Would be tested privately. The royals have their own medical staff on call.
I get why people are a bit upset but that's just the way of the world isn't it.
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I get why people are a bit upset but that's just the way of the world isn't it.
I suspect you're right. Hopefully Newsnight is going to clarify it themselves tonight?
Thankee most kindly. Trouble with the human condition is that all of us believe what fits with our view of the world which is far too often jaundiced. Sadly the internet only exacerbates the problem. Then again the genie is firmly out of the bottle so we have to live with it.
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I would have thought there was no issue with releasing this data either. It's not an issue that other countries seem to have had and things like GDPR and the Data Protection Act don't apply to the deceased (in the circumstances I've dealt with such restrictions, at least), so I would have been surprised if such basic data required consent to be released in an aggregated form. I've also seen the the idea that consent would be needed questioned by pollster/data analysts types like Matt Singh, who presumably have at least some basic knowledge of data protection restrictions.
If the story was inaccurate I would have thought it would more likely be because the government simply aren't looking for that consent and it was just misreported.
Though maybe someone will point out why the restrictions apply in this case.
I would have thought there was no issue with releasing this data either. It's not an issue that other countries seem to have had and things like GDPR and the Data Protection Act don't apply to the deceased (in the circumstances I've dealt with such restrictions, at least), so I would have been surprised if such basic data required consent to be released in an aggregated form. I've also seen the the idea that consent would be needed questioned by pollster/data analysts types like Matt Singh, who presumably have at least some basic knowledge of data protection restrictions.
If the story was inaccurate I would have thought it would more likely be because the government simply aren't looking for that consent and it was just misreported.
Though maybe someone will point out why the restrictions apply in this case.
Damn, Italy 919 deaths. There were fears of it spreading in the South, not sure if this was the reason for the jump but I try to avoid all this talk of peaks, drops and so on. When Italy start posting numbers of 200-300 a day for a week I might start to think it's changing. It's been back and forth in the 5-800 range and critical cases keep on rising and there will be more culmination and overwhelmed hospitals leading to varied numbers.
Can't things any better if we hit this in the UK in 2-4 weeks time with half the ICU units of Italy and such low beds per 1000k. We rank near the bottom of 40 countries.
Can't things any better if we hit this in the UK in 2-4 weeks time with half the ICU units of Italy and such low beds per 1000k. We rank near the bottom of 40 countries.
Italy 
That would be horrible news for medical professionals, ffs.
The Italians numbers are horrific
Yep it’s not just royals or politicians.....it’s anyone with the influence, celebrity, or money. To Charles and Boris let’s add in Tom Hanks and Idris Elba. As my grannie used to say no-one said that life was fair or equal
Today I started volunteering in what we call "active vigilance teams".
We call every day to people who are quarantined (automatic for anyone who flies into Azores, others signaled by public health teams' contact tracing) and ask for temperature readings and respiratory symptoms, reiterate the need to stay home, etc.). If they fail to answer (maximum of 6 attempts per day) 2 days in a row we activate a local team. If they answer and refuse to talk, or we notice something is off, we immediately activate field teams, who can call the police.
It's quite rewarding, must be a world of difference from making sales calls etc. Most people are tremendously nice and thankful, though we get the occasional pouty teenager that didn't want to be woken up, or people so illiterate that make the conversation very challenging.
Thing is, with the increase in cases and suspects, human resources for this kind of work will be stretched too thin. I expect that a month from now we'll be calling only positive cases to make sure they are alright.
Working from the inside gives me access to a lot more info, and the daunting logistics that go into something like this.
I think my competences are better suited for this sort of work (or domiciliary care) than intra-hospital urgency stuff. On this later aspect I'm on a third line to be called, which means I will go only if (when, I guess) things get really bad.
I was feeling so useless at home and wondered who was doing this vigilance work, so e-mailed our health secretary saying I was available for anything, pay or no pay. The big lady herself called me one hour later to thank me and I started on this immediately.
We call every day to people who are quarantined (automatic for anyone who flies into Azores, others signaled by public health teams' contact tracing) and ask for temperature readings and respiratory symptoms, reiterate the need to stay home, etc.). If they fail to answer (maximum of 6 attempts per day) 2 days in a row we activate a local team. If they answer and refuse to talk, or we notice something is off, we immediately activate field teams, who can call the police.
