Never knew that fact! That’s actually insane.
The jury is for sure still out on Joao Felix but Bernardo Silva is a magician. If Ronaldo was a few years younger I would like our odds of capturing more trophies but once he is gone I am not too sure where the goals will come from. Maybe Felix will turn into a Star but if not then we have an issue
Could you quote one or two examples of the "hate" on here?
The 'hate' you refer to isn't really for Ronaldo himself, it's more like a reflex response brought on by the other gaggle of posters who display an almost homoerotic devotion towards him.
Bang on.
If that is your view - why do you (or the others) even go into the thread? Life is too short to bother with a player you’re not a fan of.
I just posted an observation. I didn't criticise the player.
I have to disagree the hate you see is almost a weird obsession and desperateness to see him fail so they can be like “see he isn’t good”’or whatever goes through there mind. When ever he has bad performances the haters flock to this thread and then when he puts on a show like last night they are no where to seen.
Perhaps, but I think much of it is directly proportional to the excessive adulation provided by his supporters.
Well the thread isn't the Cristiano Ronaldo adulation thread (current title notwithstanding), it's a discussion thread. Personally speaking I just go into it for the performance updates, as I don't really follow Serie A, and the last time I posted in it was a couple of months ago.
True, but I think they do that more to get a rise out of his supporters. I doubt they actually hate Ronaldo.
Still miles better than Lithuania though, who have one win in the last three years. Yesterdays game was a training session from the first second. It took Lithuania 17 minutes to even complete a pass in Portugals half ffs.
Obviously one of the greatest ever. Amazing to be doing it at his age to the level that he’s doing it. But just a thought , people who watch Juve week in week out , are in better position to have an opinion.
He still is Juventus top scorer so far this season, most of them match winning goals too. Ultimately its not only how many he scores that makes the difference but always comes up with the goods when needed. Last season vs Atletico a prime example.
The only match winning goals were the two penalties
But still, "you can only beat what's in front of you" still rings true, and Lithuania have only conceded two hat-tricks in the last 19 years*. Both of those were Ronaldo, and both were this year, with one being a four goal haul. Just showing up and netting hat-tricks against Lithuania clearly isn't something anyone can just do. Except Ronaldo. He did it two times out of two.
Lithuania used to be way more competitive and are right now in their worst state in decades if you look at their results.
Exactly, it’s almost embarrassing the amount people are talking up a match against a god awful Lithuania side. Ranked 132nd in the world FFS
If only messi could perform against these god awful sides just one time and win his country anything other than tears.
I am talking about this season so far, not just 1 or 2 games. I am sure Messi has face many weak opponents throughout his career too, does it matter to you?
Talking about hypocrisy. There’s only been a reasonable amount of post talking about the hat trick, before some Messi fanboy arrived and trying to spoil the party. In fact, when Messi scored hat trick against La Liga relegation team the other day, there’s also full page of talking up at Messi thread. Only difference is Ronaldo fans wouldn’t invade and spoil the thread there.
Bingo. This whole off topic debate had just settled - then, lo and behold pregra appears like Beetlejuice to reignite it
Exactly that's what I'm talking about. You may not be aware of it, but there is a massive difference between a La Liga relegation team (Celta Vigo) and Lithuania. I just want to help people who don't understand. It's more like somebody would hype up a hattrick in the FA Cup vs Tranmere Rovers or Rotherham United.Bingo. This whole off topic debate had just settled - then, lo and behold pregra appears like Beetlejuice to reignite it
The irony, as has been pointed out, is that Ronaldo fans are actually less vocal than the Messi fans, and tend to go after Messi far less, in fact. I personally think the opposite of what you say is true: it's due to Ronaldo himself being perceived as someone who is arrogant, calls himself the best, calls himself handsome, and generally oozes certain vibe that rubs people the wrong way. I remember I didn't like him when he was starting out at United because while he was very entertaining and incredibly talented, something about him just pissed me off; whereas I immediately liked Messi after seeing him at the youth championships in 2005.
