SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Deery

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Which is why they'll all be routinely tested to reduce the risk of taking down everyone at once.

The posts saying Boris needs testing because he's too important are just as ridiculous as those saying he doesn't.
Their advice to just wash your hands kinda backfired.
 

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Cheers pal.
It’s everywhere in fairness and will only increase by the bucket load daily I’d imagine, when you consider how fast it moved from a market in China to the entire globe.
Sheffield stuck out for me as a wierd result, whether they're testing more or they have a more local outbreak is stirring the curiosity.
 

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The amount of people replying to Boris' tweet saying they hope he dies...some of them 15/16 year olds. He's a bellend but shame on you.
I hope he dies. I very much doubt he will but I think it would be a wake up call for the world. I'm also wary of how a PM who has already shown a reckless attitude to the pandemic would behave if he himself were to be immune.
 

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Find that interesting. They say anonymised but if you can identify someone through trends in the anonymised data alongside other data sets then it isn't under EU law.

I wonder how specific they can track these.
Down to inches ?

In Norway it's only been used to track the effects of the lockdown, showing a major difference in activity outside.
 

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I hope he dies. I very much doubt he will but I think it would be a wake up call for the world. I'm also wary of how a PM who has already shown a reckless attitude to the pandemic would behave if he himself were to be immune.
Damn.
 

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He’s followed the scientific advice and you hope he dies for it? Erm... ok.
If I truly thought he could be trusted to follow scientific majority views, which he has dismissed previously, I would be praying for him.
 

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Just heard some scientist from Wuhan working on biological weapons has now got it too.
 

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If the mods decide that's not a thing we can say, I'll take the hit.

If pretty much everyone else decides it's not a thing we should say, I'll shut up and not say things like it again.

I personally don't think it's an inappropriate level of coldness towards our leaders during a worldwide crisis that endangers pretty much all of us.
 

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Supposed to be a number of cases in Wuhan, China too.
:lol:

Is someone able to update me, I'm still a bit confused. Has it been confirmed that this is no longer mutating and the scientists at least know what they are dealing with? Obviously I mean that for treatment/vaccine because I thought the original difficulty was also they were concerned it kept changing and was a different strand almost every time
 

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The data from 2010 does not separate general from acute, and the data before is not adjusted for population.

If you fiddle around with the graph here you can see acute beds per capita adjusted for a lot of countries. The UK does not stand out as governments change or compared to its neighbours - the only one that does is Korea.

https://data.oecd.org/healtheqt/hospital-beds.htm
Yeah, but when you figure down from total beds to acute care beds the UK resolves into a single dubious datapoint from 2017. I think that's because someone changed the definitions in 2010 so it's now difficult to ascertain the true numbers. A better source for the relative distribution of hospital beds over time is presented here. It's sufficiently clear from the figures that both governments reduced general and acute care beds, but it's certainly not the case that the 2000's government reduced them at a faster rate. I'm not really pointing fingers though, most advanced healthcare systems have being trying to make as much healthcare external to hospitals as they can.

Two areas that post 2010 governments have done better in is in expanding critical and social care bed numbers.
 
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Just found an article & their director of health is attributing it down to rigorous testing - seems like they're on the front foot & others trusts should take note.
Ah, well that would do it. No doubt also proof that it’s more widespread than the entire negative numbers show.
And as many scientists have mentioned, that is a little problem in testing when it comes to trusting those numbers
; a negative result today does not mean a negative result tomorrow.
 

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I hope he dies. I very much doubt he will but I think it would be a wake up call for the world. I'm also wary of how a PM who has already shown a reckless attitude to the pandemic would behave if he himself were to be immune.
Oh no DOTA, please don't talk like that I....

Nah, I got nothin.
 

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I hope he dies. I very much doubt he will but I think it would be a wake up call for the world. I'm also wary of how a PM who has already shown a reckless attitude to the pandemic would behave if he himself were to be immune.
Should be banned for that.

And what do you mean 'it would be a wake up call for the world'? Have you not looked out of your window or turned a TV on in the last month?
 

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I hope he dies. I very much doubt he will but I think it would be a wake up call for the world. I'm also wary of how a PM who has already shown a reckless attitude to the pandemic would behave if he himself were to be immune.
I got a warning for suggesting the De Gea would benefit from any enforced rest due to injury. Think this might be going a lot further.
 

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Should be banned for that.

And what do you mean 'it would be a wake up call for the world'? Have you not looked out of your window or turned a TV on in the last month?
I'm following quite closely. Do you think America has woken up to the reality of this yet?
 

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Sheffield stuck out for me as a wierd result, whether they're testing more or they have a more local outbreak is stirring the curiosity.
We have a very good virology dept so don't know if that's encouraging more tests but also, a Uni lecturer tested positive early on which could have caused quite a spread.

edit: It's the former. A spokesperson said there's more testing going on here than in most other places.
 
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Yeah, but when you figure down from total beds to acute care beds the UK resolves into a single dubious datapoint from 2017. I think that's because someone changed the definitions in 2010 so it's now difficult to ascertain the true numbers. A better source for the relative distribution of hospital beds over time is presented here. It's sufficiently clear from the figures that both governments reduced general and acute care beds, but it's certainly not the case that the 2000's government reduced them at a faster rate. I'm not really pointing fingers though, most advanced healthcare systems have being trying to make as much healthcare external to hospitals as they can.

Two areas that post 2010 governments have done better in is in expanding critical and social care bed numbers.
I wasn't really looking to debate whether one government has done better than the other. Simply refuting the suggestion that had Corbyn and Labour been voted in everything would automatically be rosy now.
 

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Ok, the PM got tested. Fine. Not a problem with that. But the majority of the spanners on this thread seem to be ignoring the main component of the annoyance behind most of the comments which is that front line NHS staff can't get the tests.

Or have we gone back to ignoring the NHS after clapping outside our houses for a minute last night?
Grumble grumble
 

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Ok, the PM got tested. Fine. Not a problem with that. But the majority of the spanners on this thread seem to be ignoring the main component of the annoyance behind most of the comments which is that front line NHS staff can't get the tests.

Or have we gone back to ignoring the NHS after clapping outside our houses for a minute last night?
Grumble grumble
What the feck is your problem mate?