Well hopefully. These are the absolute worst.I'd say you're completely wrong.
Well hopefully. These are the absolute worst.I'd say you're completely wrong.
And then there's the gloryhunters who I'd say make up 40% of people here who demand we pay whatever selling clubs seek and think its like going into a shop to buy a 1/4 of bon bons when buying players and think we have some divine right to be winning trophies season after season.And then there is the Top Red brigade that will call out any fans criticizing the club or how it's run and no matter how bad things are will sit on their high horse and blindly eat every shit that is served to them. Would say ca 35% of "the folks here".
I'd say what you just described just doesn't exist. Don't think there is a single person that thinks we have a divine right to win trophies? I mean that would be crazy don't you think?And then there's the gloryhunters who I'd say make up 40% of people here who demand we pay whatever selling clubs seek and think its like going into a shop to buy a 1/4 of bon bons when buying players and think we have some divine right to be winning trophies season after season.
Both camps, top reds and serial moaners are the worst.Well hopefully. These are the absolute worst.
Sadly it's easier to be in that second camp these daysBoth camps, top reds and serial moaners are the worst.
I’ve been consistent in my view on this one. I don’t want this player. He may we’ll improve us a bit (as has been said a number of times by his defenders in this thread, ‘he’s surely better than Lingard’) but I’m afraid of the opportunity cost of us signing him. Firstly, I’m not keen on signing a #10 at all, but secondly, I think we can sign better 10s if we indeed needed one.I'm skeptical as well. An attacking midfielder who doesn't appear to have excellent close control/dribbling in tight spaces or physicality/burst of pace, and relies on end product (excellent numbers, but proven at a low level) - really hope this one works out as we need to get our AM signing spot on.
NO, I don't believe in overpaying for players. However we need players in and if negotiations had been done in the last 6 months, we would have known the situation and could have moved away to someone else.When we overpay it is not good. When we don't overpay it is not good. What do you guys want the club to do then?
Woodward 101.Still think it's worth returning to Ed telling everyman and his dog that we can do things in the market other clubs could only dream of.
Pigeons, home, roost.
We're laughably shite at this whole football thing.
Because he didn’t agree any deals for midfielders prior to opening of the transfer window, despite our dire need. Bruno or other good player, but Woodward must have done itAnd why is that? Because we reportedly refuse to pay £65m + £15m for him?
Why be in any camp rather than look at things objectively somewhat.Sadly it's easier to be in that second camp these days
Well I say that what you wish for ? Is what doesnt exit mate.I'd say what you just described just doesn't exist. Don't think there is a single person that thinks we have a divine right to win trophies? I mean that would be crazy don't you think?
Tapping him up won't make a difference to the fee Leicester will ask imo. Saying that, I can see us selling Pogba in the summer and replacing him with Maddison.Just tap him up all the way to the summer, he's a boyhood United fan..
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Yeh. There are like tens of thousands footballers out there. And our sophisticated scout system only come with Bruno as the "right player" to pursue in this window, when we're in dire need. Conveniently he was offered since last summer, and now at the price (Ed think) United shouldn't pay. And we only started "negotiation" when the window was opened.Ole's obituary is being written. If we dont sign anyone this window, he's going into war with a threadbare and poor squad, and we'll finish around 8th - and he'll be sacked. We cannot concentrate on more than one player, so if this deal dies, we're done for the transfer window. Shambolic, pathetic planning yet again.
Don't think anyone is trying to be in "a camp" actively. It just happens you are rather a guy that sees things in a more positive light or in a negative one. To look at things just objectively with a passion like a football club is pretty much impossible don't you think. Any opinion will have at least to a certain extent subjective elements. But to straight out call out any criticism of the club especially when it's in a state like this is straight out idiotic. On the other hand to never have a single good word to say about the club is too, I agree.Why be in any camp rather than look at things objectively somewhat.
No you have your own opinion and that's more than fineWell I say that what you wish for ? Is what doesnt exit mate.
