What’s the latest with Japan? I’d have thought a city like Tokyo would be ripe for a huge outbreak.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I'm hoping the government clear up their at risk groups isolation message from earlier in the week.
Just said it'll be from weekend. My work are going strictly off of government instruction, and so far they aren't crystal clear on at risk groups, beside strongly advising social distancing rather than just advising.
Just said it'll be from weekend. My work are going strictly off of government instruction, and so far they aren't crystal clear on at risk groups, beside strongly advising social distancing rather than just advising.
Just read an article this morning about it. New york is fecked. They will soon reach their limit and they don't have enough supply and materials
This is all absolutely true.
I wonder though whether it would have died a natural death decades ago, had it not been for the constant background threat of terrorist atrocities since about 1970; Islamic jihadists starting up just after Irish Republican violence had ceased. People born into this era don't know any different, but for those who lived through the war or grew up in the quarter century of peace following it, that nostalgic wartime spirit of Keep Calm And Carry On was thought of as comforting and sustaining.
Some people regrettably fail to understand the obvious differences between a terrorist threat and a pandemic, and let their ignorance be exploited by unscrupulous politicians.
Got a linky for that? I told a friend of mine, ten days ago, stay the feck out of NYC. She is in NH and doing just fine there ATM.
Spain’s death toll surpasses 1,300 people. The latest death toll is an increase from 1,002 on Friday, according to the country’s health ministry. The number of registered cases in the country rose to 24,926 on Saturday from 19,980 in the previous tally announced on Friday
It seems crazy. food courts are simply removing seating but expect all units to stay open and trade as 'take outs'. This lockdown should have included all non essential shops, I understood the initial drip feed approach but now number are soaring we need a strict lockdown to at least get some data on it's effectiveness and to make everyone aware of the seriousness of the issue.
I am still optimistic that if proper isolation was done we could get the worst out of the way in a 4-6 week period as China did, but only if we now act.
They shut the shopping centres very abruptly here, unless there was a supermarket in there too - but all the shops in the mall that weren't grocery shops had to close straight away.
I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.
Completely agree, it seems insane to me, and also blatantly obvious that all non-essential retail shops need to be trading online only.
The tabaccherie have been allowed to stay open here, along with pharmacies and grocery shops.
It was in a German newspaper, but seems they have pulled away the paragraph about NY. They were citing the NY times, but the articles are behind a paywall.
Do you not think it will increase? I would imagine those who already do smoke will perhaps smoke more out of boredom as everything’s shut.
@Penna vapes.
Honestly, so many people don't give a feck about this sort of thing that's what worries me the most.
I went to Tesco to buy some stuff yesterday, a few hours after pubs were announced to be closing, and I saw some guy sitting outside on a bench, drinking booze clearly bought from in-store and using a trolley as his table.
Still only a thousand cases over here.
How do you call them in english?The tabaccherie have been allowed to stay open here, along with pharmacies and grocery shops.
Ah that’s good then. Hopefully it stays like that.
They need to at least enforce retail to limit people allowed in stores. We drove passed a retail park earlier and it was rammed with people.
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A deep global recession is a given.
Its different to a market caused recession so I'm optimistic of a quick bounce back for industries like retail and leisure.
I had to check, that's a nasty name. You need to find something better.
Is there any new evidence or new reports about smokers beeing more affected by Covid-19?
Its not going to be a depression. People have money and the markets are driven by different stimulus. Its not going to be pretty but we've got a better chance of a quicker recovery and avoidance of depression.
Theres also alot of industry that will be trucking on through this disaster.
Do we need evidence?Is there any new evidence or new reports about smokers beeing more affected by Covid-19?
Smoking is bad during normal times.
I'm wondering what happens to all the weed dispensaries in California and other states where it's legal. Home delivery perhaps!
Covid-19: disaster declared in New York as fears grow over lack of ventilators
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/coronavirus-new-york-disaster-ventilators
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/coronavirus-new-york-disaster-ventilators
It's a vicious circle that comes with panic buyers. Instead of spending 30 mins quickly in and out. I've just spent two hours exposing myself to all these unwashed coughers in multiple shops and only got a just a third of the food and the big supermarket near me was the most barren. I don't think they've restocked pasta or flour all week and today every bit of bread and milk all gone, pretty much all tinned stuff gone, fecking bananas all gone. I thought Saturday morning I might get something from there and would've thought people have filled their cupboards and freezers by now, many of these people have huge fat reserves as well.
