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Don't forget that Rooney was also our talisman. The first name on the teamsheet. So based on contribution alone, it's Rooney for me.
Not even close,Rooneys a living legend....One of the greatest players to have ever played for the club...,Rooney
Solkjaer
Rooney for me. He's the all time top scorer, scored lots of important goals, Solkjaer did so too but was never an integral player in a great team and only scored 20+ goals in a season once. Even Martial and Rashford equaled that this season, heck Greenwood is fairly close to it as well.
Rooney won 3 leagues in a row including a league and CL double and was a main and key player in the starting lineup in them. Honestly him alone being our top goalscorer ever put him ahead of not just Ole but many other of legends too imo. I won't go through the individual awards by the way, that are listed in the OP.
Rooney was our best player in Moyes season and LVG's first season, so I don't get the idea about him being totally past it by then. He only declined massively since LVG's second season. Without him, I don't even know how LVG's first season would have went, he was our only good attacking player upfront in it alongside Mata.
He questioned our transfer policy which he was right about by the way, and it showed on as the years went they we were taking very wrong steps in transfer market. He did this because he was worried about the direction we were going in and wanted the best for the team.
The second transfer request was a myth that doesn't want to die :
These two posts are bang on.This Solskjaer could have joined Spurs is the most stupid thing I've heard in Caf. I mean, they were fecking Spurs, a midtable club. He probably would have also earned less. And they were such a joke that Fergie's grand pep talk was 'Lads, is Spurs'. That's it. It is like saying Rooney could have joined Wolves but he stayed at United. In fact, at his peak, Rooney could have joined almost any club in the world, the likes of Moratti or Perez would have loved to sign him. Sure, he flirted once with the City (though that might have been to get some extra money) but he gave his best years to United, while he could have gone to equally big clubs. Ole had never that chance of being tempted from the big clubs.
What romance is there to Keane story? I loved Keane and he was an instrumental awesome player for us, so was Rooney though so where’s the difference in that?Rooney had a much bigger impact and was a far better player that's not in doubt but Ole is a bigger legend for me.
I just feels fans have a greater affinity for Ole. Rooney broke Sir Bobby's record but he's still nowhere close to being as big of a legend as SBC.
I feel like being a United legend is about your story as well as what you do on the pitch. There's no real romance to Rooney's story outside of his debut. Eric, Class of 92, Sir Bobby, Keane all had great stories to go along with their performances. Ole was the same IMO.
So where would you put Ole, just behind Charlton or above?In terms of career and who the better player was, it's quite obviously Rooney.
But Solskjaer's 'legend' is bigger IMO. He scored the most important goal in the clubs history in the most dramatic fashion - so irrespective of the quality of talent we've had over the years, his place in Utd's history and fandom is uniquely special.
Not sure why you think that's the dumbest thing you've heard, but in case you don't know what happened, allow me to fill in the blanks and add some context:This Solskjaer could have joined Spurs is the most stupid thing I've heard in Caf. I mean, they were fecking Spurs, a midtable club. He probably would have also earned less. And they were such a joke that Fergie's grand pep talk was 'Lads, is Spurs'. That's it. It is like saying Rooney could have joined Wolves but he stayed at United. In fact, at his peak, Rooney could have joined almost any club in the world, the likes of Moratti or Perez would have loved to sign him. Sure, he flirted once with the City (though that might have been to get some extra money) but he gave his best years to United, while he could have gone to equally big clubs. Ole had never that chance of being tempted from the big clubs.
No one has denied all that happened I don’t think but saying it’s an undying loyalty to stay at united in 98 when they were dominating the league Or go to mid table spurs. Come on, especially if Fergie told him he’d get playing time.Not sure why you think that's the dumbest thing you've heard, but in case you don't know what happened, allow me to fill in the blanks and add some context:
In 1998, Tottenham and Manchester United had agreed AND signed a transfer deal for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer worth £5,5m (with inflation that adds to £8,4m in 2020). Martin Edwards (the Manchester United chairman at the time) and Alan Sugar in Tottenam had signed the paperwork and literally the only thing remaining was Ole's signature and he'd have left in 98. At the time he was primarily a bench player and his agent was pushing for the move to allow him to do what most football players actually wants to do: Start football matches.
