I agree with you, and think that it be stopped. But it's not, why? Because all the clubs, including us, are in favour of a return. The players for the most part are keeping their head down and doing as they're told.The key point here is that footballers aren't being treated like other workers. They're being rushed back to work earlier than those in similar roles (i.e. roles that are totally nonessential and totally incompatable with social distancing) for financial and political reasons. No amount of increased testing (which itself is problematic and only ever so effective) changes that fact.
And pointing to the amount of money they earn as if that means they should be more willing to risk their health is an utterly braindead response. They're paid to be footballers, that's it. They're not paid to take increased risks in the middle of a pandemic.
If you have vulnerable family you wouldn’t be happy working in either conditions, obviously. Primark isn’t even open anyway.Conveniently ignored my post that the risk is minimized through extensive testing, I see.
Would you be more comfortable playing a game of football with 21 others who've been tested regularly over the past few days or would you rather work in an overcrowded Primark where social distancing isn't respected either?
Footballers arent immune to making this choice. They cant sit out until theres a vaccine so they can either go to work or step aside.If you have vulnerable family you wouldn’t be happy working in either conditions, obviously. Primark isn’t even open anyway.
Yep.I agree with you, and think that it be stopped. But it's not, why? Because all the clubs, including us, are in favour of a return. The players for the most part are keeping their head down and doing as they're told.
When we talk about the PL/FA giving zero fecks about threat to players families - the same could be said for us
Your standard response when someone calls you out on a bad post, sigh.
There's no point in having a discussion with him. Anytime you bring forward a valid argument his standard response is "Please remember that you are a GUEST on OUR forum so I don't need to EXPLAIN myself to YOU, I hope YOU get BANNED once Liverpool wins the league".Tbh you have chosen little bits of her post to make yourself look better . The poster made some very good points but you choose to ignore that and instead decided to be a dick and try and pick a fight
This is why the Juve fans told them to feck off when they did the Heysel Tribute at Anfield. They have always been a hypocritical bunch.Tweet
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This is why the Juve fans told them to feck off when they did the Heysel Tribute at Anfield. They have always been a hypocritical bunch.
Why don't you just stop talking around things and admit that you couldn't care less about player's safety or how many people die, you simply want Liverpool to win the league whatever the cost? It's not that difficult.
Oh well.RobinLFC said:For the record, I understand Deeney's view. I also wouldn't want to be playing sports as a professional athlete if I didn't know the long-term consequences this virus has on my body.
Totally agree with this. If my employer decides I have to come back to work because they deem it safe then I either go in, or face the consequences. Clearly pressure will be applied to me to go in and do my job, or lose it. Footballers are not unique and in fact, if the club says "fine, we won't pay you until you do" the average PL player will be in a better position than most who have to work to keep paying the bills.Footballers arent immune to making this choice. They cant sit out until theres a vaccine so they can either go to work or step aside.
Im not having a go at them or being harsh, its a choice all workers with vunerable relatives must make.
True. Except couple of posters, rest seems to be here to have some fun by trolling.The ban steamroller needs to absolutely obliterate a lot of people from the last two pages.
If the reports are true, then he's either got a very low intellect, genuinely doesn't realise what's going on as he lives in such a privileged bubble, or is incredibly arrogant.Aurier seems like an absolute prick. He just doesn't care at all about the rules and I hope Spurs fine him heavily.
He's just celebrating his negative test results by treating himself to a haircut. After all what better way to do that than by exposing yourself to infection. No doubt he planned on carrying said infection to training today to share with his teammates. Bubbly guyAurier seems like an absolute prick. He just doesn't care at all about the rules and I hope Spurs fine him heavily.
Walker's another one. He's not paid attention to lockdown at all.Aurier seems like an absolute prick. He just doesn't care at all about the rules and I hope Spurs fine him heavily.
thanks to some of these knobs we might not even have a next season. Matter of time before someone brings an infected barber to the hotel or sees an escort before gameday and takes it to the pitchWalker's another one. He's not paid attention to lockdown at all.
Tbh if they did that, next season would be one of my last thoughts.thanks to some of these knobs we might not even have a next season. Matter of time before someone brings an infected barber or sees an escort before gameday and takes it to the pitch
Because it's only entertainment to you. The number of clubs that will go bankrupt and the jobs that will be lost are a bigger issue than the entertainment. And in a way Football is also one of our country's bigger exports. We lose big without international tv deals and sponsorshipsTbh if they did that, next season would be one of my last thoughts.