It's quite rewarding, must be a world of difference from making sales calls etc. Most people are tremendously nice and thankful, though we get the occasional pouty teenager that didn't want to be woken up, or people so illiterate that make the conversation very challenging.
Thing is, with the increase in cases and suspects, human resources for this kind of work will be stretched too thin. I expect that a month from now we'll be calling only positive cases to make sure they are alright.
Working from the inside gives me access to a lot more info, and the daunting logistics that go into something like this.
I think my competences are better suited for this sort of work (or domiciliary care) than intra-hospital urgency stuff. On this later aspect I'm on a third line to be called, which means I will go only if (when, I guess) things get really bad.
I was feeling so useless at home and wondered who was doing this vigilance work, so e-mailed our health secretary saying I was available for anything, pay or no pay. The big lady herself called me one hour later to thank me and I started on this immediately.
You are correct that GDPR and the Data Protection Act don't apply to identifiable data related to the diseased, but duty of confidence previously established does. It's important not to undermine confidence and trust in systems and organisations.
No one's COVID-19 death is not going to be aggregated up, but it might not always be mediated.
Poor Italy.
Not a burden at all, but I understand the feeling. I have to keep working (and I’m glad about it), but I definitely need certain ‘supplies’, and sorting that out made me feel pretty shit.
The latest Italian death rate is horrifying.
Like the way the NY Post needs five pics to show what happened.
Boris probably got off that poster who was congregating at a carvery over a pint of beer with likeminded [sic] individuals, in an affluent area.
Hope that poster got an appropriate tagline as I cannot remember who it was now.
Hope that poster got an appropriate tagline as I cannot remember who it was now.
Yeah I get you but where do you see 250,000 people go on a piss up for 3 days? You cannot really compare that to work. Work is necessary, Cheltenham isn't. There is no defending it. When all of this is done there will be a lot of hindsight and one the things will be allowing Cheltenham to go on.
Yeah, Portuguese Prime Minister destroyed the Dutch PM too. It will pretty much be the end of European Union if this doesn't change.
Go to this post which quoted original post, which the poster edited to remove affluent.
I did search because I was desperate to know where this joke came from. @Starkie_1
I'm sure he has enough tucked away to live off £2500 for next 6 weeks or so.
Portuguese PM called his words "disgusting" and implied things were heated during those discussions.
Ah, thanks! He hasn't been on in 10 days now and he's got a tagline.
At least I got mine for being a drunken idiot ranting in an mma thread.
Perhaps you could just sort of, maybe, kind of just take it on the chin?
Yeah he's going to feature heavily in this years caf awards I'd bet.
Very distressing video but captures the situation in Spain and perhaps your country soon.
Sedating people over 65 to die and use respirators for younger people.
This is my worry for my mum, you know you can't be there on the ward and many will be left to die as there just isn't the number of staff or equipment in nearly all countries.
Sedating people over 65 to die and use respirators for younger people.
This is my worry for my mum, you know you can't be there on the ward and many will be left to die as there just isn't the number of staff or equipment in nearly all countries.
Yes, a strong response from Costa, very well said.
The European Union has been missed during these weeks, and it seems that there are more and more differentiated blocks.
OMG I thought Italy were just beginning to see the first merciful signs of decline of this pest of a virus.
Heart goes out to them. No words can describe what they must be going through.
Heart goes out to them. No words can describe what they must be going through.
I could find schadenfreude in seeing that orange buffoon, across the pond getting. I'd pop a bottle of Lidl champagne for him.
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He has been given the appropriate tagline, hasn't been seen in ten days though.
Hopefully he is just holding his head in shame and nothing worse.
We have been isolated for 12 days now or so because our daughter had symptoms (high fever, dry cough).
Shes fine for a few days, except for a runny noise, but now i start feeling sick too.
I wonder if we have to isolate for another 14 days if i really get sick now?
Would have been 28 days straight then, just imagine my missus gets sick in 10 days too... ?!
Shes fine for a few days, except for a runny noise, but now i start feeling sick too.
I wonder if we have to isolate for another 14 days if i really get sick now?
Would have been 28 days straight then, just imagine my missus gets sick in 10 days too... ?!
Someone should ask Gove if that lectern has been cleaned?
The only utility of him getting it is if it ends up hospitalizing him or killing him. If he tests positive and doesn't get sick it will only help his "cause".
Fascinating, and the opposite of what I was expecting.
Yeah it's actually better than Fox News.