[ManRed]

Still not over the game this morning. When a draw feels like a loss

 

[freeurmind]

Still not over the game this morning. When a draw feels like a loss

Just gutted. Getting bantered at work also not helping. Freaking hurts.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Still not over the game this morning. When a draw feels like a loss

I hope the squad recovers from it better than the fans. There definitely seems to be a sense dread for the caf. It would also serve to give Leicester the pick me up they needed. Hence we really need to respond with some quality displays over the next few games.

 

[Feed Me]

I hope the squad recovers from it better than the fans. There definitely seems to be a sense dread for the caf. It would also serve to give Leicester the pick me up they needed. Hence we really need to respond with some quality displays over the next few games.

Doubt from the fans is totally understandable because this team has never given us any reason to ultimately expect anything other than failure. The proof will be in the pudding, but based on historical data, my assumption is that we will feck this up.

 

[gajender]

I think that game will have killed the momentum we had. Not sure I can see us getting 3 points at Palace and I don't trust these players in a crunch game against Leicester. They love bottling it as soon as there's any pressure.

Not much different from some of the supporters we have then first sign of difficulty post lockdown resumption you seem to have given up on the team , no matter which way you slice it we are favourites for top 4 despite this result just have some faith game against Leicester game would be inconsequential .

 

[Camilo]

First game I watched since the restart, so disappointing. Southampton were superb to be fair, but we changed nothing to get a foothold in the game. Really poor to watch. They pressed us very well, but with our midfield and forwards being who they are, that should have played right into our hands. A better team destroys Southampton last night.

Ole has work to do.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

While I’m absolutely gutted with losing the 3 points I think we have to cut the players some slack considering how well we have played of late and ultimately a draw isn’t the worst result (still gained points on our rivals). You can’t win every game in the Prem and if we could we would be winning the league not fighting for the top 4. I’m still confident that Chelsea and Leicester will drop more points for certain so we just need to respond. The mark of great teams is being have to get that response from the lads.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Also easy to say but if Southampton played like that against Leicester or Chelsea on current form they would have won. They deserve massive credit.

 

[fergosaurus]

It was tough to concede like that at the end but we're on an 18 game unbeaten run to keep some perspective. I'm willing to give us the benefit of the doubt that this was just a blip and not the end of another false dawn. We should've killed the game but Soton were well organised and got lucky with the Romeu incident and us having to play with 10 men at the end. I still believe we'll get at least fouth but that was a humbling result which will test the team's character.

 

[PeteManic]

The big game is at the weekend against Chelsea. United will still get CL as Leicester are long gone.

 

[FrankWhite]

Disappointing result and a chance missed. Some of the players were poor, chances were missed, they should have had players sent off, unlucky injuries but for me, the main thing, after thinking about it was in game management.
It was pretty evident from the get go that we were not good enough to play through the press. After realising this, we needed to make a decision to bypass it. It was evident from the way our forwards got joy against them, mostly creating their own chances.
also, I would have taken off Bruno for Mctominey and push Pogba further up.
Just goes to show, this is the premier league. No one gives it to you, you have to take it.
Aaah oh well, we move.

 

[UpWithRivers]

I am gutted but I dont understand how badly everyone is taking this. Southampton were very good. They basically did to us what we did to Man City and the top teams this season. High press, pace, look for space behind full backs, keep compact etc. In fact Southampton just did this to City a week ago. Even though we have been sht this year we have played well against the top teams simply by doing this effectively. Dan James was frigging awesome in a lot of those games that shows average players can look good if a system is implemented that is the antithesis of the other teams style. With this 11 we have now come full circle whereby the smaller teams we will hammer but the better teams we may not do so well against. Or teams that press us and we are no longer sitting deep and counter attacking. Again this is a learning curve for Ole. Its easier to say in hindsight but a tough decisions need to be made in these types of games whereby we drop Pogba or Fernandes. Personally I would drop Fernandes and play 3 in midfield - Pogba, Fred, Matic and probably drop Greenwood for James.

 

[GaryLifo]

Not much different from some of the supporters we have then first sign of difficulty post lockdown resumption you seem to have given up on the team , no matter which way you slice it we are favourites for top 4 despite this result just have some faith game against Leicester game would be inconsequential .

