Gaming The Last of Us Part II (PS4)

Wedge

Full Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2012
Messages
3,079
Location
Various fields
Supports
a soft spot for Ajax
I've read the spoilers just to get it out the way and all I can say is I'm looking forward to it.
 

esmufc07

Brad
Scout
Joined
Aug 7, 2007
Messages
49,901
Location
Lake Jonathan Creek
I've tried twice to play through the original and it just didn't grip me at all. It was OK, but I didn't think it was anything great. May try and give it another go ready for this.
 

KirkDuyt

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2015
Messages
24,719
Location
Dutchland
Supports
Feyenoord
I've tried twice to play through the original and it just didn't grip me at all. It was OK, but I didn't think it was anything great. May try and give it another go ready for this.
I wasnt that blown away either. One extremely grating thing is the girl's cloak of invisibility in stealth sections. She just walks out in the open and is ignored. So fecking silly.
 

Zen

Full Member
Joined
Aug 11, 2008
Messages
14,555
Gutted for the people who are mega loyal to this....

But not overly bothered, first kinda bored me.
 

Eriku

Full Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2007
Messages
16,263
Location
Oslo, Norway
I wasnt that blown away either. One extremely grating thing is the girl's cloak of invisibility in stealth sections. She just walks out in the open and is ignored. So fecking silly.
You’d prefer to have AI spoil your cover all the fecking time? I think the game would have been borderline unplayable if they hadn’t made that choice.
 

Shane88

Actually Nostradamus
Joined
Jan 12, 2011
Messages
35,320
Location
Targaryen loyalist
You’d prefer to have AI spoil your cover all the fecking time? I think the game would have been borderline unplayable if they hadn’t made that choice.
I think an RE4 Leon/Ashley mechanic would've worked better in hindsight. Tell her hide somewhere, or you can craft her a shiv which she could use to save herself from an enemy. Upgrade the shiv and it gets more uses. Making her invisible was laziness on the devs part and treating players like simpletons.

I should be in game development. This is gold.
 

KirkDuyt

Full Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2015
Messages
24,719
Location
Dutchland
Supports
Feyenoord
You’d prefer to have AI spoil your cover all the fecking time? I think the game would have been borderline unplayable if they hadn’t made that choice.
They could've just let her hide somewhere in a corner. I understand the decision, but it just looked so silly.
 

Ainu

Full Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2008
Messages
10,155
Location
Antwerp, Belgium
I think an RE4 Leon/Ashley mechanic would've worked better in hindsight. Tell her hide somewhere, or you can craft her a shiv which she could use to save herself from an enemy. Upgrade the shiv and it gets more uses. Making her invisible was laziness on the devs part and treating players like simpletons.

I should be in game development. This is gold.
I think that would've weakened her character considerably. Ellie needed to have a mind of her own and not be some helpless child to be ordered around. It might look a little dodgy in gameplay terms but it's just one of those situations where you have to suspend your disbelief. I'm glad they did it this way.
 

Eriku

Full Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2007
Messages
16,263
Location
Oslo, Norway
I think that would've weakened her character considerably. Ellie needed to have a mind of her own and not be some helpless child to be ordered around. It might look a little dodgy in gameplay terms but it's just one of those situations where you have to suspend your disbelief. I'm glad they did it this way.
Yeah, same. Ellie was a bad-ass and had to have more agency than that. To each their own but I had no issue with suspending disbelief for that.
 

evil_geko

Full Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2005
Messages
5,956
After reading the spoilers, leaker actually saved me some money, cheers, I am skipping this, not going to be even close to the quality of the original. Plus all the agenda pushing in it...bloody hell.
 

Mr Pigeon

Illiterate Flying Rat
Scout
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
26,381
Location
bin
1) don't discuss spoilers
2) jog on with that "agenda pushing" shite
 

Volumiza

The alright "V", B-Boy cypher cat
Joined
Jul 13, 2018
Messages
13,634
Location
Somewhere in the middle
I've tried twice to play through the original and it just didn't grip me at all. It was OK, but I didn't think it was anything great. May try and give it another go ready for this.
I’m the same only I’ve tried that third play through you’re talking of trying. It was the same. I still haven’t quite finished the whole thing.

Awesome story though, has to be said.

For me, TLOU was just practice for uncharted 4 (puts helmet on in preparation for the rocks being thrown at me).

