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Six isn't a bad result at all, hopefully the next rounds of testing don't cause any issues, then it should be full steam ahead to get things finished.
It says players or club staff. That could be drawn from a huge number. United PLC has 922 staff as of 2018, as a guesstimate are we saying 300-400 that are involved at club level on a day to day basis plus more for match day? About 7000 - 10000 that are involved in this operation across the league?
Football isn't just a game though...it's a business and it employs thousands of people, if not tens of thousands of people, not including the players or staff on hourly wages that support them.Football is an activity that requires close physical contact of many many people. 'Society' is going to have to adjust while Covid19 is an issue.
Im OK if there is no football before a vaccine. It's just a game and for entertainment. There is plenty of more important things for society to focus on right now. Also plenty of other sports like cricket, tennis, athletics etc that don't pose the same risks.
748 tested, but that's still less than 1 % percent, and if they keep testing every few days and isolating those who have it they should easily be able to keep a lid on things with numbers like this, to be remembered that Germany had positive tests too before they started up.It says players or club staff. That could be drawn from a huge number. United PLC has 922 staff as of 2018, as a guesstimate are we saying 300-400 that are involved at club level on a day to day basis plus more for match day? About 7000 - 10000 that are involved in this operation across the league?
The sooner you realize some people have their agendas to pursue, the quicker you'll understand certain reactions. I mean it's quite obvious that 6 out of 700+ tested people is excellent news for project Restart. I'm quite sure and confident that people know that the point of these tests is to find out about positive cases, isolate them then treat them in time for when the league gets back which is about a month from now. But you'll still have people trying to paint this entire situation and bit of information as catastrophic news in order to push and get on with the agendas.This is getting bizarre here. Did you genuinely think there wouldn't be infected footballers? How likely is that? The whole point of mass testing is to find them and isolate them. Just as they did in Germany. The league is continuing whether you like it or not. But we've been through this.
Allegedly.They haven't been in contact with their teammates for weeks?
Yeah i know. I mean, we can all speculate but I don't think there is a manner to end the season that pleases everybody. Whether you declare it null and void, whether you take current placings as final, or whether you have an average points per game, nobody knows for sure what the best solution is. The PL should just go for one of the options and make a decision.We've literally had 313 pages thrashing over why you can't just take places as they are. That's why I ask
I jested earlier, but perhaps there is something to be said for some sort of playoffs to sort the critical issues out.Yeah i know. I mean, we can all speculate but I don't think there is a manner to end the season that pleases everybody. Whether you declare it null and void, whether you take current placings as final, or whether you have an average points per game, nobody knows for sure what the best solution is. The PL should just go for one of the options and make a decision.
The only thing I know for certain is that continuing on poses a very big health risk.
Come on you can't be serious, they've just opened it up to everyone over 5 in the UK, I'm sure capacity can handle 700 PL tests every few days.Are all these PL tests affecting testing (namely speed of results) for the general public - most notably NHS/Care Homes/Key Workers?
I understand they're being privately done, but they must be using up Lab capacity that otherwise could be used for the above?
Got my answerCome on you can't be serious, they've just opened it up to everyone over 5 in the UK, I'm sure capacity can handle 700 PL tests every few days.
They're paying for it all, and they'll be falling over themselves to make sure they're not using any resources that will hold up any key workers results.
They made the majority of the population realize they could die if they leave the house. Which is a good thing because that is the case.That's the one thing the govt have got right, they've scared people into thinking they will die if they leave their house. Law of averages some footballers were going to fall into that group.
yeah its Woan. Read it on skysports websiteBurnley assistant manager is one who's tested positive apparently.
Yeah Football restarting could well save a lot peoples jobs at clubs and maybe even other jobs connected to football and i hope it does.Even though I’m still to be convinced that the PL will be able to make a “success” of Project Restart at the very least it will lay the groundwork and set a framework for the logistics of staging football BCD. Its likely that much, if not all, of next season depends on finding ways to co-exist with the virus. Today’s test results were bound to have some positives and if anything the low % of positive cases is encouraging. A long way to go yet but the first step was a good one.
Regrading Deeney and anyone who doesn’t feel comfortable training, or making a return to games, each person has a personal choice to make - in his case it’s perfectly understandable as his circumstances are risky to say the least. I applaud him for being so direct, open and honest in how he is thinking. Of course if large numbers of players feel the same then it’s likely to put an end to the project.
On the wider issue of why is football even considering starting up you have to think in terms of livelihoods. I don’t trust this govt to look after people whose jobs may disappear as a result of all this - considering they sent elderly patients with covid back into care homes just to say that “the nhs wasn’t overwhelmed” it’s unlikely they will have much sympathy for low paid workers.
Distilling top level football down to 22 millionaires kicking a ball on a patch of grass is a convenient way to forget about the thousands of “normal” folk with average or low wages whose jobs are linked to the game. We all focus a lot on wages, transfer fees, agents fees, ticket prices etc and they are all out of control and should be scrutinised but we sometimes forget that generally football is more a force for good than bad.
6 out of over 700 is nothing unfortunately it’ll need more than that to stop the PL from resuming.Gosh, I so shocked! Who would have predicted that??
Sad for Liverpool fans only, but this whole thing is a farce.
Just accept it's done for and start planning for next season.