Well said. I don't think many of our so-called fans can deal with any anxiety as a football fan. They can only be happy if we win 4-0 and the other team never have a shot.

I'd also like to point out that Southampton's entire gameplan is designed around making good attacking teams look less good. It's what they do and they are very good at it. However, there's a reason they are 12th and that's because it's not as good against teams who are all about defending.

In short, I don't know why a single result throws so many people into a doom spiral. I've said it before, but I honestly don't think football is good for them.

 

[crossy1686]

Intensity seems to still be an issue for us at times. You can beat a high press with one touch football and good movement but we saw a lot of dwelling on the ball and getting caught out which gave Southampton something to chase.

I’m annoyed as anybody but we can’t win all our games, we have to drop points in some. As long as we use this as an opportunity to refocus and win our last 3 games we’ll be fine.

Put it this way, I’m glad we did this now instead of the last game of the season and didn’t finish in the top 4 due to it

 

[Red00012]

Lads, Greenwood was anonymous today too. Which is expected for a 17 yr old.

18

 

[Josh 76]

Intensity seems to still be an issue for us at times. You can beat a high press with one touch football and good movement but we saw a lot of dwelling on the ball and getting caught out which gave Southampton something to chase.

I’m annoyed as anybody but we can’t win all our games, we have to drop points in some. As long as we use this as an opportunity to refocus and win our last 3 games we’ll be fine.

Put it this way, I’m glad we did this now instead of the last game of the season and didn’t finish in the top 4 due to it

It's easy to say you can beat the high press with one touch, but you need the players who can play one touch.

 

[Red00012]

I've been asking the same over and over. How is this not a red? How can VAR not go back and look at this and give a red? It was blatant and intentional.

If the ref had a pair of balls and goes down to The screen and looks at it , then he shows Romeu the red.

 

[freeurmind]

We've been here before with this team last season. People need to stop acting like the worry about the team bottling a seemingly easy run-in just to get Top 4 is crazy or coming from some unknown place. We have players who are so much better than what Southampton have which is shown by what was happening in the respective final thirds.
But they outworked us and they had better tactics. And there's no excuse for that. We were at home in effectively a must-win game. And the performance was poor against a team that effectively has nothing to play for.
I wish I could be optimistic and joyful and happy and confident but this team has beaten that out of a large section of the fanbase over the past few years.

 

[MikeeMike]

And my point is that it isn't about what a ref feels or believes. These incidents happen very quickly. I don't blame the ref. I blame VAR for not looking at it one time and immediately calling for a red card. Would you rather the league was full of a bunch of Romeus or a Greenwood?

We agree sir. I’m only looking for a reason why a red was not given as it was clear as day for me. Maybe the rolling on ground gave wrong signals. Maybe the Bruno penalty given (in my opinion) wrongly.
Who knows. From any angle it was a shocking tackle and very very late.
le Tissier showing blinkered bias claiming it was an accident is embarrassing.

 

[RashysTekkers]

This place blew up every time we have a bad result. Some of the so called fans here seem happier when we drop points. I really cant wrap my head around this.

 

[Pearl's a minger]

Still fuming now!!! Bang average performance from too many players. Southampton did there usual game raising shithousery as expected. Thought I'd been transported back to the mourinho days" sitting back and inviting an equaliser" which obviously happened. Awful ,awful 2nd half performance. That being said Brandon's injury didn't help matters but still should of been professional enough to see the game out. Two soft goals .... again!!! And don't even get me started on de geas kicking. Times like this I wish I had a cat!!!!

 

[Siorac]

You really expect Leicester and Chelsea to not drop points?! The same teams that got battered by Bornemouth and Sheffield just the other day.

We just need to concentrate on winning the next 2 and see then what needs to be done on the last game - if anything at all.

After yesterday's game I highly doubt we can win our next two.

 

[Parma Dewol]

Gut-wrenching result. So close to staking a firm claim to third spot, ugh!