That’s sort of the point many are trying to make. If some of the die hard Messi/Barcelona/Argentina fans find the Ronaldo fandom to be so insufferable why spend time in the Ronaldo thread? Why spend time at such an unimportant issue that annoys you so much? It’s bizzare.
It was 2 sweet freekicks though.
Come on. The Messi thread at times laid dormant throughout periods in which Messi scored 10+ goals in the meantime. The Cristiano thread has twice as many posts as the Messi one and gets bumped every game he scores a goal. Thing is, the mental gymnastics in this thread often trigger responses because it is hard not to call them out when you come across them. I mean, just look at the last pages. It immediately irks in your finger tips when you see how some are glorifying a hatrick vs Lithuania as proof that the "haters" were wrong and go on to praise his current goal record when he scored 50% of those goals against a national side whose quality wouldn't even good enough to be considered a candidate for a preseason match if they were an actual football club. Some even post misleading statistics by deliberately leaving out crucial contextual information. You rarely see that kind of stuff in the Messi thread and if you do you can be sure it'll be called out. So yeah, what do you expect?
No one is forcing the Messi fans to enter though.
Its Ronaldo thread, what do you expect? The man is nearly 35 and won't be playing forever, and all we want is to enjoy while it last. Why do you people strongly feel the need to spoil the party at every chances here? Especially when Ronaldo just scored a hat trick (including a good goal too), its really not necessary, its haters mentality, those type of things we won't do in Messi thread.
It's because they are insecure, how can such an inferior player in their eyes be compared to their god? If they were that confident about it they wouldn't be bashing Ronaldo at every opportunity and circling like vultures waiting for him to fail.
well, it's not like Argentina dismantled Burundi or Hong Kong and now you have bunch of Barca fans swarming that thread and saying "You see, Valverde? that's how it shoud be done." not a single sane person would do that yet it's happening here for some reason. personally, I never post here and I have no problems with fans praising their idols, but this has nothing do to with Ronaldo, it's about pure common sense. I wouldn't even post here if it weren't for those strange calls for Sarri/Allegri and Juventus. at this point I'm still not sure whether some of you are joking or simply pretending, or you actually aren't aware of the level of these national teams when comparing his games for Portugal with those in Juve shirt.
serious question.Well you are over-over-analysising the situation. Like every other hat-tricks Ronaldo had scored over his career, we are simply here to enjoying the moment. No one is suggesting he has just scored the greatest hat trick ever and hence he is better than Messi. Rather, its just "enjoying the moment" type of thing, just like Messi fans did over scoring a hat-trick last week. But it really turn into a case of some haters here trying to bash Ronaldo at every chances, like they always do.well, it's not like Argentina dismantled Burundi or Hong Kong and now you have bunch of Barca fans swarming that thread and saying "You see, Valverde? that's how it shoud be done." not a single sane person would do that yet it's happening here for some reason. personally, I never post here and I have no problems with fans praising their idols, but this has nothing do to with Ronaldo, it's about pure common sense. I wouldn't even post here if it weren't for those strange calls for Sarri/Allegri and Juventus. at this point I'm still not sure whether some of you are joking or simply pretending, or you actually aren't aware of the level of these national teams when comparing his games for Portugal with those in Juve shirt.
I still remember posts about Portugal before last WC and how dire and shit their football is, yet I also remember them dismantling pretty much every of those NT's on Lithuania level in their group. dire teams don't score 3 goals per game and it can only happen when you get drawn with teams like Andorra, Latvia and Faroe Islands. Juventus will never play against such teams since there aren't any in Serie A. hell, there aren't such teams in Serie B.
I mean, if he failed to repeat the same now against Lazio and Atalanta, would that be considered as underperforming or what?
dude, I don't think a single word I wrote made it to you. no offence.
No offence, but I've never raised such point, so there's nothing there to debate.
