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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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must be super widespread then. I think they can't cope with it, far worse than they admit
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Definitely. They have by far the highest mortality rate (around 10%). Has to be much more cases then it is gone out.
Or it could conceivably be that Iran's medical infrastructure is very bad and that's the actual mortality rate. In line with people who don't recieve adequate medical care.
if you are interested to the topic, listen the potcast. Expert in pandemics talking
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/...JqNfgRlHCzpmQSah0Pj4YdAQT-9WrM1LJvSuwDT7VeABI
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/...JqNfgRlHCzpmQSah0Pj4YdAQT-9WrM1LJvSuwDT7VeABI
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It probably adds little to the rate, but it is still way to high. We are also talking about high government official dead and more of them being reported ill (those people certainly have an adequate medical care and are being tested as opposed to the rest of the country). I mean, out of around 250 cases in the whole country, you have more then 5 high profile people among them. That can't be right for sure.
Meaning that there are certainly much more cases among regular population.
With regards to Iran, I think they are just reporting mostly critical cases which is why the death rate is so high. There's probably so many that have it but symptoms are so mild they haven't even been tested for it to confirm
Yeah, that is most likely.
This will be carnage.
First case in Lithuania, woman who has travelled back from Verona. Feck.
I am actually in Lagos. Time to book my flight back to Birmingham.
If even a quarter of the population get infected, with a mortality rate of 2%, we are looking at over a hundred thousand casualties.
If even a quarter of the population get infected, with a mortality rate of 2%, we are looking at over a hundred thousand casualties.
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I wonder if this is how the apocalypse begins. It just creeps on us, everybody joking as things get worse, in denial about it until suddenly...boom! It explodes, tens of thousands infected, dying, rioting, hysteria.
feck...crazy times ahead perhaps.
feck...crazy times ahead perhaps.
Nope, not gonna happen.
Ask Iran (or was it Pakistan?). They've basically had the 10 plagues thrown at them.
I don't know if not gonna happen the appocaliptic scenario, but I believe that millions will die and more than one of our circles (family, friends, coworkers, etc..) in these days with so much mobility and the easy way is transmitted, is just a matter of stadistics
That would still be something. It's amazing how many filthy feckers cough and sneeze without putting their hands over their mouths.
Bloody hell, the markets have started falling 
. Thats my liquidity killed for the next 6 months. Its even worse than when the H1N1 virus hit.
. Thats my liquidity killed for the next 6 months. Its even worse than when the H1N1 virus hit.Umm, they are not supposed to put their hands over their mouths. I am sure you know that, but phrasing is important in this thread
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Both right
Rats had the bubonic plague, fleas sucked the infected blood and they inflected the humans when they jumped from the rat to the human
black death came from the rats and the fleas were the transmiters. But rats could transmit directly to humans too
I think it's feasible that the mortality rate is well below 1%, surely there are millions of people who don't show symptons (already proven), or barely have anything and don't report themselves.
It will be interesting to see how well it spreads in a hot country.
There was always a global recession coming at some point soon, this could well be the trigger.Bloody hell, the markets have started falling
If this thing disappears as quickly as it came then the rebound may be very profitable for some.
That happens in all illnesess, we can only work with the numbers we know, like flu, like ebola, like SARS, etc...right now is 3.4% and people has way more awarness than any other common sickness
Singapore is over 30 and kwait and hong kong over 20. But yes, a corona type virus doesn't fare well on hot weather. But the first wave of flu was in spring and it went down a lot in cases on summer but what was devastating, was the winter after when surged with virulence killing millions
I suppose that's fair, the blood was from the rats.
Edit: this suggests it was human fleas and lice.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42690577
If it prevents Liverpool from lifting the Premier League trophy, it will all be worth it. At the very least, they won't be having any open top bus parades.
Isn't nice when 2 people are equally right?
Not when I'm trying to be a smart ass! Thanks a lot...Isn't nice when 2 people are equally right?
Important to note that 94,5% of the total number of infected comes out of China, and I simply don't trust any numbers that come from them (each to their own, I guess). Iran, definitely likewise. If you look at South Korea, albeit a sample size of only 2k, the mortality rate is at 0,65%.
Yes, mortality will vary and the stronger the health system the better. Will need to see if they collpase. Is not the same treating 65.000 in hubei than 2000 in the whole corea.
Also, will see if it spreads out in countries in developement with poor health care system (and collapsed) . I know that we tend to be self centered and we think in our personal circumstances, but the data is global and for now is what it is
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Yeah obviously, agreed. I think it could get much worse if it spreads in those areas, not good to see a case reported in Nigeria today.
I am pesimistic realistic always, but i think is quite unavoidable that will be the worst epidemic/pandemic of the XXI century till today
So what's the story with how this plays out then?
Im not a medical mind at all.
How does this kind of thing go away?
Does it go away ?
Does it become a flu type thing that just remains a risk?
Is it going to get stronger and wipe out half the planets population?
Is it only a death risk for really sick old people?
Im not a medical mind at all.
How does this kind of thing go away?
Does it go away ?
Does it become a flu type thing that just remains a risk?
Is it going to get stronger and wipe out half the planets population?
Is it only a death risk for really sick old people?