Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?

  • Sack Ole & appoint new coach ASAP

  • Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild


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Why dont we wait until we don't get top 4 instead of using events that hasn't happened yet as an excuse to slag the manager because we lost this game?
Al criticism is really because we lost this, lets not pretend otherwise
Because it's a discussion forum and we look totally fecked physically. You're telling fans they're not allowed to worry because you're easily triggered regarding Ole, why not just stay out of the thread?
 

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How about the mods restart this poll seeing as the options have been changed since I originally created it?

Option 1 - Sack Ole at the end of the season and replace him.

Option 2 - Keep Ole and back him for a rebuild.
 

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I thought that even with his lack of experience and tactical nous maybe Ole will improve but put simply we will not progress from a 4th/5th placed team under his management. Just relying on individual players to create and score goals rather then coaching them creative football will lead to days today when that 'tactics fmdoesnt come off.

Very limited manager, and I've seen nothing in 18 months to suggest that will change.
 

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It's one defeat but the performances have been steadily declining since Bournemouth. I don't know what the primary reason is so I'm still reserving judgement. But I'm not encouraged by our seeming inability to put together a strong run of performances (results notwithstanding).

Has been happening for years and years already to be fair.
Fatigue and lack of depth. It's not science, mate.
 

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Because it's a discussion forum and we look totally fecked physically. You're telling fans they're not allowed to worry because you're easily triggered regarding Ole, why not just stay out of the thread?
I have to stay out of the thread if I go against hysteria? Who said i was triggered?
I call out stupidity when I see it.
Feck it, lets all pretend we wont get top 4 and pile in. It is, of course, hypothetical piling on since it hasnt happened yet but lets talk shit about Ole anyway
 

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Oh just fck off. He’s been inept today. Stop with your glib unfunny comments
Or you could just feck off with your ridiculous agenda. He had some difficult decisions today to make that he got wrong.
 

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He's got a few more games to show that our fantastic performances after the break weren't just another bounce. A "well-rested strongest 11 for the first time" bounce as opposed to a new manager bounce.

Still holding off judgement but this is all looking too familiar again.
It's reactionary to base it off a few games. You have to look at the season as a whole. We have had good and bad stretches. Currently we are in a bad one.
There's no question that Ole has improved the squad. But I don't think he has maximized the squad. I think we challenge if we get an experienced manager with a system + a couple additions. If Ole remains, we'll probably be good for top 4 next season and maybe an FA or Carabao cup. But I don't think he's a good enough manager to get a 120 % out of a squad like Klopp did. If Klopp was managing UTD next season, we'd be challenging.
The question then is, can Poch be that guy ? He has an offensive system but we don't know if he's a top level manager. But I'd take the risk of Poch regardless if we make top 4 or not. I wouldn't fault Woodward if he kept Ole if he made the top 4. I just think we are 3 - 4 signings away and with the right manager we can challenge. We just need to take the risk with a better manager and spend this summer
 

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Some people would call it reactionary but I have to say looking at how we play, tactically we have been making some serious mistakes.

I think regardless how the season ends, we should talk about how to move forward as a team and if Ole is the right man to take us forward.
He has mismanaged Fernandes, hence his drop in form.
What was he thinking about playing the glacial brothers together?

Maguire , goodness. He is a glaring weakness if we must play with a high line.

Also, Chelsea are a bunch of cnuts with how physical they played the game.
 

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Players looked slow, lethargic and defeated right from the start.

Less rest time, had to travel to London, changed line up...howlers...

Anyway, sack Ole. Am I right?
 

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He ballsed up today with the team. Before the game the talk was about whether we play our best team or rest them and lose. Somehow we did both.

That said, he can’t legislate for what happens when the players step over that white line. We lost to two goalkeeping howlers and an own goal.
 

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It's reactionary to base it off a few games. You have to look at the season as a whole. We have had good and bad stretches. Currently we are in a bad one.
There's no question that Ole has improved the squad. But I don't think he has maximized the squad. I think we challenge if we get an experienced manager with a system + a couple additions. If Ole remains, we'll probably be good for top 4 next season and maybe an FA or Carabao cup. But I don't think he's a good enough manager to get a 120 % out of a squad like Klopp did. If Klopp was managing UTD next season, we'd be challenging.
The question then is, can Poch be that guy ? He has an offensive system but we don't know if he's a top level manager. But I'd take the risk of Poch regardless if we make top 4 or not. I wouldn't fault Woodward if he kept Ole if he made the top 4. I just think we are 3 - 4 signings away and with the right manager we can challenge. We just need to take the risk with a better manager and spend this summer
Feck Poch.
 

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I have to stay out of the thread if I go against hysteria? Who daid i was triggered?
I call out stupidity when I see it
If you don't agree Ole needs to be hanged and his body parts scattered to the four corners of the earth, then you don't understand football.
 

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If he secures top 4 and ideally takes us to the final of the EL, I'd be inclined to give him another season. If he fails to at least secure top 4 then he should go.

Trouble is who would we hire? Poch? Ugh.
 

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18 or 19 games unbeaten. Ffs man get a grip. I swear you lot need to stop whinging whenever something doesn't go your way. It was a bad game. Shit happens.
I have voted sack after the season before the game, it has nothing to do with this result.

It's my opinion he'll never be good enough.
 

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Beat Chelsea and Lampard 3 out 3 this season before today's game, lose and its like some revelation....

