The form Rashfords been in you wouldn't drop him really. Players play through injuries all the time. You can't achieve anything from spending your career in the treatment room.
Rashford | Back in training (22nd May 2020)
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Start preparing for next season folks. This one is done. Enjoy the summer and take a break from this club. They will give us all heart attacks.
Oh sorry I meant this week wolves game.
So Pogba isn’t faking to leave and we did this to him as well ? Gutted for Rashford he was on course for 30 goals terrible management and our medical team is a disgrace
Shaw would disagree.
Also you play through little niggles here and there, not through a stress fracture.
Anotehr bad decision by Ole.
If OGS claims he's taking a big picture approach of getting youth through, developing players, with the understanding that it's going to take a few years to get back to contending, why would you play your best player through injuries? For a possible top 4 spot? So the team can get bounced in the CL next year? There are injuries you play through, there are others you have to be more cautious with. When one of your best player is holding his back through games, you should be a bit more cautious. It's not as if Rashford is a regular in the treatment room, you can afford to rest him.
This is awful news and Rashford needs to recover fully but he will recover fully. People going on as if he might be confined to a wheelchair and is touch and go if he's going to die. Stress fractures aren't great but they can be fairly common. He'll heal up fine and think we will see him again before the end of the season.
Of course youd drop him. You really have to be out of damn mind to ask a 22 year old kid, who heavily relies on his explosive ability to play with injections. Read up on how it fecked Rio Ferdinand. He should have been in the treatment room the moment he felt pain. This is unforgivable.
No but playing a 22 year old who relies on pace and explosive attacking is just a brain dead decision. It's Pogba, McTominay, Marcus and nearly Maguire that all played through injury. 3 of them are now out long term. Surely you can see the problem in this? It's terrible mismanagement.
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Yes, I'm sure that's exactly how Ole was thinking.
Of course Pogba isn't faking it. It has already been reported that the medical staff allegedly neglected the sprain ankle and a stress fracture on his foot/ankle back in August, Pogba was seemingly also responsible because he asked to play through it which leads to the mess that we have seen in the last six months. There seems to be chronical negligence when it comes to players health and it's particularly stupid in a season where we are going nowhere.
Oh yeah totally agree! I'm livid.
That said I do think this sounds worse than it is - if that makes sense. Think he'll recover well.
Damn! Huge blow. Sounds oresty serious too. Can't believe he was even playing in that state. This has huge implications for the rest of our season.
No, Pogba is not responsible one bit. Players are always going to want to play, despite what some on here might be thinking, it's up to the staff to hold them back from further damaging themselves, against their will or understanding if need be.
By far our best player. Terrible news.
Top 4 is gone. Next year it is then.
Top 4 is gone. Next year it is then.
I hope you are right, because it's so unfair on Rashford if we are risking his career to just try and stay afloat this season. I'd actually become "Ole out" if it turned out that he knew Marcus was injured and risked seriously aggravating the problem.
Did Ole confirm the ankle surgery as well? Or is it still just a media rumour? Because that sounded grim as well.
Of course he is, I have done it myself and it's stupid to play through injuries, you need to know when to stop and rest because that's what is good for yourself and your team long term.
Apparently hes been playing through the pain barrier for weeks have to give him some credit for doing his best to carry on knowing he is needed to help the team when others have perhaps been less committed however he shouldn't have to be in that position.
Apparently he has a bone chip as well so they may as well get that fixed now
Ole was really struggling for an answer when questioned about it in the post game interview just now
Taken from the bbc live text commentary
When asked about potentially replacing Marcus Rashford this transfer window, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer replied:
“We've had many injuries for big players this season. It’s just an unfortunate situation we're in. We might look at some short term deals as well that could take us through to the summer. We don’t desperately need a striker, if the right one is there and it fits for us... we’ve got players who are champing at the bit.”
Who are these players "champing at the bit?!" Are they invisible or something? If we have both Greenwood and Martial starting who do we have on the bench? What if one of them gets injured given Martial is made of glass. Him saying "the right one" is starting to get old very quickly as well
Apparently he has a bone chip as well so they may as well get that fixed now
Ole was really struggling for an answer when questioned about it in the post game interview just now
Taken from the bbc live text commentary
When asked about potentially replacing Marcus Rashford this transfer window, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer replied:
“We've had many injuries for big players this season. It’s just an unfortunate situation we're in. We might look at some short term deals as well that could take us through to the summer. We don’t desperately need a striker, if the right one is there and it fits for us... we’ve got players who are champing at the bit.”
Who are these players "champing at the bit?!" Are they invisible or something? If we have both Greenwood and Martial starting who do we have on the bench? What if one of them gets injured given Martial is made of glass. Him saying "the right one" is starting to get old very quickly as well
What awful news. What an awful day of football.
Hopefully this doesn’t have in impact in his progression as he has been on fire this season.