You make it sound like it's as easy as going to supermarket to buy some apples. Do you know any available "good" players who would definitely be worth spending £65m+ ? If we spend some ridiculous amount of money on someone who "would be an upgrade to Lingard" then I would rather we don't. Spending money is hardly an issue post SAF, spending it wisely 100% is and panic buying someone will just make things worse.Because he didn’t agree any deals for midfielders prior to opening of the transfer window, despite our dire need. Bruno or other good player, but Woodward must have done it
Give me one reason for any glory hunter to still be supporting us 7 years of being crap and not challenging for major trophies. If United had any glory hunters fans, they had left long time ago.And then there's the gloryhunters who I'd say make up 40% of people here who demand we pay whatever selling clubs seek and think its like going into a shop to buy a 1/4 of bon bons when buying players and think we have some divine right to be winning trophies season after season.
To be honest, if this is true, then we are a joke. 50 million EUROS? How could we ever hope Sporting would accept that? Doubt this is true though, that would be straight out madness.Tweet
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How do you know it's Sporting that's being horrible? All we are going by is tabloid extracts which are 99% BS and the other 1% is probably news leaked by us (or Sporting) to save face. Have you noticed that we are looking at a DOF once again? This is classic United to deflect from any possible fallout if the Bruno deal falls through.Some of you are infuriating. We can't have clubs trying to mug us and ask for enormous fees, you guys are so insufferable for blaming OUR CLUB in these cases, it's the Sporting that's been horrible.
Says who? With our current set-up I'd imagine only known bullshitters are going with this nonsense.Have you noticed that we are looking at a DOF once again?
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What's wrong with 50 million euros?To be honest, if this is true, then we are a joke. 50 million EUROS? How could we ever hope Sporting would accept that? Doubt this is true though, that would be straight out madness.
And we're still talking about it like everyone on social media.Story came out january 10th but whatever.
I’ve argued for the past 2-3 seasons that he should be banned but hey sometimes he has united players on his show.Tweets from this clown are allowed ?
What do you mean £68 million? That’s not what I’ve seen quoted?This is a narrative i do not get. We would do business at £60m but not at £68m?
I mean, come on. This is Perisic all over again.
It's this kind of reactionary thinking that got the club into this mess. Todays result should have no bearing on it at all. It's one game, and luckily for us virtually a free hit given yesterday's results.if we get slapped at Anfield lets see if the board still walk away.
Aldo doesn't include addons.What's wrong with 50 million euros?
Its probably best now to see what happens,which is looking like nothing will on a positive note.Im starting not to care at this point
These add-ons can be impossible to achieve, like him winning Ballon D'Or, us winning CL or at our current state even winning the league. It can be a bonus if he scores 25 goals a season which is something they can't control, so the idea of them accepting any ads on doesn't make sense.Aldo doesn't include addons.
That was never going to be enough. They rejected offers of 45 just last summer. Their best player for two seasons, a Portugal international, and we come up with a 42 mill pound offer after spanking out 80 mill for Harry fecking Maguire?What's wrong with 50 million euros?
Because we were ripped off for him. It's not Ole's fault of course but Maguire is not £80m player, certainly not £80m upgrade on Smalling. If we give up and pay whatever Sporting asks for Bruno (£65m + £15m bonuses if we believe reports) and suddenly he doesn't perform as well as we expect him to, the first ones to call him a flop, waste of money and call Ed an idiot for paying such amount of money would be the same people who call Ed inept now for not paying it now. Typical.It's this kind of reactionary thinking that got the club into this mess. Todays result should have no bearing on it at all. It's one game, and luckily for us virtually a free hit given yesterday's results.
We have a valuation of the player and dont want to get ripped off. Right now in the United forum the thread is ripping Ole for 'wasting' 80m on Maguire
It's fifty million euros up front guaranteed, which is 40 odd million quid. I think that's a fair price. Then you have the add ons which takes it into the 60-70 million Euro region if Bruno comes good.To be honest, if this is true, then we are a joke. 50 million EUROS? How could we ever hope Sporting would accept that? Doubt this is true though, that would be straight out madness.
If we believe the reports then these "addons" are a joke as well and pretty much non achievable. 60 - 70 mill euros up front for him would be a fair price in my opinion. Would make it 50 - 60 million pounds.It's fifty million euros up front guaranteed, which is 40 odd million quid. I think that's a fair price. Then you have the add ons which takes it into the 60-70 million Euro region if Bruno comes good.
Sporting just want all that money up front. Plus even more to take it into the 80 million euro region. Feck off Sporting.
They lied.But there were news a couple of days ago saying “the price of the transfer is agreed”. What (and why) happened since?