Might be a bit cynical, but that’s what I was thinking as well.
Jesse Lingard interview about his family issues
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Even cutting down would be a great step in the right direction. We're at 3x a day, 7x a week which is quite wild to think about.
In any case, noise made. Time to move this to another thread
Great interview. I'm taking it all on face value. This really does explain that he's looked knackered and he is capable of so much more than what we've seen this season.
Also strong words from Ole, giving him a final warning.
Also strong words from Ole, giving him a final warning.
That's what I thought too. We really need to upgrade to better players.
His situation is sad, but that doesn't excuse him dropping 0/10 for most of the year. Our club ain't a charity.
I think it's good he's addressing his issues and his form.
I however find the notion that he is back in form after the Spurs and City wildly premature. This has been the narrative all over the media. He had two decent games, nothing more, and there is a long way to go to convince me he should stay here.
I however find the notion that he is back in form after the Spurs and City wildly premature. This has been the narrative all over the media. He had two decent games, nothing more, and there is a long way to go to convince me he should stay here.
There has been an increase in iodine deficiency due to people not drinking milk, which contains over 70% of your daily iodine amount. Iodine is important for mental health. There has also been an increase in calcium deficiency due to the same reason, which can lead to cramping, brittle bones and irritation of the nervous system. Just eating plant-based meals will just lead to different health issues in the future.
Eating anything in excess or in an insufficient amount is bad for your health. You should just eat a balanced diet.
I'm 29 and just got married this year.
Taking care of my wife alone is making me harder to be my old passionate filmmaker self.
There's always something on the weekend, the money you have to spend...
Work became money motivated, it's tough you know? Can relate to Jesse..
Hope he will get through this.
Taking care of my wife alone is making me harder to be my old passionate filmmaker self.
There's always something on the weekend, the money you have to spend...
Work became money motivated, it's tough you know? Can relate to Jesse..
Hope he will get through this.
If it only it was as easy as this. Yes it’s stupid archaic masculinity at work, but from the outside it’s so easy to say ‘oh he made the wrong choice’. It’s an endemic issue that is only fixed through societal education. It’s not just making the right or wrong choice, when you don’t think it’s the done thing to talk about your feelings. Why is suicide in men so high? Is it their fault? No it’s a pervasive continuation of old school masculinity.
Seriously?
I can't believe that some 'fans' think this is acceptable or normal.
Not always. It depends how much you trust people and how much you feel you are burdening them or making excuses for yourself.
It sounds perfectly normal to me. He was struggling with personal issues. Ole is his manager not his best mate. It was probably a pretty big deal to actually speak to him about it.
Talking from a perspective of a 26 y.o, I agree that it felt overwhelming at first when you suddenly had to take care of people other than yourself whilst being in the age of "I still want to play, I'm not that old!". But I suppose it's normal to happen if you are the oldest child in the family, you just have more experience to guide your younger brothers/sisters through difficult times so responsibilities fall naturally to your shoulders (in fact, it SHOULD be my responsibility since I live in an old school Asian family - You can't just marry and leave with your hot new wife while forgetting about 'the rice at home'). And in the case of him while He might have the money to fix problems, his mother is ill and that's not easy to take. I wish him the best for his personal life.
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Ain't this the damn truth
Agree with the bolded (as the first born from a similarly traditional background) but that shit isn't easy. And a lot of the stuff we deal with gets swept under the rug because it comes with the territory. I have several friends who have mentally crumbled under the pressure of setting a good example for the rest, and acting as provider and simultaneously trying to figure out life as a 20 something year old.
I've been hard on him in the past but his confession puts a lot in perspective.
He's a top top player on his day. If he can find consistency he'll be idolized. He needs to stay more focused on the football side of things.
This is why you dont act like toxic cnuts on social media
Nooo! This article is about Lingard, not Martial.
