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They are probably just testing whether or not people care about their "current" life, so the Q and A theme whilst in character is effectively market research. Positive response = new series of friends. They'd all be nuts to turn it down, they'd instantly become the biggest tv stars in the world again and make an insane amount of money.
It's the Sun so take it with a pinch of salt.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11020418/friends-new-series-sitcom-special/

As you say it'd make an absolute fortune. It was huge in 2004 and now with an even bigger following and streaming services they'd make a feckload. I think in the final season they were making $1m/episode each, they could quite easily double/triple that I'd imagine.
 

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I know it’s probably quite low brow but I genuinely think it’s the greatest TV show of all time. As others have said, you can put on any episode and it’s instant comfort food. I’m going through quite a hard time at the moment with some mental health stuff and watching just a single episode of Friends makes me forget all that. Surely that’s what the best entertainment does?

I should add that I am also watching the remastered HD Baywatch on Prime so my bar may not be that high! Haha.
Totally agree. I can watch it whenever and it feels great. Baywatch not so much though. :lol:

Hope you feel better soon mate.
 

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Hopefully it's like the Inbetweeners Reunion where it was so bad it became clear they all wanted to die 10 minutes into the show.
 

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I know it’s probably quite low brow but I genuinely think it’s the greatest TV show of all time. As others have said, you can put on any episode and it’s instant comfort food. I’m going through quite a hard time at the moment with some mental health stuff and watching just a single episode of Friends makes me forget all that. Surely that’s what the best entertainment does?

I should add that I am also watching the remastered HD Baywatch on Prime so my bar may not be that high! Haha.
Seinfeld is easily the better sitcom, but I get what you are saying. You can start up any episode of Friends and just enjoy it for what it is.
 

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I love Friends, it doesn't have brilliant script, or stories etc...Only Fools and Horses is miles better in that regard for example and it's one of my top shows of all time, but thing about Friends is the chemistry of the cast, they make the show, not the story, script or whatever people who hate Friends talk about. Every one of them is funny af to me for different reasons.

Cast chemistry that was never repeated since then.
 

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I've been listening to a podcast called Friends with Friends recently (basically reviewing random episodes of friends) which has got me back into it a bit.
 

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I should add that I am also watching the remastered HD Baywatch on Prime so my bar may not be that high! Haha.
This is why we were born with 3 spare skins.
 

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I enjoyed Friends for what it is, still watch the occasional clips nowadays but can’t help but think most of the charms the originals have are lost or have aged terribly. Things like Joey being a dumb ass feck playboy, Ross’s obsessive neediness, Chandler’s homophobia etc... Plus the first few seasons were brilliant because they were a group of young, fresh, attractive people just starting the prime of their lives, by 6/7 especially after Chandler/Monica marriage, the relationship between them feels increasingly incestuous and as the writers ran out of ideas they gambled with silly shit like putting Rachel and Joey together, before getting Rachel and Ross back together at the finale despite both of them proving to be incompatible for seasons (her being an independent career woman while he wants to have the traditional waspy family).

If a sequel/spin off happens it’ll just be a pure cash grab like Joey was. Just let it stay dead.
 

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I love Friends, it doesn't have brilliant script, or stories etc...Only Fools and Horses is miles better in that regard for example and it's one of my top shows of all time, but thing about Friends is the chemistry of the cast, they make the show, not the story, script or whatever people who hate Friends talk about. Every one of them is funny af to me for different reasons.

Cast chemistry that was never repeated since then.
IASIP?
 

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I love Friends, it doesn't have brilliant script, or stories etc...Only Fools and Horses is miles better in that regard for example and it's one of my top shows of all time, but thing about Friends is the chemistry of the cast, they make the show, not the story, script or whatever people who hate Friends talk about. Every one of them is funny af to me for different reasons.

Cast chemistry that was never repeated since then.
I think most good comedies are built on great cast chemistry... As an example, Scrubs and Parks and Rec are two that have big ensemble casts with excellent chemistry between characters.
 

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Agree with most are saying in terms of cast chemistry and being able to watch randomly any episode at any time.

A reunion would be fun if they plan it properly.
 

