here it is again. We’ve literally just lost to the worse team in the league. Watford have one win before today. That means that Watford play the worse football, have the worse defence and have the worse attack in the league. These are facts of this season and we’ve just lost to them EASILY but yeah “nobody can do it with these players”... although as has been pointed out numerous times, the decision to go with these players was a decision made by the management team.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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People who are changing votes on the premise of results are shortsighted, which explains why after two wins the percentages shifted dramatically, if you assess the objectivity of our season's Solskjaer has been beyond poor. That alone should be the judgement the accumulation of games.
Yeah it was a disgrace. But there is no quick fix.
He has to be sacked ASAP...CLUELESS manager!! Spurs and City games were just covering the cracks...OUT
Winning big games is fun but LVG was winning them while also playing youngsters and the overall picture was crap and he was sacked.
I'll keep Ole for now but we should be moving heaven and earth behind closed doors to get Poch. If we want to keep Ole till the end of the season, ok, but we should be preparing the new manager from now on.
Each positive result in the league is followed by few bad ones. Big games are only about 10 games a season, and there have been too many false downs. I tried to be positive after Spurs and City games but it's not working. It just made it predictable now. We'll win every big game while fecking up the majority of the small ones and finishing below 7th. I doubt the next win in a big game will be looked at as another turning point or anything.
I'll keep Ole for now but we should be moving heaven and earth behind closed doors to get Poch. If we want to keep Ole till the end of the season, ok, but we should be preparing the new manager from now on.
Each positive result in the league is followed by few bad ones. Big games are only about 10 games a season, and there have been too many false downs. I tried to be positive after Spurs and City games but it's not working. It just made it predictable now. We'll win every big game while fecking up the majority of the small ones and finishing below 7th. I doubt the next win in a big game will be looked at as another turning point or anything.
Thing that the players would have gotten from Mourinho being fired is that the manager isn't allowed to criticize them, no matter what they do or how badly they play. (what will Ole say after the game today?) Part of criticism is saying what they could do better, but if that's not allowed?
THE POLL MEANS feck ALL
I've said it all season and some great results as a counter attacking side against the top teams won't sway me, in just over a year OGS has undoubtedly made us a much worse side.
Now you are either ok with that because of some "bigger picture" or you're not. I fall into the not bracket, it's simply not good enough, a top manger should be able to rebuild this club without having to turn us into a midtable side first.
Now you are either ok with that because of some "bigger picture" or you're not. I fall into the not bracket, it's simply not good enough, a top manger should be able to rebuild this club without having to turn us into a midtable side first.
Selling a player means a team is ready to buy them and our board is ready to replace them. Are these both true?
I doubt anyone expects any manager to come in and make us challengers overnight.
I expect a semblance of a plan from a new manager. An actual style of football. An idea of how to break teams down. A defensive shape that allows us to actually defendand a manager that doesn’t completely and utterly ignore the very obvious holes in our squad.
If you look at things objectively coming after 2-0 loss to Watford I think it's dead clear transfer windows is not the problem. This squad even with it's flaws is more than good enough to beat Watford or at the bare minimum get a draw, or even score a goal...
Ole's the worst manager post SAF simple as. Wasting more money under this management would be an absolutely disastrous decision but with Ed and the Glazer's nothing would surprise me so you might very well get what you want.
If Haaland is only coming here because of Ole, he must have the dumbest group of advisors in football, the club at the moment is a sh*te show.
Need more time and more player to turn it around? How long more and how many player exactly?
Excuses after excuses. Its Watford, not Barcelona!
Excuses after excuses. Its Watford, not Barcelona!
Im tired of seeing this argument over and over again, under that logic we shouldnt buy any professional players since we been down that road we should stick with sunday league players.
Ole is a failure as a coach, the fact that other things are wrong at the club doesnt change the fact that he’s tactically inept.
I don't know why Glazers allow this. This is shambolic stuff. Losing against small teams week after week without having some good general play.
Sack him ffs
Sack him ffs
He deserves sacking for picking Lingard 27 times and no attacking contribution.
I don't even blame Lingard anymore. That's the manager to blame now. He needs to be taken out of the side and forever. He's not good enough. End of story.
Ole out now for me. We don't look like we have a clue. Just a decent counter attacking team. Not enough for a proper club with ambition.
I don't even blame Lingard anymore. That's the manager to blame now. He needs to be taken out of the side and forever. He's not good enough. End of story.
Ole out now for me. We don't look like we have a clue. Just a decent counter attacking team. Not enough for a proper club with ambition.
If you are a half decent player and have the best sides in Europe chasing after you there's no way you would sign with Ole.
Keep. Stick that to your asses, glory hunters. We are going to CL this season be it EL or EPL qualification. We are still in top 4 race with half of the team injured throughout the season.
Yes, my shit is properly boiling after the game, the result and 75 mins of the game were frustrating. But if I had let emotions manage my life instead of managing them I’d become a miserable, depressive whiner watching free streams on a cracked display of a shitty phone.