I completely agree with you. It might only be 6 out of 700. However, if Watford gets relegated now they can point to this as a disadvantage. They have employees who can't work and have to isolate. Other clubs have everyone passing and can work.My point is there is just no way this can be contained within football over so many games.
There is guaranteed to be undetected asympomatic carriers who get into training and games and infect others, who then take it home. In fact its all the fears and points that Deeney raises above.
Also, because of infection, contact tracing and self isolation protocols, we will quickly reach a stage where it will be 'Everton U23's vs Stratford High School 1st XI (standing in for West Ham)' type scenario.
The return is for financial reasons, plain and simple. But if it does happen and that filters down to other people then that is something to be happy about. Plus the more money the PL can bring in during what could be a tough time for the game in general then I hope that some of it can be used to help stop EFL clubs from going bust.Yeah Football restarting could well save a lot peoples jobs at clubs and maybe even other jobs connected to football and i hope it does.
Though we all know that wasn’t the primary concern behind this push to complete the PL season.
It’s one thing to ‘resume’. It’ll be quite another feat to complete the league. I think there is very little chance of that happening.6 out of over 700 is nothing unfortunately it’ll need more than that to stop the PL from resuming.
Yes, football is an industry. Unfortunately some people will lose their jobs in the football industry, just like they will in every other industry.Football isn't just a game though...it's a business and it employs thousands of people, if not tens of thousands of people, not including the players or staff on hourly wages that support them.
You keep speaking for everybody in general and are completely ignoring individual decisions that make sense. Both are not mutually exclusive. If I have concerns about my job that may touch the well-being of my family, it’s more than just ok to continue questioning the decision makers until they have answers that satisfy me.The entitlement of thinking that the entire industry should not be back at work because a few individuals are uncomfortable with the situation. If I'm uncomfortable about going to the office, I wouldn't be asking my entire company to not open at all.
The tests start now when the teams first start to exercise in little groups - so if you have players infected you only have to isolate the single player - in some days you might have to isolate the whole little group. I guess the last week the teams will go totally into team quarantine.The sooner you realize some people have their agendas to pursue, the quicker you'll understand certain reactions. I mean it's quite obvious that 6 out of 700+ tested people is excellent news for project Restart. I'm quite sure and confident that people know that the point of these tests is to find out about positive cases, isolate them then treat them in time for when the league gets back which is about a month from now. But you'll still have people trying to paint this entire situation and bit of information as catastrophic news in order to push and get on with the agendas.
So Danny “what stupid thing am I gonna say this week” Rose reckons PL footballers are being used like lab rats. Honestly, some of these players really don’t help themselves sometimes. They’ve not got a clue beyond their bubble.Just off the fact that people are suggesting we should go back to football, like we’re guinea pigs or lab rats.
credibility of the comp now is becoming a joke...just call it off and give lfc their *Tweet
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Deeney must already be very happy with his decision.
The cynic in me thinks the Premier League just want to get enough games in to confirm Liverpool as champions and then if it has to be called off it can be.It’s one thing to ‘resume’. It’ll be quite another feat to complete the league. I think there is very little chance of that happening.
PL games being played will lead to the virus being spread, there will be some hospitalisations and even deaths directly linked to the stupidity starting it up again and this whole thing will end in a fiasco of condemnation and law suits.
They care about money way more than fecking Liverpool, it wouldn't matter who was at the top, they're a desperate organisation that need to finish the season.The cynic in me thinks the Premier League just want to get enough games in to confirm Liverpool as champions and then if it has to be called off it can be.
I don't understand this post. You're suggesting people are being over cautious during the pandemic and worrying too much?That's the one thing the govt have got right, they've scared people into thinking they will die if they leave their house. Law of averages some footballers were going to fall into that group.
Let's just hope the safety protocols are enough to contain spread in such a situation or football will be dead for the foreseeable future. Feel we should want this thing to succeed so we aren't looking at a 2021 or 2022 resumption. There's a bigger picture to look at and in a worst case scenario some of these players will be slammed with a harsh reality the first week they don't receive their paycheck. I can already see it, your local club's captain, coming to a tesco near youOnce full training together starts and the bcd matches, it will only take one player to be positive, and then their full team, and possibly coaches, physios etc, and their families are quarantined right? Also teams they have just played against, and obviously had contact with will all have to quarantine for 14 days too right, and contact tracing for them too? Add to that the fact that infected players coaches etc may be not showing symptoms for days can be spreading it until the next round of tests.
If there is this kind of stop start for teams and games, how the heck can they schedule things and wouldn't fitness then drop even further for clubs and no training sessions. It will become even more of a farce than it already is, to be playing a 90 min contact sport right now or even in the months to come.
I'd be surprised if there were not more interuptions for one reason or another. Joke. Play golf instead.
If they really want Liverpool to be champions then they can do what other leagues have done and name them champions. It's hardly the most pressing outstanding issue from their POV.The cynic in me thinks the Premier League just want to get enough games in to confirm Liverpool as champions and then if it has to be called off it can be.
The problem is not the player.. it is the families. Most of these players will get mild symtoms as they are fit and healthy. But are their families being tested twice a week?Pay me 100k per week when my colleagues are being tested twice a week, and I'd be happy to have them within 10 cm of me. Not to mention when you have to use public transport at full capacity, social distancing kind of goes out of the window.