Players out of contact at 30th june cant play?
Ssn did a bit of discussion on this yesterday and Bournemouth have 3 or 4, their captain and fraser included
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Ssn did a bit of discussion on this yesterday and Bournemouth have 3 or 4, their captain and fraser included
Not at the expense of messing up next season. There has to be a cut off point imo. If its not safe to start playing by May/June then call it off
Again, what are the odds that it isn't safe to play by June but it would be mid August when the new season should start? That's a very specific timeframe and only one of hundred possible outcomes. Once next season is compromised you're fecked either way.
When exactly do you expect to finish the season? What happens when players are out of contract on July 1st? What happens if players are stuck in their home country?
Cancelling the season is the fairest way, it’s already ruined. Liverpool fans need not worry because they will get the trophy no matter what, mainly because nobody wants to put up with their incessant complaining and moaning so everyone will agree to let them have it just so they shut the feck up. Most people already considers the season over anyway.
It’s imperative that we start next season as normal as possible, given the circumstances.
It’s imperative that we start next season as normal as possible, given the circumstances.
Its clear if we get to a point where it affects next season the fairest thing to do is null and void the Season. But it has to follow right down the Football pyramid meaning all leagues below the PL also need to be declared null and void.
If this rumbles on and it affects next season anyway then so be it, but you cant just hang onto this Season forever.
IMO Serie A is going to be the benchmark. If it is declared null and void then all the other leagues will follow like dominoes.
If this rumbles on and it affects next season anyway then so be it, but you cant just hang onto this Season forever.
IMO Serie A is going to be the benchmark. If it is declared null and void then all the other leagues will follow like dominoes.
Whenever it's safe to play football again.
Figure something out, not exactly hard to modify contracts in certain circumstances when there's a will to find a solution from both parties.
Which players are stuck right now? There'll be a travel ban as long as there's a football ban.
This is just getting tiresome since you'll just question my solution and I'll question yours when reality is that no one has a clue what's gonna happen or when this situation will clear up.
I agree with the last bit as in its all just guesswork however I would say its not just easy to modify players, managers and coaches contacts to suit. The same with loans.
A point will come where they have to call it a day (if we have restrictions for the long term). Despite what they it won't be indefinite. Think that's pretty obvious.
To the lawyers/legal experts in here:
I see people claiming that there will be huge legal ramifications if they make this season void. But if this is actually true, then what about the legal ramifications of the following:
- Scrapping domestic cups next season
- Scrapping European cups next season
- Messing with player contracts because of the madness that will be the next transfer window
- Cancelling next season entirely
And then there's the TV deals. I know for a fact that most networks around the work buy the right to broadcast PL games for up to 6 years at a time. Will they be willing to potentially sacrifice 38 rounds of football + domestic cups in favor of 9 rounds of football? Surely when presented with these options, they will choose the former alternative if they have to make a choice. And in such a case, can they really sue the FA etc? That seems incredibly unreasonable to me.
I see people claiming that there will be huge legal ramifications if they make this season void. But if this is actually true, then what about the legal ramifications of the following:
- Scrapping domestic cups next season
- Scrapping European cups next season
- Messing with player contracts because of the madness that will be the next transfer window
- Cancelling next season entirely
And then there's the TV deals. I know for a fact that most networks around the work buy the right to broadcast PL games for up to 6 years at a time. Will they be willing to potentially sacrifice 38 rounds of football + domestic cups in favor of 9 rounds of football? Surely when presented with these options, they will choose the former alternative if they have to make a choice. And in such a case, can they really sue the FA etc? That seems incredibly unreasonable to me.
At what point would you accept that completing the current season is no longer a priority, scraping it entirely and begin shifting focus to the following season?
Cancelling next season, or shortening it will see dozens maybe more clubs close forever. Currently most people seem to be suggesting that this would be the lesser evil as finishing this season is more important.
The two options proponents seem keen on are:
a) Cancelling next season
b) Shortening it
Most clubs simply would not survive with the loss of attendance based and TV revenue associated to losing even half a season. Integrity of this season is going to mean jack shit if next year we lose half the clubs, because of our selfish desires. Fact is that if we cant start up and finish the season before August/September it will never happen, or shouldn't anyway. A lot of other sports are looking at minimum 3 months lay off of training, etc, to avoid any issues with the virus. That means in theory it could happen by around that time frame, the FA though are trying to give as much chance as they can, rightly so, but all the evidence is that 3 months down the line we might have just reached the dropping point of infections. There will likely still be no vaccine/cure.
Conversely there wouldn't be these mental gymnastics to void the season as Manchester FC would be handed the title despite not mathematically winning it. BlueMoon and Redcafe celebrate as one brotherhood.
