He needs to go, in fact he needs to do the honourable thing and step down. Not even 5 years will make of him a great manager.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær needs more time and respect at Manchester United
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Just saw this now, and read the op. Brave man.
I’m not saying he’s Fergie or anything but a throwback on how bad we were when Fergie arrived.
'United belongs to those of us who go every bloody week and not to people with big bank balances'
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I remember very well those years. Luckily for Fergie there were no fans posting on forums..
There were protests in the stands though, luckily the board didn’t listen to us
Luckily for Fergie the board also knew he was a good coach from previous achievements.
Fergie was a great manager and deserved the time to rebuild United. Ole is shite and time is not going to make him a better manager.
They had just given.him an extra 5m to spend over the previous season after convincing the board that spending 1.5 to 2 m per season is not enough.
He signed Pallister, Ince and Danny Wallace from Southampton with those 5m.
But the performances earlier in the season were horrible especially Pally in the Derby.
Glad you can predict the future ..lottery numbers please ?
If Fergie was sacked after 5 years "achieving nothing", I m not sure today people will be referring to him as a great manager, south of the border. He ll be on par with Dundee United s. Jim Mc Lean.
Stop comparing. It’s just not the same and lazy. We could have this argument for every manager that fails here. Where does it end.
Pally was really skinny when he joined wasn't he?
Very skinny. He beefed up by time
Why not? Can I not agree with you?
It's the easiest prediction someone can make. Ole is just not a good manager.
Because it’s absolute rubbish!! There was a dozen players classed the next Maradona until Messi. These things are stupid arguments.
Time will tell won’t it
Well anyone except Moyes, Mourinho and LvG - who between wasted £500 mill on crap
Fair point.
The performances against Alkmaar, Rochdale, and Newcastle were some of the worst I have seen so it seems that we are going backwards. I think that Ole is safe for a couple of months but if we are placed 10th-15th after Christmas he will be under immense pressure.
Weren't you the guy though who was saying how Lingard's 98% of play without the ball makes him some kind of elite modern footballing phenomenon? Just bringing it up for context of your views.
We recovered most of the money on Lukaku and will make a profit when Pogba probably leaves next summer. Zlatan was a success on a free, Sanchez was not.
Nevertheless, the three transfers this summer and Ole's first months in charge last winter are the positives for me, but we can't have a manager who avarages 1 point per game. That has to change when Pogba and Martial return or he will be gone.
Thanks, saved me from reading that mess.
Bringing Fergie in Ole's discussions to say he deserves more time is honestly ridiculous I don't even know how can some say it with straight face without laughing themselves on it.
Yet two of them won trophies and had a couple of CL qualifications whereas Ole, the second coming of Fergie, and his incredible three signings have us sitting one point above the relegation zone.
We should all apply for the managerial position cause if Fergie can do it... then we all can.
Incey definitely can.
Fergie was given 5 years, Ole has not been in charge for 1 year. And no one is saying that he should be given 5 years either....
Neither of them came in half way through a season to take over a team in a mess of which he got us into a position to qualify for the champions league remarkably. Ole hasn’t had a full season to win a trophy yet also unless you expected him to win the champions league last season. 8 points between us and the top four, a few wins and things could look very different.
I think for those comparing giving time to Ole with giving time to Ferguson, my view is it was a different era. At an elite club these days to some extent you should be expected to hit the ground running like Lampard or Klopp. Klopp's results weren't great but he had a system with the wrong parts and got to a Europa league final.
There's an argument Ole deserved his chance after the run we went on when he arrived, but it was dumb to make the appointment before the end of the season.
However, if you factor in end of last season's form, some of the decisions made and now the form at the start of this season, alongside Ole's record at Cardiff, you would have to be the most optimistic of people to not be very worried. No more time for me, why bother dragging it out?
There's an argument Ole deserved his chance after the run we went on when he arrived, but it was dumb to make the appointment before the end of the season.
However, if you factor in end of last season's form, some of the decisions made and now the form at the start of this season, alongside Ole's record at Cardiff, you would have to be the most optimistic of people to not be very worried. No more time for me, why bother dragging it out?
Are you saying if you don't see instant results we should start sacking managers every 6 months?
There were more than that, there were protests and people shouting in the stadium. I was only a child of 9 years old, but I remember my father always liked him and never wanted him out. Today when I ask my father why he still had faith in fergie 1990 but not Ole now, he say that Fergie had already success in other clubs before united and had already been a European champion with a small club like Aberdeen, he was something special.
In the post 1999 period I remember a particular poster on MEN forum slagging Fergie saying he s done and calling him all sort of names. If I m not wrong her user was Mary - from Sale. Some of the posts were hilarious such as when someone asked her if Fergie ran over her cat
)van Gaal took over a squad that finished 7th - a huge shock to everyone involved with the club. He bought Blind, Herrera, Rojo and di Maria (+Falcao loan) and finished 4th - and had it not been for the garbage form ( 3 or 4 games) at the end of the season, we'd have finished 2nd. Ole just spent £150m after having inherited a squad that finished 2nd and made it to the FA cup final - got rid of some of the most important contributors over the last 6 years and now has us below the following:
Leicester
Palace
West Ham
Burnley
Bournemouth
Wolves
Everton
Villa
and = to Sheffield United and Brighton.
We are closer to the relegation zone than top 4.
Last year Jose was literally sabotaging the club and he was still able to get us to win games and score goals.
Don't think I have seen one Ole supporter who can actually make coherent arguments or not sound stupid in every other post.
Not only do they set the bar lower every other game but they also constantly lie about other side's expectations.
This boggles my mind. How can we accept that we are in this position? If it was any other manager that didn't play for the club, we wouldn't be happy with how the team is performing.
He probably wouldn't have ever been made permanent, if he hadn't played for the club.
This time next season it'll be "as long as we make the play-offs, he should stay another year".
Ole just spent £150m? It nearly ended up a neutral spend if you include Fellaini leaving also.
That s what's wrong. This is not being pro or against Ole.