SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[Pexbo]

Boris looked like he just he swallowed a cup of cold sick when he was asked about zero hour contracts being covered.

 

[MackRobinson]

Feck, they’ll hit 1,000 deaths in a day very soon the way it’s going. Are the restrictive measures not having any effect?

More than likely it's already spread out of control. The incubation period for the virus can be up to 14 days, which is staggering.

EDIT: I also read the symptoms can gradually worsen and there are lead times in testing, so you may be looking at a 3-week delay before a case is recorded and perhaps an additional two weeks until they die.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

The figures we delved into the other day with cases, tests and populations per region made clear that there is still a long way to go until the ceiling.

Flattening the curve is not enough once you have gone long beyond the point at which health systems can cope.

Well yeah which is why so many were insane to think Herd Immunity would ever work. The men in suits are killing people.

All this fecking nonsense about waiting for the right time to lockdown. I can't believe what is happening right now. Humanity is nuts.

 

[Jacko21]

What?

Government paying 80% of salaries up to the value of £2500 per month to prevent widespread job losses.

 

[dwd]

We used to share the same local as their head office crowd at my old job. The head of shoe buying was very fit.

They were told via text apparently.

 

[Grinner]

What worries me about Italy is that it hasn't really hit the South yet, has it? So many old folk down there.

 

[arnie_ni]

Just for those who would otherwise be fired, no?

He said its open to all businesses so i assumed not

 

[Andy_Cole]

Why would anyone want to go to a rammed pub right now?

last day of freedom.

 

[dwd]

Anyone else self-employed and now feeling like you've been hung out to dry?

 

[villain]

So surreal seeing the helicopter footage of streets of Central London being empty

 

[Renegade]

That's pretty much most things no?

shopping centres?

 

[CassiusClaymore]

This Doctor is good too. Really drilling home the importance of social distancing.

 

[JPRouve]

Feck, they’ll hit 1,000 deaths in a day very soon the way it’s going. Are the restrictive measures not having any effect?

There is a too much latency, so people have already been infected by contaminated people that weren't showing symptoms yet. And then you have to consider the amount of people that are currently in criticial conditions some say that 10%-20% are seemingly succumbing. Currently Italy has 38k active cases, how many of them will be critical in the next 10 days?

 

[BusbyMalone]

Has the magnitude of this sunk in for anyone yet? I’m really struggling to get my head around it.

Nope. You read it, you watch it, you talk to people you know who has ether been affected by it or know someone who's been affected by it, but it still doesn't sink in. We're all appalled by the numbers and scale, but (i can only speak for myself here) i just can't quite grasp it.

 

[LARulz]

shopping centres?

If shops are closed then why would they be open?

 

[RedTiger]

Conference was all a bit overwhelming.

Are they saying anybody that has to self isolate will get paid 80% of their wages or this aimed more at the people being laid off rather than the ones that still have a job open?

I think it's 80% for furloughed staff, in which case I'll be shutting shop Monday.

 

[horsechoker]

What worries me about Italy is that it hasn't really hit the South yet, has it? So many old folk down there.

I'm also worried because the south is less advanced than the north, I've never spent time in an Italian hospital north or south but I imagine the south has less capacity to deal with this than the north does.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

This Doctor is good too. Really drilling home the importance of social distancing.

Except many aren't listening.

 

[EwanI Ted]

He said its open to all businesses so i assumed not

i think it’s for employees not working.

 

[Smores]

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That's grim and it's likely to be us and other nations very shortly

 

[Port Vale Devil]

Mate of mine owns a pub and is already throwing out ten pints for £10 for closing night tonight.

Fcuking unreal.

 

[Jim Beam]

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ffs

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Contrast this press conference to the same one this time last week...

Almost like the Government have made it up as they've gone along...

 

[CassiusClaymore]

Except many aren't listening.

Some people will never listen. Hopefully this kind of delivery at least gets to those who were on the fence.

 

[Jippy]

They were told via text apparently.

That is shitty. At least actually call and speak to them.

 

[Arruda]

Has the magnitude of this sunk in for anyone yet? I’m really struggling to get my head around it.

I've had three outbursts of crying alone in the past three weeks or so. It felt very surreal, the first impact, I wasn't sure if I was going mad becquse everyone (including most of the medical community) were oblivious. It was very scary at first, but for the past 10-15 days I've gotten used to it and progressively more motivated - still scared, but calmer and calmer. Don't know how long it will last.


