Matt007a
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There is no evidence to suggest OGS is even interested in such a role. He wouldn't be right for it anyway.
I keep seeing this but it's not like Ole has personally scouted James, he was recommended by Giggs. AWB and Maguire weren't exactly unknown and it's not like he's pulled a masterstroke of a bargain, the pair cost close to £150m.It’s not romanticism, it’s taken Ole only his first transfer window to identify not only the right players to bring in but also ones to get one. I have no doubt he will continue to remove our long overdue average players if given the chance and bring the right ones in. You might say he’s only done what we can all see but none off our previous managers managed to this so quickly.
The issue I have is his lack of coaching ability.
I agree. But I think he knows how transfers would get done too. I dont think it's as ridiculous an idea. Better than him being manager!With all due respect, anyone knows where we want to head, it's the "how to get there" that none of us know.
Well of course not. No one should be really ruled out but our owners and Woody need to decide if the guy they want to put in charge has good idea on how to build a squad and give the club an identity on the pitch through the players and coaches he wants to hire. If Ole is that man with a vision and can present a valid strategy to get us to the top then give him the job.So your logic for not wanting United to appoint an ex player with no previous experience in a DOF role is highlighting Barcelona appointing an ex player with no previous experience in a DOF role?
Most of the successful DOFs have been ex players (Txiki, Monchi, Zorc, Overmars) with little or no experience in DOF roles prior to taking their most successful role.
DOF is not the same as management, you're not held accountable for the coaching or setting up the team. You pick players and have a set philosophy of what fits and ole has shown evidence of this.
Everyone belittles the signings he made as being the obvious choices or ones we had scouted by previous managers. If that's the case then why did Moyes, LVG and Mou have such patchy transfer windows if all great players are so obvious. Why have the players brought in in the last 7 years largely been unmotivated flops who have failed to settle.
Ole is a crap manager but when people are calling for him for DOF its not out of delusion or romanticism, its out of seeing the first positive transfer window in a long time. It was far from perfect and we should have signed at least a starting striker and midfielder but it felt like the first time we were weeding out bad influences in the dressing room and bringing in players who were committed. I like that side of what Ole is doing.
I don't care if he's not given the DOF role either, he could be paid off today and asked to leave and I would be fine with that. I just don't think you need to be a proven successful coach in order to do well in that role because it is absolutely nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with identifying players with the right temperament and profile to fit the club.
IMO, he's just offered himself to us.https://www.skysports.com/football/...ampos-the-transfer-chief-with-the-midas-touch
Louis Campos looks like an interesting choice.
First I've heard of him but his track-record speaks volumes. Do you know more about him?IMO, he's just offered himself to us.
What great prestige it would be to help bring a MASSIVE club back from the ashes! You can see the job at United would be more about prestige than money.
Ed is a genius, make a mess so big that people offer themselves (work for free) to clean this messhttps://www.skysports.com/football/...ampos-the-transfer-chief-with-the-midas-touch
Louis Campos looks like an interesting choice.
I know just as much as everyone else really. That video does a good job of showing how good he's been. I know he worked at Real with Jose too. And was a massive part of that Monaco team. No surprise as soon as he left Monaco, things started to go down for them.First I've heard of him but his track-record speaks volumes. Do you know more about him?
Already a thread on him: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/luis-campos-the-man-behind-the-monaco-story.428666/First I've heard of him but his track-record speaks volumes. Do you know more about him?
Ok thanksAlready a thread on him: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/luis-campos-the-man-behind-the-monaco-story.428666/
Interesting for sure. Read a bit more about him just now and he could very well be a great aquisition for us. Don't see Woodward relinquishing power though.I know just as much as everyone else really. That video does a good job of showing how good he's been. I know he worked at Real with Jose too. And was a massive part of that Monaco team. No surprise as soon as he left Monaco, things started to go down for them.
But as I said earlier, I believe he wants our job. Quite unusual for a guy like him to talk to Sky like that. He knows what he's doing and saying when doing that interview. He wants the fans talking...like we are doing now.
Yea, he would be a very good start. Someone with enough experience to start the set up at United for the very first time. Ultimately I want Mitchell but he has recently signed a new contract with RB, so someone like Campos would be a very good option.Interesting for sure. Read a bit more about him just now and he could very well be a great aquisition for us.
Because he's been managing football teams for the last 9 years. He has loads of experience compared to Giggs.I really don't understand how the same people who thought Giggs was too inexperienced when they sacked LVG turned around and appointed Solskjær without a second thought.