When I lived in San Francisco some years back, they were bicycle couriers who would deliver to your door.
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Corner shops are the easiest to shop at now, pay a bit more, but they normally have most things you need day by day.
The Japanese are very obedient though when it comes to rules and laws. Probably one of the best places for control measures to actually be followed.
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It's the Great Lie (similar to Wilfred Owen's 'old Lie'), and it makes me angry.
They've already refashioned WWI as the war of poetry, of poppies, and of quiet regret; sheepish, grudging regret, far too late in the day, over the waste of thousands of lives and the very flower of our youth. In reality, those troops were treated as mere materiel in a conflict which could've been ended within its first year. A wreath and a Last Post, however poignant, can't cover up or drown out the bodies and voices of the silent dead, no matter how politicians past and present try.
And now we have the World War II Show wheeled out, as it always is in times of self-inflicted crisis or the perennial vainglory which infects the nation. Now, there's plenty for our citizens to be proud of regarding that War; however, I have to ask: is history all Britain has to boast of? And do our leaders believe this to be so? While we're encouraged to wrap ourselves in the flag, we are distracted from claiming the social justice and equality that should be ours; while we fondly remember Dunkirk, from the rose-tinted safety of a later day, we forget that we've all been fighting the Battles of Towton and Orgreave...for centuries. No matter what they try to tell us - just as a comforting bedtime story soothes restless children - British history, for the common folk, isn't a tale of victory like Agincourt or Trafalgar - instead it's an ongoing defeat, a history of violence perpetuated by masters against servants.
Political Correctness at its worse. It’s ok to criticise Trump, Borris Johnson etc but i see very few people criticising the government that brought the world to its knees and fecked everything up.
Let’s not forget this virus has been going around since at least NOVEMBER and the Chinese government spent a month or two covering it up and putting people that were talking about it into jail.
If they had acted like any normal government, things would not be as bad as this.
imagine the outrage and memes if the world got fecked because some redneck in the USA ate something like a rattlesnake and a virus started in Kentucky.
And Instead of acting to stop it and warn the world Trump silenced and put the Dr’s that realised there was a new virus in prison and denied there was such a virus. And basically allowed the the thing to spread for 2 month across the world, can you imagine the hate he’d be getting?
I really don’t understand why we are more focused on criticising our own relatively transparent governments. When it’s the communist China’s lies and suppression on the truth that is responsible for this.
And when this settles down. Do we wait another 10, 20 years until the next virus that comes from China? SARS was only 20 years ago. More deadly then coronavirus but mutated to become less infectious so it killed itself.. that’s the only reason it didn’t wipe out half the world.
Let’s not forget this virus has been going around since at least NOVEMBER and the Chinese government spent a month or two covering it up and putting people that were talking about it into jail.
If they had acted like any normal government, things would not be as bad as this.
imagine the outrage and memes if the world got fecked because some redneck in the USA ate something like a rattlesnake and a virus started in Kentucky.
And Instead of acting to stop it and warn the world Trump silenced and put the Dr’s that realised there was a new virus in prison and denied there was such a virus. And basically allowed the the thing to spread for 2 month across the world, can you imagine the hate he’d be getting?
I really don’t understand why we are more focused on criticising our own relatively transparent governments. When it’s the communist China’s lies and suppression on the truth that is responsible for this.
And when this settles down. Do we wait another 10, 20 years until the next virus that comes from China? SARS was only 20 years ago. More deadly then coronavirus but mutated to become less infectious so it killed itself.. that’s the only reason it didn’t wipe out half the world.
Because shouting at China doesn't help the situation now. Judging by what I've read there's still some time to slow this all down and buy time, but the UK government is not doing it.
Shopping centres busy today.
Where?
Seriously? Where?
You’re right about the “now”. But I just hope when it settles down people and the world’s governments remember that if China had acted in November or even December things would have been much different.
And we need to talk about why these types of viruses come from there. We all know why. Measures and agreements need to be put in place amongst all the world’s countries where we can quarantine China whenever there’s a suspicion of a new virus outbreak.
Just been to my local shop, there is just as much foot and road traffic as usual, probably a bit more in fact. People just seem to be going about their usual routines for now.