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Just as an aside, Friends is also a great example of how much comedy writing on TV has changed over the last fifteen years. Comedies are granted more genre fluidity now (especially in this age of streaming) and Friends would have really benefited had it aired at any point over the last ten years. It's an accepted truth, almost, that sitcoms nowadays are not only allowed to use elements of drama almost at will, but also have fully-fledged dramatic (and occasionally surreal) episodes. Sure, you've always had shows which are comedy-dramas from the outset, but I'm talking more about shows like The Good Place, or BoJack Horseman, or Sex Education, or even elements of Rick & Morty and Master of None, where they come into the world as sitcoms but have such a keen eye for character development that the various plot points almost exclusively become dramatic storylines. I'm thinking about Chidi and Eleanor's relationship in The Good Place, or everything that happens in BoJack Horseman after the first season, or Dev's relationship with Francesca in Master of None's second season, or Rick & Morty's third season etc.

As much as the gay panic and class ignorance in Friends hasn't aged well, the later seasons' reluctance to raise the stakes and commit to grounding drama is probably what allowed some of the writing to go out of control - and it's probably why all six of the main characters end up as the most extreme versions of themselves. By season 10, Joey thinks he can talk to a stuffed bear on the phone and thinks that saying "bleh bleh boop" is speaking French, you know? That's not to say the show never had serious moments - like when Ross and Rachel argued long into the night and eventually broke up, or when Chandler was convinced Monica had left him for Richard - but those were often limited to the early days, when the show was about a bunch of 25 year-olds trying to make it in the big city, as opposed to it being about the lives of affluent adults on the edge of parenthood. I could easily watch any episode from the later seasons and it's still a very warm, comforting show, but it definitely lost something along the way.

Hell, even the Fresh Prince had moments like Carlton realising why he was pulled over with Will in season 1, or "How come he don't want me, man?" (which is the single best piece of acting in Will Smith's career) and 'Bullets Over Bel-Air' in its later seasons. I stand by what I said that it's the ultimate comfort-watch show, and that it's a testament to the writing that you can throw on any of its 200+ episodes and know exactly where you are in the time based on how the six characters are interacting with one another. It's just, it starts out in a version of the real world but by the middle seasons it's living in a fantasy and by the end it barely resembles life on Earth. I can't help but wonder what Friends would look like in this current era of dramedy shows where genre fluidity is more acceptable and where comedies only tend to have 13-episode seasons (at most). Maybe the "Chandler and Monica can't conceive" storyline is given a bit more weight, maybe Rachel leaves for Paris after all because Ross needs to be taught a lesson, etc.
 

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I know it’s probably quite low brow but I genuinely think it’s the greatest TV show of all time. As others have said, you can put on any episode and it’s instant comfort food. I’m going through quite a hard time at the moment with some mental health stuff and watching just a single episode of Friends makes me forget all that. Surely that’s what the best entertainment does?

I should add that I am also watching the remastered HD Baywatch on Prime so my bar may not be that high! Haha.
Scrubs is my go-to comfort watch. Better than Friends IMO. I don't mind Friends, it's great background TV which I think more and more people want these days. I could never sit down and binge it though. I don't like all the constant Ross-Rachel stuff, and it has some really annoying side characters. I just skip any episode with Emily, Phoebe's brother or Ben for example.
 

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Scrubs is my go-to comfort watch. Better than Friends IMO. I don't mind Friends, it's great background TV which I think more and more people want these days. I could never sit down and binge it though. I don't like all the constant Ross-Rachel stuff, and it has some really annoying side characters. I just skip any episode with Emily, Phoebe's brother or Ben for example.
I get that but the Holiday Armadillo is in a Ben episode.
 

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It was competent enough for its day even though only 1 of them could act.

Has anyone else seen the episodes without the canned laughter?

Not funny at all and borderline awkward.

It almost felt as if I was watching the school concert of Calamity Jane or the King and I.
 

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In fairness, every show with a laugh track looks really awkward without the laugh track being played.

That is how they are shot.
 

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That's true.

Which reminds me of my most controversial Friends' baed opinion: Ross is the best character on the show.
I got an even more controversial one, I think it's Rachel. Ross gets the flanderization treatment but Rachel actually grows as a character. She feels the most real and Aniston is the best actor on the show. Ross comes 2nd.
 

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I got an even more controversial one, I think it's Rachel. Ross gets the flanderization treatment but Rachel actually grows as a character. She feels the most real and Aniston is the best actor on the show. Ross comes 2nd.
Ross goes through a full mental breakdown, falls into depression and watches his life derail around him. He has by far the best story arcs on the show IMO. I always thought Rachel to be one of the least necessary characters tbh. Her growth mostly happens in the first season from what I remember, though it's been a little while since I've watched it.
 