I loved the main gamepley but combat gamepley was a bit clunky at times and made me dread meeting some enemies, not the threat itself.

No doubt I’ll try the new one but it won’t be because I love the original.
 
Last edited:

Massive Spanner

Give Mason Mount a chance!
Joined
Jul 2, 2014
Messages
28,336
Location
Tool shed
some of you lot are f*cking weird, refusing to play a video game because the story might offend your poor little brains.
 

Ainu

Full Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2008
Messages
10,155
Location
Antwerp, Belgium
Can we all just shut the feck up about the leaks, please? Even if you're not giving details and just saying what you think about it. Just don't. What is wrong with people?
 

2mufc0

Everything is fair game in capitalism!
Joined
Jan 8, 2014
Messages
17,034
Supports
Dragon of Dojima
Haven't been keeping up with this, how has this been leaked?
 

evil_geko

Full Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2005
Messages
5,956
some of you lot are f*cking weird, refusing to play a video game because the story might offend your poor little brains.
Yes, poor storytelling offends my brain. Strange, right? Some people will buy whatever just because they are "fans of the franchise" and swallow it up, I am too old to gobble any bullshit they give just because it has "TLOU" slapped on it.

And I am done here, I know some people will defend this game just because the expectations were so high so they wont accept bad things about it.


Cheers.
 

Shane88

Actually Nostradamus
Joined
Jan 12, 2011
Messages
35,320
Location
Targaryen loyalist
My issues have zero to do with agendas. I'm not one of those fecking weirdos who get riled up by a gay or black person in a game.

It's shitty, hacky writing that is my problem
 

Massive Spanner

Give Mason Mount a chance!
Joined
Jul 2, 2014
Messages
28,336
Location
Tool shed
Yes, poor storytelling offends my brain. Strange, right? Some people will buy whatever just because they are "fans of the franchise" and swallow it up, I am too old to gobble any bullshit they give just because it has "TLOU" slapped on it.

And I am done here, I know some people will defend this game just because the expectations were so high so they wont accept bad things about it.


Cheers.
Nah I just haven't read the leaks because I want to enjoy the game, but hey, that's just me.

at the end of the day, it's still a videogame. If God of War had a shit story I'd have still played it because the combat was so good. Same with this.
 

Massive Spanner

Give Mason Mount a chance!
Joined
Jul 2, 2014
Messages
28,336
Location
Tool shed
My issues have zero to do with agendas. I'm not one of those fecking weirdos who get riled up by a gay or black person in a game.

It's shitty, hacky writing that is my problem
Maybe stop posting in here then, people who haven't read the leaks don't want opinions from those who have.
 

b82REZ

Full Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2011
Messages
9,350
Location
Manchester
Yes, poor storytelling offends my brain. Strange, right? Some people will buy whatever just because they are "fans of the franchise" and swallow it up, I am too old to gobble any bullshit they give just because it has "TLOU" slapped on it.

And I am done here, I know some people will defend this game just because the expectations were so high so they wont accept bad things about it.


Cheers.
You've assumed the storytelling will be bad and clearly have an issue with the homosexual subplot.

I can understand you posting this after the game has released and you are able to decide if you dislike the narrative. But just to assume itll be bad, because seemingly you have an issue with the "agenda" suggests you may have been slightly biased.

I certainly wont fall into your category of people that lap anything up because it's TLOU because while I enjoyed the first one it was nothing more than a bog standard action game with an above average story.
 

Shane88

Actually Nostradamus
Joined
Jan 12, 2011
Messages
35,320
Location
Targaryen loyalist
Maybe stop posting in here then, people who haven't read the leaks don't want opinions from those who have.
I'll keep posting in here, thanks. I haven't, and won't, spoil a single plot point on anyone. I wouldn't do that.

I'm allowed to say I think it's shit though. If you're concerned about spoilers, maybe go on a TLOU blackout.
 

evil_geko

Full Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2005
Messages
5,956
You've assumed the storytelling will be bad and clearly have an issue with the homosexual subplot.

I can understand you posting this after the game has released and you are able to decide if you dislike the narrative. But just to assume itll be bad, because seemingly you have an issue with the "agenda" suggests you may have been slightly biased.