So when CR's dad died he didn't want to quit the team and go back to Portugal yet this guy cries to the media/coach about his family problems because his mom is sick and he has to play the daddy role 
He's very lucky to be in the position he is financially and at a club who will support him, I've been through this without support and after my loved ones passed on I'm still feeling the effects financially and mentally several years on. It all makes sence to me now the way he's been of late as I myself had similar.
Come on he's human and everyone's different, you can't compare Ronaldo's reaction to grief to another it's just everyone deals with things diffrentllySo when CR's dad died he didn't want to quit the team and go back to Portugal yet this guy cries to the media/coach about his family problems because his mom is sick and he has to play the daddy role
I have been a strong critic of him, being mainly opposed to his childish antics off the field. Unfortunately we as the public are only exposed to what the media shows us and we pass judgment and make conclusions on what we see.
I’m not condoning his off the field behaviour however I can sympathize with his personal life struggles. Jessie handles adversities the way Jessie can, so lets not compare him to others but rather try and at least understand what he is going through.
As fans we all want what’s best for our club and an in form Lingard is far better for the club than what we’ve experienced recently. I hope he gets through this difficult time in his life and the experience makes him a better individual.
Good luck Jessie!
I’m not condoning his off the field behaviour however I can sympathize with his personal life struggles. Jessie handles adversities the way Jessie can, so lets not compare him to others but rather try and at least understand what he is going through.
As fans we all want what’s best for our club and an in form Lingard is far better for the club than what we’ve experienced recently. I hope he gets through this difficult time in his life and the experience makes him a better individual.
Good luck Jessie!
Whatever you think of his talent level and whether he's good enough and all that it's been pretty obvious all season that something was up with him. I just assumed he was taking on board all the criticism over the summer.
Football or work is secondary to family, i have gained huge respect for him that i didn't have after reading that. A real man opens up and can articulate issues that are impacting him. Women tend to be much much better at this and is why in my opinion are the stronger gender at times when it comes to mental state of mind. Jessie looking after his much younger siblings, taking on that responsibility is a massive deal. How they grow up depends on him and his decisions, that is a burden but will mature him. Hopefully he can translate these responsibilities to good form on the pitch. Above all, i genuinely hope his situation gets better, not for man united but as a human being.
It's a shame to hear about anybody who is going through difficult time with family problems at home. And I hope he finds support in his loved ones/the club to get through this.
At the same time, I don't think we need to correlate it too much to his football. He hasn't been good enough for a long time and we shouldn't blind ourselves from our need to upgrade him.
Wish him well in his personal life. But we need more quality.
Poor interview, that's called life Jesse and people have many more problems and don't get the excuses in/get on with it. Wow he opened up, feck me. They aren't the worst problems to have at that age, it could be worse. I actually thought I was going to read something awful and feel sorry for him.
Yeah if all his family died in a car crash then I’d care. But this was nothing. I have no empathy and I’m a cynical poster. Such a poor interview, he should stop talking and concentrate on football.
I guess this is why some guys don't like to open up. They get the rolley-eyes.So when CR's dad died he didn't want to quit the team and go back to Portugal yet this guy cries to the media/coach about his family problems because his mom is sick and he has to play the daddy role
Do you really think that age is the only factor? I know blokes in their 50’s who are like babies and can’t do jack for themselves.
I'm surprised you think that way Giflord. Ronaldo was helped by the club because he didn't hide his father's death, hopefully Jesse will get support from the club now that he has approached the manger.So when CR's dad died he didn't want to quit the team and go back to Portugal yet this guy cries to the media/coach about his family problems because his mom is sick and he has to play the daddy role
Red Cafe is social media. And it's full of abu cnuts.
It's not easy to suddenly be the 'man of the house'. Especially if it happens unexpectedly die to illness or death to a loved one.
