a debate with anyone substantive? Actually has he ever debated anyone substantive? The only person I recall is Andrew Niel and he crumbled.
My reply to this last time spurred a 10 page debate so I won't talk about the type of people he debates to win and gain more followers.
 

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But yeah, he's like a mad doctor who pics on 1st graders to prove his techniques are right and backed by science
The equivalent of Andy Carroll signing for Albion Robers and being lauded as a footballing genius because he scores a hat-trick every weekend in the Scottish fourth tier.
 

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My reply to this last time spurred a 10 page debate so I won't talk about the type of people he debates to win and gain more followers.
To be fair to you I knew what you were getting at but sometimes the caf goes into a frenzy if you don’t delicately convey certain types of opinions. Them neon haired overweight gals yelling extremist opinions are a real thing. In fact, that’s what I literally saw in one of his videos where he “tOtaLlY oWnEd” the feminist and proceeded to be an insufferable cnut. He probably ate his own farts for dinner that night as a celebration.
 

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Equating a Harvard degree to intelligence is like equating owning Gucci shoes to being rich. And to be quite honest, feck Harvard.
 

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Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
Intellectually, he's a moron. And he's literally filled with barely concealed hatred and vitriol for people less economically fortunate than himself.

He always seems like a really troubled character to me. Kind of like a real life Patrick Bateman, but less charming.

I dread to think what he gets up to in his private life... genuinely.
 

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Equating a Harvard degree to intelligence is like equating owning Gucci shoes to being rich. And to be quite honest, feck Harvard.
I 2nd that. All the shady shits in admission and grading drive me nut how people cant look past the prestige and reputation to see it for what it actually is.
 

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Intellectually, he's a moron. And he's literally filled with barely concealed hatred and vitriol for people less economically fortunate than himself.

He always seems like a really troubled character to me. Kind of like a real life Patrick Bateman, but less charming.

I dread to think what he gets up to in his private life... genuinely.
Imagine him trying to be romantic with his wife. I bet she cheats on him.
 

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Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
Imagine him trying to be romantic with his wife. I bet she cheats on him.
People who are as fecked up, lacking empathy and resentful as Shapiro clearly is are rarely 'normal' in that department...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if in years to come he's found out to be a less than savoury character in areas other than his 'political' outlook.

On a purely instinctive level, there's something 'off' about him - and that's not because I disagree with a lot of what he says - I disagree with pretty much all right-wing commentators (and many left-wing ones also), but I don't get the same feeling as with Shapiro.
 

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People who are as fecked up, lacking empathy and resentful as Shapiro clearly is are rarely 'normal' in that department...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if in years to come he's found out to be a less than savoury character in areas other than his 'political' outlook.

On a purely instinctive level, there's something 'off' about him - and that's not because I disagree with a lot of what he says - I disagree with pretty much all right-wing commentators (and many left-wing ones also), but I don't get the same feeling as with Shapiro.
Probably his lack of a nasal passage.
 

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I am not a fan of making fun of his nasal voice or status as a loser back in the day (because it's true he really was bullied and it isnt a joke)

Let's not stoop to his level. Anyone of us could be bullied back in the day so that means nothing. The guy is a loser NOW so let's keep it at that.
 

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Intellectually, he's a moron. And he's literally filled with barely concealed hatred and vitriol for people less economically fortunate than himself.

He always seems like a really troubled character to me. Kind of like a real life Patrick Bateman, but less charming.

I dread to think what he gets up to in his private life... genuinely.
He's a lock to be an anime porn masturbator.
 

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I am not a fan of making fun of his nasal voice or status as a loser back in the day (because it's true he really was bullied and it isnt a joke)

Let's not stoop to his level. Anyone of us could be bullied back in the day so that means nothing. The guy is a loser NOW so let's keep it at that.
He sounds like a muppet, and he's about as tall as one.