Back in 2000s, I thought there was a difference between LFC and United fan base, but no: people are all the same. As I grow older, I have much more respect for the people supporting small clubs and fans who supported MU in 1970s and 80s, than fellow United fans who Start “a mid table club fan base mentality” bullshit. feck off you cnuts, who are first to express their fragile inner world when our young team loses but never show up in pre season, youth teams and tactical threads.
P.S. I’m not meaning to insult those fans who care about the club (not only results) but happen to have a “sack Ole” opinion based on their analysis and present their opinion with respect to other fans and the club.
Yes, my shit is properly boiling after the game, the result and 75 mins of the game were frustrating. But if I had let emotions manage my life instead of managing them I’d become a miserable, depressive whiner watching free streams on a cracked display of a shitty phone.
Back in 2000s, I thought there was a difference between LFC and United fan base, but no: people are all the same. As I grow older, I have much more respect for the people supporting small clubs and fans who supported MU in 1970s and 80s, than fellow United fans who Start “a mid table club fan base mentality” bullshit. feck off you cnuts, who are first to express their fragile inner world when our young team loses but never show up in pre season, youth teams and tactical threads.
P.S. I’m not meaning to insult those fans who care about the club (not only results) but happen to have a “sack Ole” opinion based on their analysis and present their opinion with respect to other fans and the club.
Yes, see what he brings in, he might be a important factor to getting Halaand and hopefully he gets a midfielder as well.
Pogba is back as well now. I was saying before wait for Martial to come back, and when he did and played regularly the dynamic of attack transformed, hopefully the same will happen for our midfield in breaking down mid to bottom teams with Pogba now available
Did you not read your own post?
I didnt say change vote, did I...
Ole is perfect for the Glazers. He's a legend which means that most fans tend to treat him with kiddie gloves and they won't turn against him. He's also very grateful for the job which means he will protect them and Woody from the fans, allowing them to focus what really matters at this club ie making money.
The fans need to wise up. They need to turn against the Glazers and Woodward big time whether Ole likes it or not.
I am also tired by this flawed argument. Then why buy new players? Why to buy midfielder when we have all other problems? Why to buy any player in fact?
And btw, changing the manager was positive for us. From Moyes we went to Lvg who finished 4th and won FA cup. From LVG we went to Jose who won two trophies and put us back in CL two years in a row.
The flip flopping on the votes is jokes
The one positive I’ve found the past month is we do have decent enough players if they do have it in them to beat Spurs and City in a week. The issue is OGS gets really stumped by teams who are content to sit back. At least two thirds of the league opposition are likely to employ this against us. The other third will attack us which suits OGS right down to the ground.
Wins against City and Spurs are in vain if we drop points to Everton, Sheff Utd, Villa and Watford. We don’t get more points for beating teams above us unfortunately.
Wins against City and Spurs are in vain if we drop points to Everton, Sheff Utd, Villa and Watford. We don’t get more points for beating teams above us unfortunately.
Jones could have easily left for free. We were the ones who kept him here by handling him a long term contract which allowed Smalling (a far more useful player) to go on loan. JLings was also heading towards the end of the contract as well. What's the point of keeping players who are constantly shit?
He's got to go. Just look at him and his staff on the bench slumped with their arms folded, it's hardly inspiring.
He doesn't have a clue about beating teams that defend deep and give us the ball. Unfortunately for him, given the stature of the club and the money poured into the squad, that's what we'll face most weeks. We aren't a training ground for managers so he needs to go.
Then how about you feck off talking about it if you don't want the responses?
I'm completely mind fvcked with it, one week I'm thinking he's got to go and then we win three games and I'm giving him the next few windows.
Today was unacceptable though, they've got no idea how to break down defences.
Today was unacceptable though, they've got no idea how to break down defences.
He should be sacked but won’t be. Our club is in an absolute state, moving forward my arse.
He inherited a rubbish sqaud built through the wasting of money of other managers. Lukaku, Sanchez, Bailey, Matic these are all a waste of money.
Yeah look how two world class managers changed the team.
That’s the difference. Mourinho and LVG were past their best when they got here. Moyes was crap and Ole is clueless.
Which is why I've said countless times on polls like these you shouldn't be able to change the vote. It gives it no value.
The Glazers give no fecks, as long as we are making a profit, they don't care. They would rather win but the bottom line is PROFIT.
Has he gone yet?
He's not going for a while isn't he?
He's not going for a while isn't he?
The squad is a group of game raisers who spend most weeks playing against teams raising their own game. But ours are "world class" and on 200k a week so don't bother against teams not in the top 4.
Talent, Work Ethic, Consistency.
Pick two.
I really want to sack Ole after today's game tbh.
However imo he'll stay until CL football next season is impossible.
However imo he'll stay until CL football next season is impossible.
That is my point. Under Ole we are losing money on market and we will not play CL.
What the hell are you even talking about
How about you rain in your emotional state. Sorry I don't value your opinion, deal with it
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