Loved ones who were always your solid support are suddenly vulnerable and are looking to you for support. You, a 20-odd year old boy who used to spend nights binge watching Clone Wars or playing Minecraft. Now you gotta go pay bills, regularly. You have to succeed at work. You have to make measured choices instead of being who you liked to be. Now you have to set an example for your brother or sister. Now you have to provide emotional support for your mom or dad whom you can never imagine to be this and vulnerable. Less time to play your silly games, less time to spend with your mates, less time for your girlfriend. Things that were fun earlier seem insignificant compared to the burden you suddenly carry. And you start thinking about who you are, what you want to be. While having to deal by yourself with the grief that triggered it all off in the first place, and watching your promising career take a hit with no place to hide, and too proud to use your circumstances as an excuse.
I've talked a lot of shit about Lingard, and yes he may not be United quality, but he didn't deserve the vitriol coming his way and deserves our support at the club for as long as he needs it. (This doesn't mean you start him every game, it means that you cheer for him every time the manager wants him on the pitch.)
Loved ones who were always your solid support are suddenly vulnerable and are looking to you for support. You, a 20-odd year old boy who used to spend nights binge watching Clone Wars or playing Minecraft. Now you gotta go pay bills, regularly. You have to succeed at work. You have to make measured choices instead of being who you liked to be. Now you have to set an example for your brother or sister. Now you have to provide emotional support for your mom or dad whom you can never imagine to be this and vulnerable. Less time to play your silly games, less time to spend with your mates, less time for your girlfriend. Things that were fun earlier seem insignificant compared to the burden you suddenly carry. And you start thinking about who you are, what you want to be. While having to deal by yourself with the grief that triggered it all off in the first place, and watching your promising career take a hit with no place to hide, and too proud to use your circumstances as an excuse.
I've talked a lot of shit about Lingard, and yes he may not be United quality, but he didn't deserve the vitriol coming his way and deserves our support at the club for as long as he needs it. (This doesn't mean you start him every game, it means that you cheer for him every time the manager wants him on the pitch.)
I have no stats to prove or disprove this. Just my own personal experience. Men and women tend to bottle up emotions feelings and issues. It happens all the time in my experience. Even myself. Just part of being human in my experience. Maybe it's my culture but this is very normal behaviour to me. He's a young human...he will learn and be better for it
Personal issues wise I feel for the man, its not easy, but every one of us got probelms like that in the real world, on alot less monye, alot less sympathy, and people just get on with it
In the case of the everyday man if personal life was affecting your work, you`d get sacked
its no excuse perfromances aside hes 27, hes never been really good enough. Just saying it how it is
In the case of the everyday man if personal life was affecting your work, you`d get sacked
its no excuse perfromances aside hes 27, hes never been really good enough. Just saying it how it is
Perhaps, when it comes to personal or family issues, maybe some people don't like confiding in others, especially your boss at work. Having been through similar issues with my mum being ill and helping take care of my 22month old brother with cerebral palsy, whilst having my own 3 kids and working full time, i have complete sympathy with Jesse for taking so long to open up, cause i know full well, I wouldn't open up about something so perosnal, especially my boss. When in 7/10 cases throughout my life, your boss will put work above their employees personal life. Yes, United may be different, but doesn't stop the anxiety in confiding with others.
Human being is in pain due to an illness to his mother.
Certain peoples reaction: "feck, he's saved himself another year in the side at least."
Christ.
Certain peoples reaction: "feck, he's saved himself another year in the side at least."
Christ.
People talk about a 27 year old as mature - but hell, look at how we behave every time United lose 
Why does a good news story bring out the worst in some people? It's disturbing.
Hang in there Jesse lad.
Hang in there Jesse lad.
Wtf are you guys on about? A player’s mother got sick and we generalized an entire generation of people while also trying to push for some debatable eating practices??
Can we not just stand by a Man Utd player, a youth team product, and say - get well soon Jesse’s mama, and we’re all here with you? C’mon people!
Some of the posters in this thread should be ashamed of themselves.
My thoughts exactly.
Seems like the old "stiff upper lip" nonsense among men is still alive and well.
This.
Some disgusting comments like "thats him safe for another one year" Christ. People have actually forgotten to be humans.