Last night felt like the honeymoon lockdown period was coming to and end. As good as we've been over the last few weeks - I've thoroughly enjoyed watching us - I've also felt that the new way of playing has been in our favour. Without the intensity of 'real' football, it seemed opposing teams were standing off us, and that allowed our quality to shine through.

Yesterday was more like 'proper' football. Southampton were in our face from the get go, they were willing to making crunching tackles, and with neither the time nor the space, it seemed like our deeper players were getting caught on the ball far too frequently. Felt like it was back to the usual routine of every opponent raising their game for United.

Bruising encounter but no time to sit around licking our wounds. Two more games in a week that will play a huge part in shaping our season.

 

[RiqCantona]

The result hurts like anything. Was feeling quite gutted and then decided to do some digging. Everyone has over-analysed everything already and blasting the team left and right. But there's a couple of things that I would like to point out:
1. Southampton has the 4th best away record this season. Only teams who have faired better while travelling are City, Liverpool, and Chelsea.
2. They beat City just last week at home as well - which means they are a quality side.
3. Our record against them in PL since 2013 is 5 Wins, 7 Draws, and 2 losses. So they are clearly a bogey team for us.

This was a banana peel for us from the start. So let's not be too hard on ourselves. This was a tough game and they weren't going to pushovers. A couple of mistakes defensively, and couple off missed opportunities - that's all it took.

But let's face it, we weren't going to keep on winning every single game. I guess its best to look past this and take it a little easy. Hopefully we respond strongly from this!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

We conceded two today.

I maintain that Bailly is the better defender, especially when he gets a run of matches going. Just so much more assured and stronger than Lindelof.

He's quicker no doubt. Needs to get his head straight though and back to the quality he showed when Jose signed him

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Gut-wrenching result. So close to staking a firm claim to third spot, ugh!

Last night felt like the honeymoon lockdown period was coming to and end. As good as we've been over the last few weeks - I've thoroughly enjoyed watching us - I've also felt that the new way of playing has been in our favour. Without the intensity of 'real' football, it seemed opposing teams we're standing off us, and that allowed our quality to shine through.

Yesterday was more like 'proper' football. Southampton were in our face from the get go, they were willing to making crunching tackles, and with neither the time nor the space, it seemed like our deeper players were getting caught on the ball far too frequently. Felt like it was back to the usual routine of every opponent raising their game for United.

Bruising encounter but no time to sit around licking our wounds. Two more games in a week that will play a huge part in shaping our season.

Crunching tackles that should have resulted in a red.

I have no idea what was going on in the VAR studio if they couldn't see that was deliberate and nasty. There was an elbow too. It's as if they want to level it each time a big club plays a small one.

 

[Adam-Utd]

If the ref had a pair of balls and goes down to The screen and looks at it , then he shows Romeu the red.

I don't even think the VAR told him about it. They said they "checked it" and deemed it to be fine.

If they thought it was bad enough for the ref to check i'm sure he would have done.

We have to blame the man in charge of VAR that night (Phil mason, fat phil Mitchell)

Crunching tackles that should have resulted in a red.

I have no idea what was going on in the VAR studio if they couldn't see that was deliberate and nasty. There was an elbow too. It's as if they want to level it each time a big club plays a small one.

Since when has that also been allowed? he didn't even get a yellow for it. He did a running forearm smash into Lindelofs face ffs!

It was ridiculous.

 

[Denis' cuff]

The result hurts like anything. Was feeling quite gutted and then decided to do some digging. Everyone has over-analysed everything already and blasting the team left and right. But there's a couple of things that I would like to point out:
1. Southampton has the 4th best away record this season. Only teams who have faired better while travelling are City, Liverpool, and Chelsea.
2. They beat City just last week at home as well - which means they are a quality side.
3. Our record against them in PL since 2013 is 5 Wins, 7 Draws, and 2 losses. So they are clearly a bogey team for us.

This was a banana peel for us from the start. So let's not be too hard on ourselves. This was a tough game and they weren't going to pushovers. A couple of mistakes defensively, and couple off missed opportunities - that's all it took.

But let's face it, we weren't going to keep on winning every single game. I guess its best to look past this and take it a little easy. Hopefully we respond strongly from this!