But nothing at this level for goodness sake.Because he's been managing football teams for the last 9 years. He has loads of experience compared to Giggs.
Romanticism is the main selling point of Manchester United.The stupidity of some Man United fans will never amaze me. All these rubbish sentiments with the past, ex-players and United way romanticism is why Man United are not advancing as a club. Can anyone have suggested that Moyes or Jose or LVG be made DOF? Hell no. Why Ole then? Because he bought Maguire wanted by Jose earlier or James recommended by Giggs? If it were not Ole, anyone suggesting this would have been labeled a lunatic.
Ole has been managing for 10 years and you have people still casting aspersions on his credentials as a manager in the first place let alone to be the DOF of the supposed biggest club in the world with literally no experience whatsoever. Does that in any way look like a sound decision? Give me a break with this nonsense!
Did Sir Alex?But nothing at this level for goodness sake.
What he says about Mbappe has just made me say wow at solving both the issue with his family being unhappy and plotting the correct course for his developmenthttps://www.skysports.com/football/...ampos-the-transfer-chief-with-the-midas-touch
Louis Campos looks like an interesting choice.
I had never heard of him until I read the article, afterwards I searched around the internet for more information about him and much of what I read was very impressive. Seems to know what he's doing as is very much liked and respected by both colleagues and players.What he says about Mbappe has just made me say wow at solving both the issue with his family being unhappy and plotting the correct course for his development
"The day I arrived in Monaco - Kylian wasn't happy at the club. I remember meeting his family and the family saying he is not staying, he's not playing, we don't understand. So I watched him play for 10 minutes and I thought, 'He is an amazing player, he needs to stay in the clubʼ.
"So I put him in the B team and within two months he made a difference. So he soon needed to be in the first team. In my opinion he's the next best player in the world."
Glad I wasn't the only one who hadn't heard of him, I haven't really looked into who would be good given we probably wont be getting one interesting to know he's well liked by multiple groups of people within the club he's quite young as well. I also liked what he said here:I had never heard of him until I read the article, afterwards I searched around the internet for more information about him and much of what I read was very impressive. Seems to know what he's doing as is very much liked and respected by both colleagues and players.
Read that article as well, he makes a lot of sense in many interviews. I agree with you that it might have gone differently if he was employed with us during Mourinhos tenure, we'll never know. What I don't understand is why we don't employ people like him who clearly have a deeper understanding about what defines talent and how to best devolop it.Glad I wasn't the only one who hadn't heard of him, I haven't really looked into who would be good given we probably wont be getting one interesting to know he's well liked by multiple groups of people within the club he's quite young as well. I also liked what he said here:
https://www.skysports.com/football/...iend-jose-mourinhos-struggles-at-old-trafford
Makes you wonder a little what may have happened had he been here during some of Jose's transfer windows, being his close friend. Would he have been able to cool the tensions in his final transfer window, which was one of the key things that ultimately led to Jose's demise and perceived "sabotage?" And also perhaps aided his man management of the players?
Idiotic transfer policy that will be proven so in time. Imo In 3-5 years when we see where Maddison, Rice, Longstaff and James etc peak we'll realise just how dumb it was to put most of our eggs in that basket. Even SAF didn't buy a British coreAs for ole. I don’t think Brexit FC is he successful way forward. So no thanks, remove him for good.
Ed sounds like trumpEd is a genius, make a mess so big that people offer themselves (work for free) to clean this mess
I dont understand either. if you look at the money aspect, a DoF couple potentially save the glazers a lot of the throw away money too!Read that article as well, he makes a lot of sense in many interviews. I agree with you that it might have gone differently if he was employed with us during Mourinhos tenure, we'll never know. What I don't understand is why we don't employ people like him who clearly have a deeper understanding about what defines talent and how to best devolop it.
Is it a power trip you think? Because I can't explain it otherwise.I dont understand either. if you look at the money aspect, a DoF couple potentially save the glazers a lot of the throw away money too!
Getting rid of players is easy. Seriously. You dont need a rinus michel to do that. A phone call to a few agents, or a post it note that x is for sale.I think the idea comes because some people are praising his signing and getting rid of a bunch of players. So it really depends on what the owner and himself want for the team, like if he was appointed because of his status as club legend (and thus fans will be more patinet with bad results under him) and ordered to purge the squad then it would have made more sense to put him in a directive position where he could have some input about the transfer policy.
Personally I don't find the idea as absurd assuming he has the best interest for the club and is interested in that role. For example Zidane was first made a consultant/adviser for the directive board, then a sports director and after that he started his preparation as a manager.