Football next season isn't a right.
Unless you have money at stake then it's also only entertainment for you.Because it's only entertainment to you. The number of clubs that will go bankrupt and the jobs that will be lost are a bigger issue than the entertainment. And in a way Football is also one of our country's bigger exports. We lose big without international tv deals and sponsorships
Some guy on Twitter said he should just suck it up and go to work like the supermarket workers have. I replied saying it’s an essential service unlike football. Footballs just entertainment. And Deeney is fortunate enough to be the position to be able to not turn up to work and fair play to him for making the best decision for his son.Tweet
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Missed the point completely. Giving it another try. No football at all next season= bankruptcy, rise in unemployment, fall in tax revenue etc = we all lose.Unless you have money at stake then it's also only entertainment for you.
I don't think players will care if international TV deals are at risk, nor should they. They might just want to play their football which is their right. But I doubt international TV deals and clubs they have no affiliation to going bust will be at the forefront on their mind, if other players have been irresponsible and put them at risk.
Its already been discussed here somewhere but liverpool wanted it cancelled because they were down the bottom
He is a monumentally stupid individual, both on and off the pitch and, if I do still care about football in the same way once this is all done, I can't wait to see the back of him.Aurier seems like an absolute prick. He just doesn't care at all about the rules and I hope Spurs fine him heavily.
We better have it next year if they finish one.Tbh if they did that, next season would be one of my last thoughts.
Football next season isn't a right.
Whilst I don't deny clubs will struggle and some will go under, you're talking in extremes and absolute extremes at that.Missed the point completely. Giving it another try. No football at all next season= bankruptcy, rise in unemployment, fall in tax revenue etc = we all lose.
Generally any major industry getting maimed for a year will leave a mark on any country. Not even specific to football.Whilst I don't deny clubs will struggle and some will go under, you're talking in extremes and absolute extremes at that.
Best we just leave it at that.
Again mate, this applies to everybody doesn't it? We all have families who are at risk and I am not saying footballers don't have a right to be worried about their families. My point is all these players have enough resources to make separate arrangements for at risk family members.The problem is not the player.. it is the families. Most of these players will get mild symtoms as they are fit and healthy. But are their families being tested twice a week?
I agree with most of what you're saying but the crux of the matter is:Again mate, this applies to everybody doesn't it? We all have families who are at risk and I am not saying footballers don't have a right to be worried about their families. My point is all these players have enough resources to make separate arrangements for at risk family members.
I don't think any fans want to win the title whatever the cost?Why don't you just stop talking around things and admit that you couldn't care less about player's safety or how many people die, you simply want Liverpool to win the league whatever the cost? It's not that difficult.
Aren't they separated for events such as World Cups or Euros? That's a point Neville made, which I agree with completely, that they could've held the final matches over 4-6 weeks like a tournament where everyone has to stay together. That's usually what happens in major tournaments.I agree with most of what you're saying but the crux of the matter is:
do the players have to be separated from their loved ones?
It’s all included in the * trophy that Liverpool FC will be awarded in a few weeks time.They’re a tetchy bunch and the last few months would have been hilarious if it weren’t for the 300+k dead worldwide
Crippled by fear or genuinely worried about his young child that has breathing difficulties?In all fairness though he's just another individual who's been crippled by fear. Constant depressing news about the number of deaths increasing day after day after day. There's plenty of others just like him. It's gotten to the stage now I reckon where the biggest danger lies more in long-term mental health issues for thousands & thousands of people who've all who've been mentally scarred by the events of the past few months. Footballers are not like your everyday Joe Bloggs who work in a factory or building site. They live an isolated life anyway & so this stuff probably feeds on their insecurities more than it would for the rest of us.
You mean it's not true? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.Spot on analysis - Liverpool as a city and it’s fan base are well known for their love of all things Tory. Bill Shankly was a massive Tory and now Klopp carries on that tradition - he always votes for right wing parties. Prefers a tax cut to good public services.
All 5 mps in Liverpool are Tory. The city’s shift rightwards gathered momentum in the 80s when Liverpool embraced Thatcherism. Geoffrey Howe even wrote a letter to Thatcher saying how Liverpool was a bastion of Toryism and they must pour more money into it.
And as for right wing newspapers well the city even has a campaign encouraging people to buy a particular one.
Let me know when you’re mixing up politics and football again. Big fan of your take on the city and it’s political leanings.
