I don’t think he is and his comments about Delph when he joined makes me think we will bring someone else in but remembering deadline day is next week is making me cack it a bit.
Idrissa Gueye is one of the signings of the season
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It depends if he is looking to play any differently, or if he still wants that Gueye type in there. Either way, if you lose him you're still probably 1 CM short.
Providing you do replace Gueye, I think you're 1 or 2 forwards away from being a real force.
A more all-round striker might be better for you than a player like Zaha. As much as I rate Calvert-Lewin, he probably isn't going to get enough goals and would be better suited as a backup.
If you managed to replace Gueye, got Zaha in and a top central striker, I think the top 6 need to be looking over their shoulders.
I think the Kean rumours are serious so we are looking to get in a striker. He's a risk due to his age but so was Lukaku and look how well that turned out for us.
At 19, if he can handle playing for Juve, being targetted for racial abuse and being criticised by his own captain for being racially abused (!), I think his character is tough enough to succeed anywhere!
He would be a great signing for anyone.
Pity for you lot as he was very good
He has scored goals for Juve. So I think he will be fine here. I am just surprised they are selling him and not loaning him. In fact I am surprised he is not getting regular gametime.
Gana started off really well, then got an injury and be the time he started playing again we were in turmoil, bottom of the league, sacked Sherwood and basically no chance of staying up.
He was regular for the season and was good at winning the ball but we had so little upfront it was all ineffective. You could see he was a good player but playing in a terrible time for the club, same as Jordan Amavi (who broke his leg that November) and Jordan Veretout who've gone on to have good careers back in europe.
Interesting thing here is we signed him to replace Delph and now Delph has seemingly been signed by Everton to replace Gana. Problem is Delph isn't a DM, he didn't play that role for us or Man. City so not sure Everton will get away with a two man midfield of him and Andre Gomes if that is the plan. Ideal would be keeping and Gana so you have middle trio of Gana-Delph-Gomes and then Glyfi in number 10 position behind Richarlison and someone else. Then Everton is probably getting top 6.
It's a tough one. Everton was a good move for him after our demise but ultimately playing for PSG is pretty much a dream for any French/African stretching back to when George Weah was at his pomp there in mid 90s. Even more so now they've become a moneybags club. If he was still 25 like when we signed him he might've given you an extra year but certainly now or never to move to CL club.
They'd need a hell of a lot more than that to knock on that door.
I'm not exactly sure how we'll use him (my guess is in a midfield 2 with Verratti) but the word is he's a personnal choice from Tuchel so I trust him. Hopefully he can transition smoothly to PSG and has some good years left despite turning 30 next month.
30m€ is a good deal for Everton to get a younger suitable replacement.
30m€ is a good deal for Everton to get a younger suitable replacement.
They started last season and ended last season pretty well. After losing at Arsenal in late September they won 5 out of 7 premier league games and got a 0-0 at Chelsea.
They ended last season with clean sheets at home to Arsenal, Man. United, Chelsea and Liverpool and a good 2-2 at Spurs on the final day. The problem was going into a three month meltdown after that unlucky loss at Anfield.
When Mourinho was sacked after the Liverpool defeat in mid December, Man. United were 6th and only two points ahead of Everton. Problem was Everton then barely won a game until March and Man. United won 9 straight in the league so that was the end of that.
I'd say 54 points was still solid first season for Everton. Problem is now the bar has been raised not just to win the league or finish second but to even finish 6th. As we know Man. United, Arsenal and Chelsea were poor for chunks of last season. They all still got more than 65 points.
In 04/05 Everton finished 4th with just 61 points (6th was Bolton with 58). In 08/09 we finished 6th with 62 points. Spurs finished 5th with the same points total a season later.
Now either the top 6 as a whole have massively improved (which is totally at odds with how poor 3rd-6th were at end of last season) or the mid table and bottom half clubs have got much worse butI do think teams like Everton and Leicester (Wolves will drop points because of Europa) should be challenging for 6th much more than last season. They both have some really good players in their 11s, at least as good as in many of the top 6. Mentality holds them back far more than talent.
I'm never a fan of this logic. So what? Every team has their good and bad periods throughout the season. Can we just say that we (Spurs) played amazingly for the first half of the season and were in the title race so next season we're a title contender? No, because you judge a team over the course of a season. It's more likely they're inconsistent next year and have good and bad periods (like most teams) than it is they suddenly nail it and challenge the top six.
The bold is straight up not true at all. Everton have some decent players but most of them wouldn't get near a top six side and they're at their level. I'd probably say Gueye and Digne start for us but that's about it, and the former is a push, especially if we continue to strengthen the midfield. Otherwise you just have a load of players who would be squad players at best for the top six teams. We saw with Lukaku & Sigurdsson that sometimes players who thrive at players in upper mid table don't make that step up.
Herrera and Gueye being signed for your team makes me think you're trying to be a bit less of a 'soft touch' in Europe. Far too often you have crumbled in second legs after leading. Gueye is brilliant at breaking up play and Herrera will provide great energy in games like this. I think the hope is that you can win games when it comes down to a fight and when you have to defend leads.
