If you compare his knockout goals to Messi it is not even close. His numbers are are so far ahead of anyone else when it matters most in the CL.You're going to equate Copa del Rey final to CL final?
How about we look at the latter stages of the CL, think any reasonable person will agree a CL QF/SF is a bigger game than teh Copa del Rey final.
To be fair, it probably took a lot less than nine seasons for him to be comfortable in La Liga haha
Messi and Ter Stegen are their only saving graces. We must be indeed watching different sports. (Barca's midfield and backline are non existent too). This view of yours is really crazy to me.
Not even close. Barcelona are a far better team than Juventus on paper. Only thing I would say Juve have the upper hand is the manager, who in my opinion is terrible to begin with.
Yes, Sancho and Werner. Werner's goal output is more impressive than Cristiano's given the former has scored 12 penalties and Sancho is more creative and contributed much more than Cristiano has in years on top of scoring a goal or an assist every 67 minutes for Dortmund - a team with significantly less individual quality than Juventus.Sancho & Werner?I disagree with some of the others too. Mbappe hasn’t even played a full league season and his proportion of goals to his teams output isn’t as large as Ronaldo’s to Juve’s.Juve would be further down the table without Ronaldo’s goals.
It doesn't matter what anyone did against Lithuania because that's not professional football, plain and simple. If Immobile had played against them, too, and decided during he doesn't feel like playing football in that match and instead sit on the greens and play online poker that wouldn't change anything on who has had the better season. You keep sneaking in irrelevant statistics that make Cristiano look better and then are offended that people call you out for it.
A team with less individual quality but play far more cohesively and create chances out of thin air. I’ve seen plenty of Sancho’s assists. They’re usually square balls across the box after brilliant build-up play by the entire team. Rarely some defense splitting pass. Not saying that Sancho isn’t creative but it’s not a level comparison. It’s easier to stat pad goals+assists in his team/league than at Juve.
exactly, on paper and in Football Manager.
highly doubt he's watching anything tbh, let alone other leagues. first it was Inter that are the best team in Italy (he was saying that in september), now it's Atalanta (he said that after that 2-2 draw). don't know what he thinks about Lazio, but it looks like to him Juventus are third or fourth best team in Italy so they certainly can't be better than Barca
I don't get it really. Ronaldo is a fantastic player and has been his entire career, there is no need to come up with alternate version of reality just to big him up even more (same thing with Messi too tbh).exactly, on paper and in Football Manager.
highly doubt he's watching anything tbh, let alone other leagues. first it was Inter that are the best team in Italy (he was saying that in september), now it's Atalanta (he said that after that 2-2 draw). don't know what he thinks about Lazio, but it looks like to him Juventus are third or fourth best team in Italy so they certainly can't be better than Barca
this.
When I criticized Cristiano during his late Madrid years for not participating and contributing enough, people used to tell me that he compensates that since his incredible movement and versatility made it so easy to create chances for him. You basically just needed to cross the ball roughly towards the penalty area and Cristiano would magically make it end in the back of the net. The fact that Juve doesn't create many chances is maybe also down to Cristiano being quite average in that area himself. And before I get criticized for that again: That's not meant as a side dig. What he is doing at his age is mindblowing and more than enough. He doesn't need to be creative on top of it nowadays. But still, I value players that create and initiate attacks more highly than those who finish it - especially if those creators are also pretty good at creating and converting their own chances. That's also the reason why I don't understand people demanding a Ballon D'Or for Lewandowski.
If only people could, at least, argue in the right thread!I might start a thread comparing Charlie Adam to Andrea Pirlo to take some of the vitriol away from this thread
Right, so with equal managers Barcelona would destroy Juventus in terms of quality.exactly, on paper and in Football Manager.
highly doubt he's watching anything tbh, let alone other leagues. first it was Inter that are the best team in Italy (he was saying that in september), now it's Atalanta (he said that after that 2-2 draw). don't know what he thinks about Lazio, but it looks like to him Juventus are third or fourth best team in Italy so they certainly can't be better than Barca
The only thing superior in Juve is there coach and that is not saying much because he is a bang average coach.
Juve are super fortunate to be as far ahead as they have been this season, all Of Lazio, Inter, and Atalanta have played much better football then Juve have.exactly, on paper and in Football Manager.
highly doubt he's watching anything tbh, let alone other leagues. first it was Inter that are the best team in Italy (he was saying that in september), now it's Atalanta (he said that after that 2-2 draw). don't know what he thinks about Lazio, but it looks like to him Juventus are third or fourth best team in Italy so they certainly can't be better than Barca
That's a hard ask
Please don't. It's rubbish watching Juve play.
45 goals in 48 game is irrelevant? I am not talking 1 or 2 games, I am talking about whole season of goals and performances, yet you keep looking back to those 1-2 games to base all your arguments on? How sad.
Trust me I know! Haha
My point exactly
If anyone here can truly say they would put 5 or 10 players above Ronaldo then you should start watching a new sport because you have absolutely lost the plot.
Bro, stop with this nonsense. All those players (except the kid Fati) have all flattered to deceive'm. They have all been very average and at best they reached the "ok" level.
So please tell me which Juve players have performed better then the ones in that Barca squad.
Seriously, adding goals & assists?
But in these Copa Del Rey finals why wasn't Ronaldo in them?You're going to equate Copa del Rey final to CL final?
How about we look at the latter stages of the CL, think any reasonable person will agree a CL QF/SF is a bigger game than teh Copa del Rey final.
The only reason why I am mentioning Lithuania again and again is because you keep sneaking those goals in in order to boost his statistics. You post those numbers and know fully well that they're deceiving, dozens of posters have already told you so months ago. You're doing that on purpose because you want people to think he has done better than he actually has. It's the same with the 12 or 13 penalties he scored this season. You're not lying in the proper meaning of the word but you're deliberately leaving out details in order to influence the perception of him. And that's why this thread derails in regular intervals. Everyone is fine with you celebrating every goal of his and expressing your admiration but once stuff like this gets posted, people feel the urge to correct you and point out the context you gladly ignore. And rightly so.
“sneak these goals in”
Yeah, these goals happened. And people don't value them as much since it's no sign of quality or good performance to score against teams which play on the level of third or fourth division teams. But saying "he scored 45 in 49" in 19/20 but leaving out the crucial information that this includes the stats for his national team, of which 7 occurred against one of the worst national sides in the world, as well as 13 penalties means that important context is left out. I mean, who are you trying to fool here? And even more importantly, why?
No one is trying to achieve anything. We are stating his stats for the season. Mate these are his Literal stats.
Jesus this quarantine truly has some of you off the rails.
If you read my post, I did not say assists don’t matter, but they are not the same as gods and hence should not be added together like they are the same.
Because Real don’t take the CDR anywhere as seriously as Barca, this is true been before either of them made their debut.