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Ross goes through a full mental breakdown, falls into depression and watches his life derail around him. He has by far the best story arcs on the show IMO. I always thought Rachel to be one of the least necessary characters tbh. Her growth mostly happens in the first season from what I remember, though it's been a little while since I've watched it.
The show is basically about Ross so it makes sense that the story arc revolves around him the most. Rachel, the character, is however better written overall imo. She goes from a naive daddy's girl to earnig real world experience and stopping depending on family money to work for herself, finds her passion, works her way up from the bottom to a decent position, has a baby, is sort of a single mom but not really. As I've gotten older she's been the most relatable as her character felt the most real life.
 

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The show is basically about Ross so it makes sense that the story arc revolves around him the most. Rachel, the character, is however better written overall imo. She goes from a naive daddy's girl to earnig real world experience and stopping depending on family money to work for herself, finds her passion, works her way up from the bottom to a decent position, has a baby, is sort of a single mom but not really. As I've gotten older she's been the most relatable as her character felt the most real life.
Definitely Ross as the most relatable. Depression? Unemployment? He's a millennial icon.

How come HIMYM does not have its own thread?
Because it sucks and has the wettest blanket of a lead character in all of television history. Also, I'm pretty sure it does have it's own thread.
 

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Because it’s not very good?

It was decent the first few seasons thanks to NPH but they also ran out of idea and overdramatized everything. The last season was a car crash even without the ending.
First 5 or 6 seasons were quite good I think. Post Zoey it all went downhill.
 

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First 5 or 6 seasons were quite good I think. Post Zoey it all went downhill.
They all looked tired and ready to move on by that point, should have moved s8-10 arc to s5/6, and tie up everything in 7 for the ending to make sense. You can’t write a whole season focus on one wedding showing how the bride and groom had grown and tack on a few montage to the last episode to say, nope, they actually didn’t.
 

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Because it sucks and has the wettest blanket of a lead character in all of television history. Also, I'm pretty sure it does have it's own thread.
Wow. You really hate it!! And my apologies. I found the thread on HIMYM.
 

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Ross is great, and consistent through series 1-10.

Rachel is a cnut, let’s be honest. Decides she wants nothing to do with Ross. Then he gets with Julie and suddenly she wants him. He breaks up with her for Rachel and then she dumps him pretty much straight away. Then he gets with Emily and suddenly Rachel wants him again. He ruins his wedding day and divorces Emily before Rachel again decides she wants nothing to do with him. She’s quite horrible in fact.

Friends is good background TV but nothing more. The earlier seasons are much better.
 

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Ross is great, and consistent through series 1-10.

Rachel is a cnut, let’s be honest. Decides she wants nothing to do with Ross. Then he gets with Julie and suddenly she wants him. He breaks up with her for Rachel and then she dumps him pretty much straight away. Then he gets with Emily and suddenly Rachel wants him again. He ruins his wedding day and divorces Emily before Rachel again decides she wants nothing to do with him. She’s quite horrible in fact.

Friends is good background TV but nothing more. The earlier seasons are much better.
Also, Ross and Rachel were totes on a break. He didn't technically cheat. She did though- she slept with the dentist dude when he was engaged to her best friend.

Elmo, PM me about your Chaser experience. I wanna know how it went.
 

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Also, Ross and Rachel were totes on a break. He didn't technically cheat. She did though- she slept with the dentist dude when he was engaged to her best friend.

Elmo, PM me about your Chaser experience. I wanna know how it went.
And Rachel takes Emily’s ticket for the honeymoon!

Will do!
 

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I wish there was a way to recreate this without a laugh track, although if you simply remove it, the show gets really creepy. Still, it's probably the only show with a laugh track that I can watch again from time to time.
 

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They were all pretty terrible people except Phoebe tbh, and even Phoebe had a few horrid moments herself.

Ross is the ‘nice guy’ who blames other people for his own failures.

Rachel never loses her self-entitlement, it just took on a different form when she became financially independent

Joey never felt the least bit of remorse about the deceptions he pulled on women in his amorous ways.

Monica knows and has been called out on it repeatedly but still imposed her controlling freak persona on everybody else.

And Chandler is the guy with huge daddy issues who lashes out through his passive aggressive sarcasm and when called out on it guilt trip others by using his childhood trauma.