When did we start operating under the assumption that finishing this season would mean cancelling cups next season? Kind of runs contrary to the point if anyone tells you this.
Also the legal ramifications for not completing this season is uncertain because there's no precedent to go on. The ramifications are more financial. The TV companies don't want to bear the financial burden of an uncompleted season and are pushing the league to finish it or refund for the lost 25% of the season (750m). They want to finish this one if possible and finish the next season. They aren't putting one over the other
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The amount of scousers on this forum is unbelievable. Bore off
I wouldn't want the title if we've not won it, it would be embarrassing. But maybe if we'd gone so long without, we'd be equally as desperate and showing a shocking lack of awareness for the world, I'd hope not though.Conversely there wouldn't be these mental gymnastics to void the season as Manchester FC would be handed the title despite not mathematically winning it. BlueMoon and Redcafe celebrate as one brotherhood.
Some people seem to be of the opinion that finishing this season trumps the entirety of next season. Some people also seem to think that we can have both, even if we can't start playing football before September.
Both of the above are dumb, but I got downvoted to hell on Reddit for merely suggesting this
Not sure as it will require more thought by the authorities. These are all extraordinary times so what they do for 20/21 and 21/22 will probably need to be decided. We haven't decided what happens before that yet (void, etc).
I would think it's very hard to sue over an "Act of God".
With the football works caught in a fix at both ends( one season or the other has to change) I dont see much of a legal case for clubs.
mate, you’re an epic cnut.
29th May, Heysel disaster anniversary. Just giving you some advance notice so you can wind it in on that day.
I think that's what's annoying me most about the Scouse lot. If it's practical to finish the season great. Do it. But one must accept there has to be a point where that simply isn't possible and clubs should then unite in looking to cancel the season or come up with a solution to resolve the key issues. It would seem likely if we get to that the only agreement which would keep things fair would be to void it.
I'm not sure why that's difficult for some of them to accept.
According to Liverpool fans six years could probably be enough.
This is laughable. Your team has one youth player in it. It's not been built anything like United's. Your club is awful at youth development.
The whole post is a mess. Dear me.
they’re coming across as a bunch of self interested nob ends. It’s honestly embarrassing to see them continuing to argue something so trivial in the grand scheme of things. It must be devastating for them to see how little the rest of the football world thinks of their club
I agree, and he should probably stop commenting completely as the more he comments the more he shows he's an epic cnut.
You’ve murdered them with that gag - touché!According to Liverpool fans six years could probably be enough.
The would rather the whole world burn than miss out on the league
+ a preseason after months off
Just fecking give it the moaning cnuts then. It's tiresome. We will never hear the end of it otherwise and they'll appeal it until the cows come home.
tbf, I am enjoying logging on every so often and seeing what pearls of wisdom the resident bin dippers have come up with now.I agree, and he should probably stop commenting completely as the more he comments the more he shows he's an epic cnut.
It’s hilarious with everything going on in the world that this mob are still sat there sweating the outcome of a league title.
for their sanity, I kind of hope the win it because it will mentally break them if not.
actually, feck them
This is actually my stance on it.
They’ve irritated everyone so much that it’s easier just to let them have it.
It will be hilarious because there won’t be any pomp and ceremony around it anyway.
Literally the best way for the vermin to win it.
I’m sure there’s Dippers on here that would infect their families with Covid-18 if it meant winning the league.
Is that worse than actually almost enjoying this pandemic and getting joy out of us missing out on the title?
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Please don't act like Utd fans are somehow morally more responsible or anything of that sort than Liverpool fans.Mastadon said:
Gag? Oh. Anyway, if it takes six years then that's fine by me (considering there won't have been any PL games for 5 years at least).You’ve murdered them with that gag - touché!
Not sure why you are conflating two separate points. You potentially missing out on the title is deemed to be hilarious by the entire football world. There is nothing funny about Coronavirus.
I mean English clubs once spent that long not in European competition, so probably won’t be too bad.
So, can't we agree that literally everyone agrees that public health goes first and there's nothing funny about the virus, but that i) Utd fans would find it an hilarious side effect if we don't win it and ii) most Liverpool fans are, in subordinate order, desperate to get the season finished? I don't see anything wrong with that.
Christ. There's my cue to exit
Main point being if we don't play for 5/6 years I still want this number 19 from this season. Thanks Christina.
The difference is we are having a casual laugh and joke about you potentially not winning it. Your mob seem to be getting quite agitated by the notion of it not being finished, with some muppets calling into question the integrity of the league. I mean, fecking come on! There is no conspiracy against LFC, just a global pandemic.