I think we will see a much more balanced and solid PSG with these additions. If Neymar and Mbappe are still at it and fully focused, I think you'll go much closer in the Champion's League this time.
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Don’t know the stats from last season but the season before Herrera and Gueye went head to head with Kante and those 3 were posting by far the greatest defensive contribution numbers in the league so if Gueye and Herrera still have that sort of energy left imagine PSG becoming a bit of a nightmare to play against.
Little surprised they wouldn’t move for Sangare if they are after a tough tackler who will break up play for them.
Little surprised they wouldn’t move for Sangare if they are after a tough tackler who will break up play for them.
Posted this in the twitter thread but valid here too. Gueye has been the undisputed best CDM in the league with Kante for 3-4 years now. He consistently tops every defensive midfielder stat charts which demonstrates his consistency throughout a season and as someone who watched him every week he was absolutely crucial to our defensive structure. He's quality and will be great for PSG in the CL which is where they needed someone like him to tighten up their defense in the latter stages. We know they're able to blow teams away in Ligue 1 with ease but they've always lacked security at the back in the CL. Gueye is perfect for trying to plug that gap. I reckon that's also why Herrera has came in. You need two players that will give you the energy and defensive nous in those big CL games.
Posting this in here to keep discussion out of the twitter thread but i'd say that he's more of a box-to-box type player. More so than Gueye. Gueye is capable of getting forward but he excels as someone that shields the back four/middle of the pitch and there aren't many better in world football than him at doing it, if any at the moment. Fernandinho is better at other parts of his game but he's not at the same level as Gueye defensively.
Please explain this title... Not sure how it relates to the player. Good but that's about it? Or am I missing something
The date of the thread?
Personally I think Fernandinho is better all round, probably helped by having vastly superior players surrounding him.
He’s turning 30?! For whatever reason I thought that he was like 24 or something.
Ah just skipped to the last page. Why's it been resurrected then.
Anyways I'm just being lazy and not reading, sorry.
Yep. So many people think that. I think from his playing style he can play into his mid 30s but 30m was a decent price for him at that age.
Couldn't find another thread on him and didn't think there would be much traffic around the signing to warrant a new threadbut as an Everton fan him moving to PSG is a big shift in play style for us perhaps and could be the difference in our season if he isn't replaced properly.
No need to be sorry. I simply suspected that it might be the source of your confusion.
So it'll be Verratti, Herrera and Gueye in midfield for PSG?
That's probably the dirtiest midfield in Europe
seems they're following the Liverpool model of 3 world class forwards and a workhorse mid.
That's probably the dirtiest midfield in Europe
seems they're following the Liverpool model of 3 world class forwards and a workhorse mid.The athleticism involved in football nowadays makes me think that this shift is probably the best way to go.So it'll be Verratti, Herrera and Gueye in midfield for PSG?
That's probably the dirtiest midfield in Europe
Got it. Any potential replacements you guys have in mind if he goes? If I recall a bit, he was very robust and almost enforcer like kind of player, so something of that kinda mould? Or have I misread the kind of player he was.
I hope you and @Havak are right but I don't think that was PSG's problem last season. There is a big difference between playing for Everton and PSG and among top clubs sacrificing creativity for more steel in midfield is a tough tradeoff that few are doing.
We'll see in september how we set up.
Obviously there will always be a place for true ballers like Xavi/Scholes/Alonso/Pirlo etc, but yes with the pressing game these days it seems more important to have that ability first, then just keep it simple with a few forward passes and let them do the magic. Not sure we could get away with that yet though.
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Always been a fabulous player.
Monster today, that trio with Verratti and Marquinos was embarrassing Real for most of the first half. Excellent pressing should have lead to another goal if Di Maria wasn't such a dickhead
Everton should have demanded double at least, let him go cheap.
Why we weren't in for him I'll never know. 2nd best in the world at that role after Kante.
You got slaughtered on here for suggesting him as a signing over the summer, because his name wasn't Kai Havertz or Saul Niguez.
Was he this good at Villa?
My thoughts on Gueye have been clear for a while now. Why we didn't go all out for him, I will never know.
I understand that we're moving in a different direction in regards to age of players, but some players are worth breaking the rules for, and to me, Gueye would have been one of them.
Gueye has still got at least three good seasons in him.
I understand that we're moving in a different direction in regards to age of players, but some players are worth breaking the rules for, and to me, Gueye would have been one of them.
Gueye has still got at least three good seasons in him.
He was excellent.
He started off well for us but then was injured for a bit and well our season didn't take long to turn into a total disaster. Was smart him going to Everton rather than just going back to France or somehwere else random on loan like say Jean Seri of Fulham going to play in Turkey.
He had a release clause in his deal for 7m so I presume he had similar in his Everton deal given the lowish fee (although he is 29 now).
Type of sensible signing they will make more and more with Leonardo in charge, as opposed to fancy names.
He's a signing that makes sense when you're in PSGs position. We wont be anywhere near challenging for minimum two years. Signing Gueye would've been shortsighted and repeating the mistakes of the past.