SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[LawCharltonBest]

Excuse my ignorance

But China are saying they’re well past the peak of Coronavirus, and it’s starting to slowly die out there day by day.

So, why are Europe still in “OMG we’re going to get worse over the next few months” mode?

If the country where it originated, the least prepared country and one of the most overcrowded countries has almost killed off the disease in 3 months, why are we all expecting it to be much worse here? We were more prepared and further from the source

 

[horsechoker]

In case of a prison they wont waste bullets. They'd just weld it shut. And come ack after a month.

What if the prisoners develop herd immunity survive while the rest of the population doesn't?

Also would that make a good movie?

 

[Sarni]

I do not get why we have halted community testing. At all. Even without what the WHO is saying. I get our tactic of delay phase, community testing can be a vital tool to get that done. There are so many ways it would be beneficial.
An accurate estimate of the spread of this thing will get more people taking it seriously. I understand that there is fear of inducing panic but if people aren't vigilant with social isolation then we will not flatten that curve.
Also is helps identify hot spots and resource allocation in terms of mobilising doctors, with increasing trends making it more likely that elective theatres are turned into makeshift ICU beds, rota planning done early with local services including media etc utilised to ensure that we can assist in voluntary services as needed.Rather than that we are just waiting for things to dramatically and exponentially get worse. Telling people to self-isolate we have no idea on demographics and distribution of this thing.

Cost

 

[Sarni]

Excuse my ignorance

But China are saying they’re well past the peak of Coronavirus, and it’s starting to die out there.

So, why are Europe still in “OMG we’re going to get worse over the next few months” mode?

If the country where it originated, the least prepared country and one of the most overcrowded countries has almost killed off the disease in 3 months, why are we all expecting it to be much worse here? We were more prepared and further from the source

China started isolating people earlier and have used measures which will probably not work as well in Europe. Also, cases were largely limited to one region while in Europe it's all over the place with countries using different approaches. I don't think we were prepared at all to be honest.

For instance, UK's approach of allowing it to spread basically means that we can't have Europe open for a while because it'll be coming back. What China have done is basically lock people at home, test extensively and limit social contacts as much as they could, across the country. We already know we won't do that in Europe.

 

[The Firestarter]

What if the prisoners develop herd immunity survive while the rest of the population doesn't?

Also would that make a good movie?

If they develop herd immunity to hunger and thirst as well, then Kimmy J is fecked.

 

[Prometheus]

Now why didn't the government tell us the source of their science was footman447 from youtube. That would have reassured us all.

 

[horsechoker]

If they develop herd immunity to hunger and thirst as well, then Kimmy J is fecked.

I wonder how long they could survive on what's in the prison kitchens

 

[Berbaclass]

Excuse my ignorance

But China are saying they’re well past the peak of Coronavirus, and it’s starting to slowly die out there day by day.

So, why are Europe still in “OMG we’re going to get worse over the next few months” mode?

If the country where it originated, the least prepared country and one of the most overcrowded countries has almost killed off the disease in 3 months, why are we all expecting it to be much worse here? We were more prepared and further from the source

China imposed far greater measures as far as I’m aware.

 

[The Firestarter]

I wonder how long they could survive on what's in the prison kitchens

If they manage to get out from the cells then probably rice and some good old cannibalism may get them through.

 

[Ian Reus]

My lab has just started to try to develop a vaccine to Covid based on a previously successful method used against influenza and C. difficile. It’s a long shot, and we haven’t yet got any funding for it but considering it’s an established methodology, it shouldn’t take long until we can test its efficacy in animal models.

I would imagine all laboratories in the world have now turned their microscopes to this in a race against time for funding to find a vaccine.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Incredible how the PM/Government stance is more compeltely different from all of 4 days ago.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

Excuse my ignorance

But China are saying they’re well past the peak of Coronavirus, and it’s starting to slowly die out there day by day.

So, why are Europe still in “OMG we’re going to get worse over the next few months” mode?

If the country where it originated, the least prepared country and one of the most overcrowded countries has almost killed off the disease in 3 months, why are we all expecting it to be much worse here? We were more prepared and further from the source

Because in the end, China had to lock down whole communities with enforcers to get it to stop.

We're talking military on the streets, and officials welding apartment doors shut.

Such measures are unlikely to happen here. And especially not in America where citizens are armed!

 

[Fully Fledged]

I get flu and pneumonia vaccines so these new measure are relevant to me.

 

[11101]

Every day I am awaiting Italy data in fear. It will break 4000/400 today, won't it?

Thankfully you were wrong

3233 and 349. Cases are down, deaths are down, recoveries are up.

Hope its not a one off.

 

[The Firestarter]

Because in the end, China had to lock down whole communities with enforcers to get it to stop.

We're talking military on the streets, and officials welding apartment doors shut.

Such measures are unlikely to happen here. And especially not in America where citizens are armed!

They have AR-15s , the government has tanks and helicopters.

 

[I_live_cement]

Every day I am awaiting Italy data in fear. It will break 4000/400 today, won't it?

3,233/349

According to this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Charlie Foley]

They have AR-15s , the government has tanks and helicopters.

I love Jim Jefferies’ thing “you realise you’re bringing guns to a drone fight right?”

 

[Jacko21]

Why?

I’m in the ‘serious health condition’ bracket.

Thankfully I already work remote.

