Really? Have you told anyone? If only they knew we could stop all this pesky economic damage and not bother developing a costly vaccine.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Really? Have you told anyone? If only they knew we could stop all this pesky economic damage and not bother developing a costly vaccine.
I don't think it's died out but i equally don't think relaxing restrictions gradually equals walking straight into a second wave, early evidence seems to agree.
We will be almost completely out of lockdown on the 6th of June. From next Friday we will no longer have to wear face masks outside (only in shops), starting next Friday they will reopen all cinemas and theatres at half capacity and will lift any restrictions on the number of people in bars and restaurants, gyms and swimming pools will be open and all hotels will operate normally (now they have to close restaurants and any leisure areas). Live concerts and events can take place with maximum 150 in attendance.
Whos we?
Poland.
I fear it may be a bit premature but on the other hand I’d say about 60% or more people here don’t really believe the virus exists (with half of them blaming 5G and Bill Gates) so keeping restrictions was not going to work. If we get second wave we won’t be able to put any restrictions through though so fingers crossed it really dies out now...
We are very close in Australia but the odd case we can't trace keeps popping up. Only 6 new cases yesterday but we had 14 the day before due to quite a few cases arraign on a transport shop from overseas in WA - all isolated on the ship or transferred to medical quarantine. And we had a handful of cases that became symptomatic while people were in quarantine after arriving by air from Doha last week. I can't believe the UK is only just now thinking about quarantine.
the list of exemptions in the U.K. for when the quarantine is introduced is ridiculous anyway.
as a cop I can waltz back into the U.K, go back to work the next day, and spend the day merrily going onto peoples houses.
We really have had the most half assed versions of measures other countries have taken.
In for a penny, in for a pound i say.
Unfortunately around here the horse has bolted long ago
He’s just dying for his pint in a pub
You were my ray of sunshine and hope in this thread, now I think we are all doomed
That’s cherry picking numbers. The trend lines are holding and the last data in will often be low. Hell, the same guy retweeted this:
You could also look at this state by state, though again take all numbers with some hesitation: Reuters
I know it's obvious and it was bound to happen but I am dreading the fallout of this. The job losses etc.
A friend of mine works in the government and said the thing will be an absolute shitshow and if you have a job over the next couple years then you're one of the lucky few
I imagine all industries will be hit but certain ones significantly more
A friend of mine works in the government and said the thing will be an absolute shitshow and if you have a job over the next couple years then you're one of the lucky few
I imagine all industries will be hit but certain ones significantly more
I concur. AU and NZ are close to being able to open up travel between the 2 countries. If only we can stamp the bloody thing out. We only have a handful of new infections but until we have a few weeks of zero community transmission it won't happen.
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When does everyone think we'll be able to see someone outside of our household within 2 metres? Ie grandparents, partners etc. 2m could be 200m when you want a hug/shag. I'm hoping it's part of the June 15th proposed change but they aren't announcing it until then as people would just start it tomorrow if they did.
Early evidence isn't very meaningful as you are heading into summer and there are still significant restrictions. Compulsory quarantine might help stem the tide a bit.
What do you guys think of Tony Robbins take on things? This undermines the pandemic.
This fits my theory that everyone who is a motivational speaker is a massive prick.
We started early May by opening shopping centers, continued May 18 by opening bars and restaurants with limited capacity. Cases have been at around 300-400 per day since early April, no decline or incline since. Some days it’s just over 400, most days it will be between 350 and 400. Our highest death toll was on April 24 with 40 but for the last three weeks anywhere between 10 and 20 a day. What’s weird is that there was nobody on the streets in March and cases were doubling every few days. Everyone has been out doing their own stuff in May yet there have been no increases.
Bunch of cnuts with an agenda. Some might be genuinely idiots. There's no "hidden science" in there, just stupid opinions.
You know what I mean, it’s not over but it’s clearly on its way out. Number of deaths, and other measures, are less than half of what they were and the virus is getting to the stage where it’s unsustainable. Most of the transmission seems to be in places like hospitals, care homes and prisons and your chances of getting it sunbathing on Bournemouth beach are minimal. The lockdown is being gradually lifted and the main problem now is that the government did too good a job in scaring people into staying at home.
Agreed.
Thanks. That’s a lot of cases over a long period of time. How are your hospitals coping? Are they managing to get much non-covid stuff done?
It really isn't on it's way out. It is just when the next wave comes and how much we reduce it's peak with behavioral and other changes. I'll be really surprised if we get to Christmas without a second wave.
They are fine. There were issues early on but now we have dedicated hospitals for covid-19 cases, other hospitals are operating normally. To be fair these numbers are low enough that most hospitals are not really getting too many new cases per day, and most cases are in Silesia so the rest of country is much less busy. And even in Silesia there seem to be many empty beds.
It's been almost 4 weeks since Italy was allowed back outside and 2 weeks since most businesses were allowed to repoen, and still no rise in cases. The only thing that hasn't resumed is lots of people being allowed to cram indoors. Maybe this is all we need to avoid to kill the virus off.
What is also interesting is that Italy is beginning to add the random serological tests to the new case numbers and in the area they are doing it it is doubling the figures.
What is also interesting is that Italy is beginning to add the random serological tests to the new case numbers and in the area they are doing it it is doubling the figures.
That's very similar to Germany. Bars and restaurants have been open for two to three weeks now depending on the state (and with almost full capacity) and there hasn't been an increase in numbers. They keep declining and are also at around 300-400 at the moment. Only ~8000 active cases remain and the R number is at ~0.7 currently. Also the country's biggest outdoor cinema festival will be taking place from June until August, limited to 1000 seats (from 2500).
You are too nice. So much utter bullshit in there.
Weather getting warmer and people have still altered their behaviour. Unless we get a vaccine there will be a second wave. It is just when and how bad.
The main sign of a government having done a good job will be them getting accused of over-reacting once we have a vaccine.
Is it too early to conclude that warm weather weakens the virus? Certainly the circumstantial evidence is there.
It's not on it's way out, it's just under control but that's not a permanent immovable state.
Our behaviour is the variable here and whilst it's positive that lesser controls seem to work in containing it that doesn't mean back to normal. It also doesn't mean that it won't remain at low levels before exploding again at some point.
You could be right of course and I'm not trying to say you're definitely wrong but reading such messages is concerning as it indicates a wider sense that we can all relax.
There is no evidence that I have seen that informs us how SARS-CoV-2 behaves in response to weather conditions. However, It is likely that most of the "winter" effect on viral infections in general is down to us being more snotty and sneeze in cold weather combined with factors like us living inside more in winter, closing more windows, packing inside pubs instead of using pub gardens etc etc etc. If we also relax regulations and get more casual about social distancing then there is a good chance we will see a second wave in October/November IMO.
From that FT article:
Does anyone have a feel for why Peru is quite so high on the chart? I got the impression that they locked down fairly early and that it was quite a tough lockdown.