Good points, tbf but... just wait until that other team that are otherwise a pile of shite until they are inspired to play out of their skins against us, West Ham. They’ll bust a gut to get a result while we fanny about like Arsenal.

Hope I’m wrong, obvs.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

This place blew up every time we have a bad result. Some of the so called fans here seem happier when we drop points. I really cant wrap my head around this.

8 messages, so you are a proper newbie. Welcome

Wait a bit longer, it will implode as some here live on pessimism.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

Not much different from some of the supporters we have then first sign of difficulty post lockdown resumption you seem to have given up on the team , no matter which way you slice it we are favourites for top 4 despite this result just have some faith game against Leicester game would be inconsequential .

Well said.

 

[The Original]

Not much different from some of the supporters we have then first sign of difficulty post lockdown resumption you seem to have given up on the team , no matter which way you slice it we are favourites for top 4 despite this result just have some faith game against Leicester game would be inconsequential .

People really need some sense of perspective. Utd are level with Leicester and a point off Chelsea, with a decent run in. 17 games unbeaten. A draw after a hard game where the team actually did enough to win is fair enough.

 

[Tom Cato]

I AM SO DISAPPOINTED!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Good points, tbf but... just wait until that other team that are otherwise a pile of shite until they are inspired to play out of their skins against us, West Ham. They’ll bust a gut to get a result while we fanny about like Arsenal.

Hope I’m wrong, obvs.

West Haaaam always try hard against us. It's nothing new and if we're honest they have greater quality than their position suggests.

We can't expect anything other than hard games in the last 3.

 

[Denis' cuff]

I don't even think the VAR told him about it. They said they "checked it" and deemed it to be fine.

If they thought it was bad enough for the ref to check i'm sure he would have done.

We have to blame the man in charge of VAR that night (Phil mason, fat phil Mitchell)


Since when has that also been allowed? he didn't even get a yellow for it. He did a running forearm smash into Lindelofs face ffs!

It was ridiculous.

All pretty routine stuff and barely gets a mention but let us get the benefit of a 50/50 decision and the fecking world knows about it.

 

[Denis' cuff]

West Haaaam always try hard against us. It's nothing new and if we're honest they have greater quality than their position suggests.

We can't expect anything other than hard games in the last 3.

Totally agree mate but we could try trying hard against them too. Even better, put them down.

 

[Evans999]

Remember against Aston Villa when Martial looked really annoyed by getting subbed?

Well yesterday he didn't get subbed, If Ighalo would have come on for him after 75 minutes and held the ball up and did what he does best I'm convinced we'd have won that game.

 

[Siorac]

Martial chipped the goalkeeper one on one against Sheffield United, really wasn’t that many games ago.


I appreciate you writing this, as that’s pretty much exactly the way I saw the game, but you come on hear afterwards & wonder if you were on the right channel.

I mean, if either of you seriously believed we were "totally in control" after the first 20 minutes then yeah, you were on the wrong channel. We were reduced to aimlessly hoofing it forward for the last 30 minutes or so, long before we went a man down. We had zero composure, couldn't string two passes together, and were basically just hanging on.

 

[Tom Cato]

Remember against Aston Villa when Martial looked really annoyed by getting subbed?

Well yesterday he didn't get subbed, If Ighalo would have come on for him after 75 minutes and held the ball up and did what he does best I'm convinced we'd have won that game.

If I had come on, we'd potentially have won that game. Not because I'm so great but because the events that unfolded last night would not have transpired. Literally any action other than the ones we saw yesterday would have changed the course of the game entirely. For better or for worse? That's just guesswork.

But technically you are entirely right! If Ighalo would have come on, we'd have a different game!

Again we are the victim to our own folly. Paul Pogba losing the ball carelessly so Southampton can go up 1-0. Brandon Williams being sidelined with a freak headinjury and conceding shortly after.

 

[vanderpants]

3rd place felt so good for all of 60 mins, felt more like a defeat in the end but as Ole said we got what we deserved

 

[Denis' cuff]

We did actually have them on the rack after we went ahead, then, half-time happened and they regrouped. We didn’t.