The spread has been going on for some time now. Half the countries in Africa have diagnosed covid-19....
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Are they expecting it to mutate and comeback?
Not odd at all. At least some of what you're wondering is already known.
https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...na-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
I can't imagine being told that this is the new normal.
Even if it does, we'll be in a far better position to tackle it than we are now. Complacency has killed so many.
Nope, one of the schools I work at has 10 off, this is a 2 form school. 350-400 pupils Primary level.
Baring in mind the incubation period and the 2 week 'isolation period' Very likely to spread like wild fire, then hits all the parents/grand parents picking kids up.
Should of been closed last week.
I think those percentages are all about to be obsolete within the next few weeks. So far, those percentages are based on the vast majority of people getting the care and treatment they need. Now, as the demand exceeds capacity mortality rates will start converging towards the number of people who need a) intensive care b) eventually those who just need some care at all (i.e. oxygen)
Because our government is fecking dumb. They barley have any tests. Its going to get so bad here. Billions of people living so close to each other.
Thats "IF" kids can actually be contageous.
Seems like an painfully long and cruel collapse of civilisation.
If this is here to stay and here to stay at current mortality rates, seems like it'll whittle us down year by year (not in terms of numbers maybe but in terms of where we currently stand in quality of life - especially the west).
Very possible depending on where we're talking about, although 'obsolete' might not be the correct term, especially to use broadly.
Could you link a source if you can? Curious to see the details.
People always expected apocalypse to look like nuclear war or getting hit by a comet but like everything else in life, even the end of times is going to be a long, painfully boring and drawn out process.
Lunacy. How on earth you want to contain this while at the same time having hundreds and in some cases thousands of children who could all carry it bouncing off each other at schools is beyond me. Here in Denmark, everything shut down on Monday with almost every child being kept home from Thursday already.
Whos looking after the kids?
Why not? I’m in the state sector and I can empathise
There are academies threatening the same measures.
Nope, but the situation on the ground is dire atm.
I work in a small private independent and we currently have 4 members of staff in school and have approximately 15 kids in attendance today. We've had to collapse the timetable, but as most of the children have learning difficulties or behavioural issues keeping them occupied for a full school day is a challenge in itself. My gf is a TA at the mainstream school up the road and yesterday they had 19 staff absences. We cant sustain this for much longer.
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So they are still gathering in large numbers?
What happens when all teaching staff are forced to self isolation because of the new guidelines?
It will happen, sooner rather than later. I'll be disgusted if schools are still open in a weeks time, the government are gambling with our health by not making the obvious decision.
Even ignoring that possibility, the parents collecting kids is enough to spread like wildfire, one of the schools I work at is in the middle of a housing estate, very old building with 2 smallish playgrounds one on either side. Those playgrounds fill with parents on collection/drop off.
They will close of course but its all about trying to keep the NHS strong, you anser me who looks after all these kids? ITs going to be parents, alot of whom are doctors and nurses and other emergency services personel. There are no right or wrong things here because no one knows, Spain and Italy have been in lockdown and still their infection rates are rising.
Is it known yet if interpersonal transmission can occur before completion of the incubation period? Or is data on it still lacking.
I agree that in an ideal situation everyone would issolate and stay at home but in the real world thats simply not possible. We arent going to fix this any time soon, its all about managing it.
The Marseille doctor who began testing patients with covid 19(only 24 of them) with Cloroquine is said to have some positive and encouraging results
It can, up to 2 days before symptoms show.
It's unlikely to spread like wildfire in that situation.
I'm not claiming I'm right or wrong but as it stands this is not sustainable. It makes us very vulnerable in the schools and a lot of staff here have children who's schools have had to close.
The government should have intervened a week a go and reduced the burden on schools. I know the priority has to be the NHS staff but if you force people to self isolate you're essentially shutting the schools without making an official decision, therefore avoiding any negative backlash.
What makes you think they can't be contagious?
Right now, kids are supposed to be in school, in tight confines with a bunch of other kids, the government say that is fine.
At the same time, all grassroots football has been shut down, because a kid out in the open on a large football pitch with 21 other kids is a danger.
And then people wonder why so many are confused.
At the same time, all grassroots football has been shut down, because a kid out in the open on a large football pitch with 21 other kids is a danger.
And then people wonder why so many are confused.
I'm really hoping it dies out in 4-6 weeks and we can get back to normal. I mean life isn't so terrible right now but it used to be so much better.
Wow.
All reports say kids are very much contagious, but don't seem to display symptoms or very limited symptoms.
The children are most likely the cause of a lot of the transmission.
No way it will die out in 4-6 weeks. This is just the beginning.
I think so as well but prefer to live in denial. This may be new reality for a long long while.
Then again I wouldn't be surprised if it slows down in those 6 weeks and they declare pandemic is over. People will still die but at a slower rate and with less publicity.
I think the majority of people are going to be self isolating anyway, I am not saying its perfect but I can see BJs thinking behind it.
I remember reading that China claimed yes but that no one else has confirmed it. Take it with a grain of salt. I think they might have made that conclusion based on educated guesses.
But general consensus is 'looks an awful lot like yes'.
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Kids seem so far to be asymptomatic, so while they can carry the virus they dont know if they are contageous. There is some thought that as lungs arnt fully developed till near adult hood that the virus cant get hold in a child. But like alot of things there is no evidence. But the fact that there has not been one child under 10 reported to die, and only a tiny percentage of people under 20 dying there is definitely somthing there.
No chance of that happening. Even if you locked the entire world inside their homes from tomorrow you have a 14 day incubation period, and then another 14 days for anybody who is in that house with them. That's 4 weeks right there.
It's far from perfect.
I would not be surprised if later investigations find schools were a hotbed for rapid transmission. The kids don't understand the severity of the situation and are grabbing each other and all sorts. We are literally having to enforce handwashing under threat of suspension if they refuse.
Yes but that doesn't mean that they can't spread it. The vast majority of under 30s are largely asymptomatic, but they're also thought to be the largest spreaders of this virus
78,088 have recovered from this. Number is probably way higher.