 

[sullydnl]

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[Dr. Dwayne]

I would imagine all laboratories in the world have now turned their microscopes to this in a race against time for funding to find a vaccine.

Blue planes flying everywhere

 

[Deery]

Can’t believe Johnson hasn’t closed the schools I’ve got a 5 year old nephew with type 1 diabetes he’s high risk, this is very irresponsible leadership from the prime minister. Can’t he see he’s putting lives at risk? Or does he care?

 

[utdalltheway]

It really will be like the Walking Dead TV show in the US if it gets really bad

A lot of guns and people being antsy, not a good combo.
My main fear is being stuck at home with the family and she's watching the walking dead and talking dead shows. Does my feckin head in.

 

[Pagh Wraith]

Thankfully you were wrong

3233 and 349. Cases are down, deaths are down, recoveries are up.

Hope its not a one off.

I'd probably wait until next morning to be sure about today's numbers. Worldometer is being updated continuously.

 

[CassiusClaymore]

Putting a lot of faith in the British Public to do the right thing. The same British Public fighting over toilet rolls.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

A lot of guns and people being antsy, not a good combo.
My main fear is being stuck at home with the family and she's watching the walking dead and talking dead shows. Does my feckin head in.

You need any guns, mate?

 

[Josep Dowling]

He's a feckin awful speaker I'm sorry. Just waffling.

I thought the same. It sounded like he didn’t really know what he was there for. Surely they put a tv screen up so he can read the speech?

 

[Steven Seagull]

They should be updating this every day so people are less alarmed at the changes.

 

[Berbaclass]

Putting a lot of faith in the British Public to do the right thing. The same British Public fighting over toilet rolls.

Exactly it’s madness

If they don’t want people to go out socially to certain places they have to power to close them. Bizarre that they’ve chosen not to do so.

 

[Stactix]

Avoid non essential travel & contact with others.
Work from home if you can but oh Schools are open.
Bit contradictory there.

 

[mu4c_20le]

They should be updating this every day so people are less alarmed at the changes.

Caf or the British public?

 

[dwd]

I’m in the ‘serious health condition’ bracket.

Thankfully I already work remote.

Let us know if you need any help

 

[Fooza]

Avoid non essential travel & contact with others.
Work from home if you can but oh Schools are open.
Bit contradictory there.

It does sound contradictory, you rather go full throttle or not at all. This virus will keep spreading, so I'm not sure what message they're saying here.

 

[Conor]

Excuse my ignorance

But China are saying they’re well past the peak of Coronavirus, and it’s starting to slowly die out there day by day.

So, why are Europe still in “OMG we’re going to get worse over the next few months” mode?

If the country where it originated, the least prepared country and one of the most overcrowded countries has almost killed off the disease in 3 months, why are we all expecting it to be much worse here? We were more prepared and further from the source

Why would you say they are the least prepared country? They are probably the best equipped country to deal with something like this, given their political set up, twinned with the fact that they essentially produce everything in the world.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

They have AR-15s , the government has tanks and helicopters.

Awaiting official NRA plans to shoot the Coronavirus.

 

[11101]

I'd probably wait until next morning to be sure about today's numbers. Worldometer is being updated continuously.

I go off the numbers they give in the government press conference. Two regions are missing but they are not badly hit areas.

 

[MikeKing]

Oh man. Doesn't make any sense. At the start he says the bucket represents the population who all has the capacity to get sick. At the end he said the bucket will stay full, but it will only stay full if everyone in it gets infected due to not quarantining early. He is just assuming everyone in the bucket needs treatment, that wont happen if you stop the spread. Isolating people is the only possibility to stop the spread. "Slow it down when we really need to"? Infect everyone, then quarantine them? What will that slow down? Nothing, as a lot more people will be sick at the same time, with no treatment available to many. It will kill more vulnerable people than necessary.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Awaiting official NRA plans to shoot the Coronavirus.

We need more good guys with coronavirus.

 

[I_live_cement]

Putting a lot of faith in the British Public to do the right thing. The same British Public fighting over toilet rolls.

That's worldwide mate.

Gives me slightly more confidence in the UKs strategy wrt behavioural science.

 

[Baxter]

Putting a lot of faith in the British Public to do the right thing. The same British Public fighting over toilet rolls.

On doing the right thing. Probably shouldn't been out for a drink this weekend myself, but it was shocking to see so many blokes going for a piss and leaving without washing their hands.

My workplace hasn’t told us to work from home yet. However we’re meant to stay 2m away from each other (impossible with our desk placement) and avoid the kitchen area etc. Seems to me that it’s more hassle than just trusting people to work from home.

 

[justboy68]

They admitted that the UK was closer in its timeframe to Italy than they initially thought, which explains why they are changing gears so quickly. It's frustrating though how every step of the way, the majority of governments have been behind the curve and playing catch up. They keep repeating how it is a fast moving situation, yet don't seem to learn their lesson from this. Having to give different advice every other day is going to confuse and potentially discourage people from paying attention. Make the strategy clear and simple from the start and change course as sporadically as you can if you want effective public compliance.

Putting trust in the public at large to do the right thing rather than enforce the new rules more actively is a risky decision. Hopefully it will work, however there's a lot of people unfortunately under financial strain to go to work and get that vital paycheck, who will be motivated to ignore this new 14 day household isolation measure.