Hopefully this doesn’t have in impact in his progression as he has been on fire this season.
Is he?
Without Rashford we are almost a nothing side. We'll be lost without him.
This. Some posters on the Caf had the audacity to say others were making excuses for Rashford and these alleged injuries he was playing through were never real.
It is so obvious that Marcus will always try and play through the pain barrier, the definition of bleeding for the club. The fans that have constantly been on his back have to apologise for their ridiculously harsh comments.
What strikes me the most is Ole's using the word '' unfortunate'' to describe Rashford injury, when he was clearly seen and photographed carrying a bone fracture healing device before the Norwich game!! What kind a medical professional or a coaching staff will allow a player to play a set of games knowing before hand that he has a fractured bone?
This is beyond unfortunate, this is beyond neglect, this is knowingly risking a player in many games not just the Wolves game.
This is beyond unfortunate, this is beyond neglect, this is knowingly risking a player in many games not just the Wolves game.
You wonder what our medical staff are doing, too afraid to say someone has a potentially serious injury? We get too many injuries, so we really need to be looking at them and the conditioning coaches. Something is really wrong.
This isn't a bit of a calf strain. It is something that could affect him for the rest of his life, as anybody who has back trouble will tell you, me included.
Overplayed him ffs.
This club is ran like a fing joke. Rashford is a kid. And he’s been carrying this team. IF he’s been playing through the pain barrier some serious questions need to be asked.
For us to be in a situation where we’re forcing him to play week in week out in that condition isn’t on. WE Should have adequate cover to allow him to rest when possible. We’re now in a situation where we find us relying on Greenwood and James. And they simply aren’t good enough.
honesty getting to the point where I hope it seriously ruins our season, as we despratly need some people in charge at the top with some footballing knowledge.
For us to be in a situation where we’re forcing him to play week in week out in that condition isn’t on. WE Should have adequate cover to allow him to rest when possible. We’re now in a situation where we find us relying on Greenwood and James. And they simply aren’t good enough.
honesty getting to the point where I hope it seriously ruins our season, as we despratly need some people in charge at the top with some footballing knowledge.
Again, he's not. He doesn't make the decision whether he plays or not. Players will always try to play through injuries because they love the game, without thinking rationally through it. It's up to the medical staff and the manager to look out for their interest. It's silly to blame Pogba, or any player for that matter, for playing through injuries, all players do that even you and you're not even getting paid to do it.
Of course he does, no one can force someone to play injured and the fact that player will always try to play through injuries is partially on them, they shouldn't always try to play through injury. Sometimes the best decision that you can take is to rest and get healthy. And that's not debatable.
He confirmed after Wolves that Marcus had a back problem. Also there have been pictures of Rashford carrying some sort of apparatus that heals bones in weeks leading up to this. He absolutely had to have known. Lest we forget, McTominay who played 40 minutes with ligament injury. Pogba who also had ankle injury just after season stated as per @JPRouve and we've had Maguire who was playing at Wolverhampton away through pain. It's just negligence from the manager and the medical team at this point.
It’s worse than just overplaying him - I get wanting to play him every game when he’s fit and healthy because he’s our best player, but we played when he was carrying an injury that the club were clearly aware of. That’s just incompetence.
He's the boss. He should be making those decisions. Otherwise the tail is wagging the dog.
Complete feck up but it’s the manager that chooses the lineup
How are people trying to paint this as anything other than terrible management is beyond me. It happened with Pogba and with McTominay before
No, he doesn't decide whether he plays or not, the manager picks the team based on the information he gathers through training and his medical staff. A club with a proper medical team will tell you if a player is a risk, whether it's Pogba or Rashford, the signs were there to see, in the case of Rashford it was painfully obvious to the point many people were calling this a mistake prior to the double fracture.
At that point, you have to make a decision as a manager to decide the risk. I couldn't care less what a player tells me, how he can play through this, because they all say that, we've all done it. Hindsight is always 20/20, but the more information comes out on both cases, the clearer it becomes that this could have easily been avoided. We're just not going to agree on this if you think a player saying he's fine to play through injuries dictates that he should be to blame if he aggravates his injury, despite the fact that there's a medical staff and a manager that is supposedly looking at the big picture and not immediate results as if the team was in the running for the league.
You won't find a player that won't want to play through injuries, but they're not doctors and they might not realize how compromised they are, it's solely the medical staff and the manager's responsibility to manage that. Pogba can't pick himself on the team, neither can Rashford. So I really can't understand how you think any players should have some blame.
there are people that are Ole FC.
It's not a one person decision. If the club was functional, the player, the medical staff and the manager would take the most sensible decision but as we see in all departments in this club no one is ever responsible for his share of a problem it's always someone else.
I do agree. Our medical and fitness departments are a serious concern.
Club is run by clowns