This seems seems like ages ago, two and a half weeks:

So, for several personal reasons I mostly ignored this so far.

Then I obsessively devoted myself to reading about it this weekend. My mind is a bit numb.

Has this actually ended somewhere that has been affected? Like, has life in Wuhan returned to normal? It seems not but I struggle to confirm some things. Expected I guess, need more time.

So this is happening in real time. It seems to me that a worst case scenario is a choice between mortality levels comparable to Spanish flu (even if in a different demographic) or levels of economic and personal restraint that we don't even know for how long might have to be maintained? Economic crisis without precedent?

Am I reading this right? Even if we can't quantify how likely that worst case scenario is it definitely seems to be there and is very grim. This requires the utmost attention. Even individually, you have to think stuff like "can I handle two weeks without working? What about a month? Do I have frail people under my care? What do I have to learn if so?"

Massive stuff I think. Will be hard to think about anything else in my spare time from now on. I want to devote myself tobunderstanding this to the utmost of my abilities.

 

[Revan]

Italy’s Info in worldometer is wrong. Around 4700 new cases yesterday.

 

[Pexbo]

If we can be thankful for anything it’s that Javid was replaced by Sunak before all this really kicked off. I can’t begin to imagine how badly Javid would have dealt with all this.

 

[Sweet Square]

Have I missed something or is there still feck all for the self employed ?

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[Ludens the Red]

Yep. Just said the same thing in another thread. Big groups of them in town today. Not sinking in at all I'm afraid.

It's all kicking of now on the sae trajectory as Italy roughly. People will start to learn the hard way. I went to the local shops at lunch and it was 50% old people, there at the busiest time of the day. I mean they literally have all day to do their shopping. Nuts.

To be fair to ‘old people’ maybe they turned up at their usual time of 7am in the morning to do their shopping only to see a group of idiotic average aged people queuing outside the supermarket hoarding goods.
A lot of old people also live alone, don’t have access to internet and social media and may not have the access to the expert advise that is handed out on the redcafe. A lot of old people will almost undoubtedly be completely unaware of the severity of the situation. For a lot of ‘old people’ a trip to the supermarket literally makes their day. Cut them some slack.

 

[marktan]

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Bad, no sign of slowing down at all.

They enacted the lockdown on the 8th - 12 days ago, it should've started to show up on the figures by now

 

[Fully Fledged]

Why would anyone want to go to a rammed pub right now?

People are selfish and don't think it will effect them too badly.

 

[Jippy]

Curious what it is...maybe sheet fecking?

In the interest of research I had a quick look. It seems they've just opportunistically given normal porn stuff corona themed names- eg 'old guy and young lass in corona lockdown action' or the like. Disappointing, although not sure what I was expecting tbh. Also, dunno if it was my wfi or loads of people are on it, but it was running really slowly- couldn't actually watch vids.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Except many aren't listening.

GoT-tO-tAkE-iT-oN-tHe-ChIn,MaTe

 

[Rooney1987]

If shops are closed then why would they be open?

It's a tough one,. I have a Boots pharmacy, Sainsburys and pound shops in my local shopping centre. Only way to enter is to go in the shopping centre.

 

[TMDaines]

I've had three outbursts of crying alone in the past three weeks or so. It felt very surreal, the first impact, I wasn't sure if I was going mad becquse everyone (including most of the medical community) were oblivious. It was very scary at first, but for the past 10-15 days I've gotten used to it and progressively more motivated - still scared, but calmer and calmer. Don't know how long it will last.


This seems seems like ages ago, two and a half weeks:

I had a cry at the Sky News report from the Bergamo hospital.

 

[Renegade]

If shops are closed then why would they be open?

Retail stores are still open in my local shopping centre.Did he mention retail stores? I must have missed it.

 

[Jim Beam]

GoT-tO-tAkE-iT-oN-tHe-ChIn,MaTe

StAy In the GyM

 

[hobbers]

Bad, no sign of slowing down at all.

They enacted the lockdown on the 8th - 12 days ago, it should've started to show up on the figures by now

A lot of the problem seems to be that just before the lock down loads of infected people went south, and now the virus growth in southern regions is more than cancelling any sort of slowdown in new infections in the north.

 

[One Night Only]

Absolutely mental!