So our net spend is the reason why we're hovering above the relegation zone?
Ole Gunnar Solskjær needs more time and respect at Manchester United
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Then he shouldn't keep coming out with how happy he is with that situation. It comes across as him wanting to keep his job rather than welfare of the club.
Do you want him to say publicly we’re shit and going to get relegated?
Many reasons why we are where we are, I was just answering someone’s argument that Ole has spent £150m without mentioning how much he has brought in.
So us being relegated is Ole's surprise for United fans. Not that I think we will be. He said some of these players were shit last season, but now they are the bees knees. He wasn't talking about Fellaini as he had already gone, Darmian never played anyway, he wanted to keep Herrera. So it appears everything was Lukaku's fault.
How does that work?
The sale of players, it’s not rocket science pal.
Well it probably is not but neither is maths to a 100. You do realise that the only decent fee we've gotten this transfer window was for Lukaku and it was less than what we've spent on Maguire, right? I doubt that if we add fee for Darmian and loan fees for Smalling and Sanchez (if there is any), we'll be able to surpass Maguire's fee. Maybe when we add Fellaini's fee, sure, but then we're yet to cover AWB and James' fees.
I did say nearly, not actually neutral. There is also the wages saved on the likes of Herrera and Sanchez.
Ya we’ll definitely get relegated.
Yeah its not as if we have 5 wins in our last 21 games.Ya we’ll definitely get relegated.
He’s manager of Manchester United....He deserves to be judged month after month....We respected him as a player,but if he underperforms then obviously the fans have every right to express their displeasure...
This type of self-righteous comment infuriates me. NO WE ARE NOT. We are just a football team like they are. Difference is they have standards and accountability and will not put up with any bullshit like 'The United Way and we give managers time' rubbish. Guess why they have been more successful than us at least since Fergie left? Cos u know you can't be a shit manager and survive there. Only Fergie used to paper over the cracks. As long as we keep thinking we are 'better than that' as far as sliding into mediocrity is concerned, we are not catching up with the big boys anytime soon.
I didn’t realise we have played 21 league games.
I keep seeing this comparison with Klopp first 38 matches and OGS first 38 matches and how it’s similar.
Do we have a comparison of OGS and Klopp first 14 matches and their recent matches?
I feel this comparison is a spin from Manchester United when in reality his wins were from the interim days but after its been losses and draws while Klopp it was the opposite?
Do we have a comparison of OGS and Klopp first 14 matches and their recent matches?
I feel this comparison is a spin from Manchester United when in reality his wins were from the interim days but after its been losses and draws while Klopp it was the opposite?
Did anyone say we did?
Correct me if I’m wrong but you mentioned relegation and I think relegation is based off the full season not your last 21 games (which you also mentioned ) which includes domestic cup and European which doesn’t come into play in domestic league.
I see what you say, but there is a difference in seeing good signs and good play. I won’t speak for him on this, but to me, I saw several signs of promising attacking play in preseason, against Chelsea and also the next few games. I saw some good attacking play. The last four or five games, barring the first twenty minutes against Astana, I’ve seen very few good signs, and no good play.
I put this last part mostly down to not-yet-good-enough players low on confidence with little relations trying to apply tactics they don’t know by heart yet.
Jesus mate. You hate Ole, we get it, but that bolded part is not opinion, its flat out a lie. Sanchez is simply done at the top level, same with Valencia, Smalling had been here for years and have always been mediocre, Darmian was dreadful and Lukaku, while admittedly a decent goalscorer was overweight, unmotivated and unprofessional and Fellaini was mostly elbows and nasty challenges.Losing Herrera was terrible, but when he got here it was too late
Ole is gone mate. Deluded to the point where he really believes in what he is saying but it is bull shit. The players are giving everything... Really? He was happy with the summer transfer window? Ye... We have a good culture.... The players are working towards something.. The only thing i see our players working towards is the Championship.
Ole may have caused the problem himself with that comment from last season, there are players who know he doesn't want them and he is having to play them. I think lack of confidence will not be helping, most will be giving everything, but they are rushing chances when we do get them. He has gone from bad cop at the end of last season to ultra optimistic.
Either way, it's shit...or a reason to wake up and smell the coffee.
You ever heard of the word "form"? Regardless of the differing competitions, we've displayed relegation form across all our games. You want to exclude non-league games? Go ahead. You want to look at this season? Sure, why not - we're 1 fecking point from the relegation zone. Two weeks ago, we were beaten by a team that will most likely be playing in the championship next season.
It seems that Ole’s ardent supporters are becoming as deluded as the cult of a Mourinho fans were last year.
In the face of many disgusting insults it’s easy to defend him.
If people were calling him a gremlin faced cnut or something like that I’d agree with you. But all I see is people calling him a shit manager that’s massively out of his depth.
That’s not an insult, that’s facts.
Don’t mind anyone saying their opinion but some have crossed the line and should be ashamed of themselves. The guy what scored the goal to clinch the treble being called a shithouse and worse by united fans on a united forum. Disgraceful.
Ole's task is keeping these players onside, they are at the moment. If results keep on as they are we all know what they can be like. A good result today will help him no end.
Win today and we’re 5 points off top 4, but hey you’re a glass half empty kind of guy.
Stranger things have happened.
But come on, in my mind there's literally 0.01% chance of that happening. I think if we played them 1000 times we'd lose 900 and draw 99.
Get on betfair and lay United. You could offer two or three times better odds on us winning than anyone else so people will snap your hands off, all while it still being an amazing opportunity in your mind as we'll actually be about 100 times less likely than that to win.
Very sad to me that you think there is no difference between the 'nouveau riche' like Chelsea, the circus at Real and our own historic club - like I said, I do not want our club to becoming anything like those clubs. There are clubs we can learn from though, Barca and Bayern for example
They sure don't tolerate mediocrity and that is what we do in abundance. That was my whole point. No doubting the fact that we are more prestigious but they are more ambitious currently than we are. Look at Sarri for instance, if he was our coach, you would have people clamouring that he is so good and we shouldn't let go but Chelsea didn't find him a good fit and I bet you if Lampard does not show tangible progression on the pitch, they would fire him too like they did Di Matteo. None of the club legend and Chelsea way thing which is a religion for some on here.
You wouldn’t last long in the gambling industry.
Just look at his lineup for today, absolutely shocking lack of quality despite millions already spent. Ole is way out of his depth here, regardless of whether more blame is to be placed on Woodward or the Glazers this simply can't go on. This is the man we want to back? Give him more time? No... Get a real manager in, please.
this kind of crap belongs in the Matchday thread - today's performance will buy Ole more time so get behind the team instead of moaning!
There is no Chelsea way of things or if there is then it is firing managers regularly - firing managers regularly is not any kind of sign of ambition.
Ole has to change formation from now on. We don't have the personnel to play 4-3-3. Today it appeared 3-5-2 but was actually 5-3-2.We have to admit we are not a very good side and cannot go toe to with the top teams.
so 3-5-2 or easily switchable 5-3-2 is the way forward. it also helps Lindelhof who is not very reliable.
so 3-5-2 or easily switchable 5-3-2 is the way forward. it also helps Lindelhof who is not very reliable.
Agreed, I would love to post it in there but as I need likes on my comments I fear that will be a long time yet