Can you guys just admit you have a agenda against Ole
 

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We are tired and we all knew they would press.

You have to start our target man who has been excellent in cups. What a strange decision.

Lindelof is a liability and DDG is as well.

Smalling is a bigger goal threat and better defender than our current best defender which is really problematic.

Also, Smalling is only MARGINALLY worse on the ball than our current defenders. At least he didn't give the ball away.
 

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According to @oreon, a first loss in 19 games is a 'bad stretch.'

Sums this thread up really.
 

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Atleast I’ve got this thread to cheer me up after being disappointed we’re out of the no fan FA Cup* the season with starred trophies.

It’s great we can downplay Liverpool’s league win because there’s no fans and it’s a fecked up season but then all meltdown when we miss out on winning a cup. Top four is priority this year just setup a better season for us next year.

this game was always one too far and Ole was always going to be criticised for team selection because of so many surrounding factors and people’s different opinions.

These are extraordinary circumstances for managers and players with the amount and intensity of games, with everyone being vital. ok, we lost but we’ve been on a great run, 19 games unbeaten? so let’s get on with it and hopefully continue doing what we’ve been doing in the league
 

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I’m not saying sack Ole but there is a reason we have a squad and not just 11 players. This is what happens if we start the same 11 for 5-6 games in a row. This fatigue issue could have easily been fixed by rotating players.
Prioritising the prem games was the right decision. So I don't see that he did anything wrong?

We have a weak squad. Shaw is injured too.

Chelsea had 2 days extra than us, that is huge with this schedule. We HAVE to win our prem games. FA CUP is a luxury at this moment.

Hopefully its all put right with a Europa trophy and top 4.
 

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We need squad players next season. The ones we have are not good enough. We need options. Fred has been poor since restart but considering how he played this season, I will give him a pass for now. Scott too. But rest of the options are terrible.
 

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If you don't agree Ole needs to be hanged and his body parts scattered to the four corners of the earth, then you don't understand football.
No no, its only if we don't get top 4 now. We aren't overreacting to 1 defeat, that would make us look like reactionary children.
Its the future events that we are criticising him for.
 

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There is a pattern to it. Just look at good set pieces. We have been hitting their first man and not our players to flick it on. I really don't understand why some people think it's easy to defend against near post flicks? Once it's flicked then there are many variations to it.
Well if your biggest criticism of Ole is that our corners are hitting the first man too often then he's probably doing pretty well.
 

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Why? Because I dare to support the manager?

We have just lost an FA Cup semi after a 19 match unbeaten run. This was our third game in a week, where we have played home and away, against an opponent who had 48 hours more rest than we did and played a home game against a relegated team, and rested some of their starters from that game too. We made changes as we have had to rest players desperately, and in this game it was terrible individual errors that cost us. At half time, we had had more attempts on goal and off goal according to Sky. Another huge error costs us immediately after half time. Additionally, we were kicked off the park and had little protection from a poor referring performance.

Aye it was a bad day at the office, but fecking hell there were more problems today from individual mistakes tahn anything else. Some of you lot seriously need to get off Ole's back, some of you are just waiting for an excuse to be in this thread and having a go at him.

So I'll say it again, are you even fans?
 

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I haven’t changed my opinion throughout all of this. He should never have been appointed in the first place.
Oh look. Another one we heard nothing from in this thread from February until Tuesday. Wonder why?
 

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Or you could just feck off with your ridiculous agenda. He had some difficult decisions today to make that he got wrong.
Ridiculous agenda? Oh ok actually Ole is fantastic & did a great performance today leading us to a great victory. No complaints from me then.

Why don’t you open your eyes & see he just isn’t good enough
 

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I’d say it again. If a better manager is around in the summer then I hope our board are proactive and pursue that regardless of us getting champions league. That’s how big clubs behave.

Back in 2015, when Klopp left Dortmund we missed the chance because we were happy with LVG scraping Champions league.
 
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We need squad players next season. The ones we have are not good enough. We need options. Fred has been poor since restart but considering how he played this season, I will give him a pass for now. Scott too. But rest of the options are terrible.
It’s all part of the process, OGS has been very good at getting rid of crap like Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Sanchez, Rojo and Lukuku.

We are building, it takes time.
 

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Fatigue and lack of depth. It's not science, mate.
If that's the primary reason then does the way we manage the squad's fitness and freshness levels leave a lot to be desired? It's quite concerning that the only times we really played like an elite team was when we were completely fresh. A few games in and the performance levels dropped terribly.

I see a worrying inability to handle teams that press us half-competently. Inclined to think it's at least partially a system/training issue and not just fatigue.
 

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More than the way we played, I don't get why we went chasing the game if he started players who aren't in his starting 11. If the FA cup meant so much, we should have started our strongest 11.

In the end, we end up with players not getting rested and we losing badly.

The players looked visibly knackered again. The passing was sloppy and most of it seemed due to lack of focus which creeps in with tiredness. FA are a bunch of cnuts with the scheduling. Chelsea getting 2 extra days rest and it clearly showed today. West Ham also get 2 extra days rest for our next game. Wtf are they thinking!
 

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Sack him now. Bring back Moyes. This is getting ridiculous. Todays results should not be the one to decide his future.
We have to beat West Ham and Moyes now. Let's go full blast at them and then beat Leicester to get into the CL.
 
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