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It's simple, we kill the batIf the original bat wasn't eaten, maybe finding it and killing it will save the world.
It's simple, we kill the batIf the original bat wasn't eaten, maybe finding it and killing it will save the world.
The problem is that if the bat eats a bit of fruit and then drops it, then some other animal eats it and it gets in the system.Stop eating Bats?
My reply was tongue in cheek, but you are right. Transmission comes from prolonged close contact.I don't think consumption is the main mode of transmission either for animals or humans (could be wrong).
Not sure how well Africa is doing to be honest and where they are with testing. I'm not that concerned about catching it myself, I think there's a very good chance I'll have it within the next year from what I've seen, I'm concerned about not getting medical help (hopefully I won't need it) or passing it to relatives (so I'd keep myself away from them after return anyway). Besides, I just want to go to US way more than I want to go to Zanzibar anyway.The irony, considering Africa has got off relatively lightly thus far while America's response has potentially been the worst of any country up til now.
We almost never eat any animals without preparation though and I'd assume most viruses would die in very high temperatures anyway? Or is that not the case?The problem is that if the bat eats a bit of fruit and then drops it, then some other animal eats it and it gets in the system.
The film Contaigon basically demonstrated this. A bat dropped a piece of fruit it was eating into a pig farm which was then eaten by someone and so the disease took off.
Granted though, they should close them wet markets (they wont) to lower the probability of something happening. But like i say there are other ways of the virus entering the system.
In fairness loads of people said a pandemic was just a question of when.
Well if it’s proven the disease has come from China and from a wet market I expect a lot of pressure from the Western world on China to do something about it. The problem is they are blaming America for it already. The political side of this is as much concerning as the actual outbreak.The problem is that if the bat eats a bit of fruit and then drops it, then some other animal eats it and it gets in the system.
The film Contaigon basically demonstrated this. A bat dropped a piece of fruit it was eating into a pig farm which was then eaten by someone and so the disease took off.
Granted though, they should close them wet markets (they wont) to lower the probability of something happening. But like i say there are other ways of the virus entering the system.
In fairness loads of people said a pandemic was just a question of when.
I should be alright then, I’m only going for a weekGovernment advising that we don't travel abroad for 30 days. That's helpful.
Correct. This passed from a bat to a secondary animal then passed onto humans. They are 100% sure it wasn’t consumption it was live animals that had diseases passing it alongStop eating the things that eat the bats?
I'm not sure about viruses but many bacterias are thermophilic, so you would have to go way beyond 120°c to bother them.We almost never eat any animals without preparation though and I'd assume most viruses would die in very high temperatures anyway? Or is that not the case?
Sydney Australia is plagued with fruit Bats. Large parts of Australia has massive colonies of fruit bats. Huge things. They call them Flying Foxes. They crap everywhere yet Australia has not had any instances of these infections.The problem is that if the bat eats a bit of fruit and then drops it, then some other animal eats it and it gets in the system.
The film Contaigon basically demonstrated this. A bat dropped a piece of fruit it was eating into a pig farm which was then eaten by someone and so the disease took off.
Granted though, they should close them wet markets (they wont) to lower the probability of something happening. But like i say there are other ways of the virus entering the system.
In fairness loads of people said a pandemic was just a question of when.
Well it didn't turn out like the in China watching the numbers from past few days. By the looks of it, China and South Korea are doing pretty good after similar lockdown(not even that close as I suggested I think), but I guess we will see it in few weeks. Watching the China's model it doesn't look as that easy to spread as we here seem to think, IMO.Even 28 days wouldn't work. You have households with 8+ people in it and it could well spread only every 5 days. There is no dream sprint scenario outside of science fiction or a miracle. Even those countries that have done the most stringent lockdowns, reducing the growth in cases, and are going to have to take very precise, carefully planned steps for months, if not a year.
People need to remember we cannot test who has had the virus yet. We can only test who has the virus.
Yeah, there's zero chance you can get it. It's just too small for standard photography.Silly Question time: I normally go around at night taking photos in my hometown. I do it alone and if I don't touch anything there's zero chance I can get this, right?
The population density is totally different, these viruses don't easily go from animals to humans, so you need to have an awful lot of contact. For example several millions of people surrounded by a tropical forest.Sydney Australia is plagued with fruit Bats. Large parts of Australia has massive colonies of fruit bats. Huge things. They call them Flying Foxes. They crap everywhere yet Australia has not had any instances of these infections.
I should be alright then, I’m only going for a week
I should be alright then, I’m only going for a week
Yeah, there's zero chance you can get it. It's just too small for standard photography.
Why do you think so?Dude, get the hell out of there. Do it now.
I'm beginning to think that this guy isn't on the same page as anyone else. He also said earlier that Taiwan didn't close their schools, and they did alright but according to the Guardian, the schools were already closed for lunar new year (which was extended), when additional Taiwanese measures were put in place.Tweet
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People are very undisciplined in those countries. In Kosovo the first case was on Friday, now there are around 20. The government has been putting individual cities in quarantine and seems to be working with almost all new cases coming from outside of Kosovo. Which is not they are doing a total ban of traveling. Probably too late.If I am being honest, I thought us from the Balkans (Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo) would at least be easy to quarantine due to the majority of the population's experience with wartime quarantine. However, it just has not been working so far and it seems that sterner measures will be needed here.
If we can stay home, what chances are there of people in the West listening to advice en masse? Slim to none, I would say.
I should be alright then, I’m only going for a week
I should be alright then, I’m only going for a week
Yes and this is what surprises me.People are very undisciplined in those countries. In Kosovo the first case was on Friday, now there are around 20. The government has been putting individual cities in quarantine and seems to be working with almost all new cases coming from outside of Kosovo. Which is not they are doing a total ban of traveling. Probably too late.
In fact, his numbers are farcical. A week ago, on Sky, he said he expected 40,000,000 people in the UK to catch it. Based on 'only' 20,000 deaths with a 3% CFR, that means only 600,000 or so will catch it. He's deluded, deliberately misinforming (to lessen panic maybe), or both.I'm beginning to think that this guy isn't on the same page as anyone else. He also said earlier that Taiwan didn't close their schools, and they did alright but according to the Guardian, the schools were already closed for lunar new year (which was extended), when additional Taiwanese measures were put in place.
It wasn't Bruce Wayne who spread the virus!Fixed
I should be alright then, I’m only going for a week
Nobody kills the bat, man.It's simple, we kill the bat
based on this(part B), unless you were extremely precise, you'd also eliminate dogs, cats, anteaters, horses, zebras, rhinos, whales, pigs, deer, camels, cows, and sheepWhy not invent a time machine to go back and stop the evolution of the bats.
I'd guess that they meant to say Singapore who didn't close schools but had as much success as slowing spread as those that did.I'm beginning to think that this guy isn't on the same page as anyone else. He also said earlier that Taiwan didn't close their schools, and they did alright but according to the Guardian, the schools were already closed for lunar new year (which was extended), when additional Taiwanese measures were put in place.
Possible, but him accidentally saying the 'wrong thing' is becoming rather common.I'd guess that they meant to say Singapore who didn't close schools but had as much success as slowing spread as those that did.
It's poor indeed.Possible, but him accidentally saying the 'wrong thing' is becoming rather common.