I certainly wont fall into your category of people that lap anything up because it's TLOU because while I enjoyed the first one it was nothing more than a bog standard action game with an above average story.
You have issues mate because when heard "agenda" you straight up connect it to homosexual plots right away, bloody hell! :lol:

I mean, you can't make this up, people telling me not to spoil anything while mentioning "homosexual plots" at me all the time assuming I found the problem there based on one word, so who exactly spoiled here? :lol:

Writing is just bad, simple as that, I don't have to decide anything, it was already decided by the devs. I am not assuming anything, it is already known with the spoilers leaked, you are the one assuming with all the "homosexual agenda" throwing around.
 
Last edited:

Redlambs

Creator of the Caftards comics
Joined
Aug 22, 2006
Messages
42,302
Location
Officially the best poker player on RAWK.
Yes, poor storytelling offends my brain. Strange, right? Some people will buy whatever just because they are "fans of the franchise" and swallow it up, I am too old to gobble any bullshit they give just because it has "TLOU" slapped on it.

And I am done here, I know some people will defend this game just because the expectations were so high so they wont accept bad things about it.


Cheers.
So...much...irony...
 

Massive Spanner

Give Mason Mount a chance!
Joined
Jul 2, 2014
Messages
28,336
Location
Tool shed
I'll keep posting in here, thanks. I haven't, and won't, spoil a single plot point on anyone. I wouldn't do that.

I'm allowed to say I think it's shit though. If you're concerned about spoilers, maybe go on a TLOU blackout.
I strongly disagree. I assume @Damien will too.
 

b82REZ

Full Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2011
Messages
9,350
Location
Manchester
You have issues mate because when heard "agenda" you straight up connect it to homosexual plots right away, bloody hell! :lol:

Writing is just bad, simple as that, I don't have to decide anything, it was already decided by the devs. And assume? You aren't aware of the leaks then, there is no assume here, it is known.
Well what agendas were you referring to because beyond the lesbian angle with Ellie I struggle to see anything that could even be considered an agenda.


You can't claim the writing is bad until we've actually seen the game in its entirety. Similarly I couldn't claim it was good until then either. Many plots sound horrendous when explained, but when all the parts come together they work and create an entertaining story. Films like John Wick come to mind where the plot sounds ridiculous but in the confines of that universe it works and is entertaining.

I've read the leaks and they do not indicate the quality of the writing, just the broad strokes of the overall story. How you can conclude the writing is bad from that, I don't know.
 

Massive Spanner

Give Mason Mount a chance!
Joined
Jul 2, 2014
Messages
28,336
Location
Tool shed
No one has gone into any detail or said anything you wouldn't know going into this game.
Again, that's not the point. This exact same thing happened with Game of Thrones and it ultimately ended with people being told to shut the feck up about their opinions on the leaks. I don't want to know what your opinion on the story is. People giving their opinions both puts stuff in the heads of those who haven't read the leaks and makes it more likely others will inadvertently spoil elements of the game.

If you want to discuss the leaks then make a different thread or go to PM. Why is that so difficult to comprehend? It always baffles me that people think it's OK to discuss them in these threads when it's so easy to f*ck off and make another thread or PM to do it.

Shane trying to say I'm the one who should go on a TLOU blackout because I'm reading a thread where it literally says in the title to not discuss the leaks is really dumb. He's the one who should piss off out of here.
 

Berbasbullet

Too Boring For A Funny Tagline
Joined
Nov 3, 2011
Messages
20,364
Came into the thread and saw the last post, now refuse to scroll up.

Please do not discuss the leaks or your opinion of the quality of the leaks. Don't be that guy.
 

Shane88

Actually Nostradamus
Joined
Jan 12, 2011
Messages
35,320
Location
Targaryen loyalist
Again, that's not the point. This exact same thing happened with Game of Thrones and it ultimately ended with people being told to shut the feck up about their opinions on the leaks. I don't want to know what your opinion on the story is. People giving their opinions both puts stuff in the heads of those who haven't read the leaks and makes it more likely others will inadvertently spoil elements of the game.

If you want to discuss the leaks then make a different thread or go to PM. Why is that so difficult to comprehend? It always baffles me that people think it's OK to discuss them in these threads when it's so easy to f*ck off and make another thread or PM to do it.

Shane trying to say I'm the one who should go on a TLOU blackout because I'm reading a thread where it literally says in the title to not discuss the leaks is really dumb. He's the one who should piss off out of here.
Take another look, the thread title says "don't post leaked spoilers here."

Point out where I've posted spoilers, genius.