Sir Alex had a talk with Ole and told him that if he stayed, he'd get enough playing time*. And the rest is as they say, history (*As quoted by Ole recounting the events in 98). It's important to note that the clubs negotiated the move without Ole actually wanting to leave, as does happen when clubs sell players most of the time.
So this move was very very real, the paperwork was ready to go, and it all changed after a heart to heart between player and manager.
So can you explain to me: Which parts of this is "the most stupid thing you have ever heard in Caf"?
It's "crap" in the sense that Ole never wanted to leave.No one has denied all that happened I don’t think but saying it’s an undying loyalty to stay at united in 98 when they were dominating the league Or go to mid table spurs. Come on, especially if Fergie told him he’d get playing time.
I love Solskjær and damn right he’s right up there as a legend for his goal and obvious love for the club but that spurs thing is crap imo.
I’m in argreement with you, but he didn’t choose “the bench”, he chose to be a contributing player to one of the most successful club eras in English football history and to finish his career with a cabinet full of winners medals, rather than a maybe couple of Spurs POTY awards and feck all else. It really depends how you want to frame it.It's "crap" in the sense that Ole never wanted to leave.
It's real in the sense that the clubs had a transfer agreed and it was up to Ole to take it.
The entire point is that the all he had to do was put pen on paper and he'd get a role as a starting player, a route that hundreds of player take every single year in European football. He chose the bench. That's just part of his legacy.
Exactly what value anyone wants to attribute to that is up to them, but it's a fact that happened. If anyone wants to belittle it or make it seem pointless or insignificant, that's entirely their own choice. For me that speaks to the man's character.
You’ve repeated yourself and I’ll end up repeating myself. He didn’t choose the bench here instead of going to a top club elsewhere and winning medals there, it was bloody spurs. That he’s a legend We both agree anyway.It's "crap" in the sense that Ole never wanted to leave.
It's real in the sense that the clubs had a transfer agreed and it was up to Ole to take it.
The entire point is that the all he had to do was put pen on paper and he'd get a role as a starting player, a route that hundreds of player take every single year in European football. He chose the bench. That's just part of his legacy.
Exactly what value anyone wants to attribute to that is up to them, but it's a fact that happened. If anyone wants to belittle it or make it seem pointless or insignificant, that's entirely their own choice. For me that speaks to the man's character.
Acting like turning down Spurs to stay at Manchester United was some heroic, selfless act. Anyone of the top clubs in Europe would’ve had Rooney at his peak. He questioned the clubs’ ambition and guest what, he was right. The clubs top scorer and integral part of a team that won three consecutive titles, plus more and cups with three CL finals in four years. Ole scored the most iconic goal in the clubs’ history which propels his status from very good squad option to legendary.So this move was very very real, the paperwork was ready to go, and it all changed after a heart to heart between player and manager.
So can you explain to me: Which parts of this is "the most stupid thing you have ever heard in Caf"?
Cause it was fecking Spurs. Why any player who had a bit of respect for himself would have wanted to leave United in order to join Spurs? They were a joke of a club.Not sure why you think that's the dumbest thing you've heard, but in case you don't know what happened, allow me to fill in the blanks and add some context:
In 1998, Tottenham and Manchester United had agreed AND signed a transfer deal for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer worth £5,5m (with inflation that adds to £8,4m in 2020). Martin Edwards (the Manchester United chairman at the time) and Alan Sugar in Tottenam had signed the paperwork and literally the only thing remaining was Ole's signature and he'd have left in 98. At the time he was primarily a bench player and his agent was pushing for the move to allow him to do what most football players actually wants to do: Start football matches.
Sir Alex had a talk with Ole and told him that if he stayed, he'd get enough playing time*. And the rest is as they say, history (*As quoted by Ole recounting the events in 98). It's important to note that the clubs negotiated the move without Ole actually wanting to leave, as does happen when clubs sell players most of the time.
So this move was very very real, the paperwork was ready to go, and it all changed after a heart to heart between player and manager.
So can you explain to me: Which parts of this is "the most stupid thing you have ever heard in Caf"?
You are acting like Tranmere Rovers wanted him. Spurs were a bit in a mess, but they have a solid history and they were spending shitload of money at the time while offering him a starting place in their lineup.Cause it was fecking Spurs. Why any player who had a bit of respect for himself would have wanted to leave United in order to join Spurs? They were a joke of a club.
Ole was part of our most iconic moment but Rooney was bigger legend. He was also key player during our most successful period.In terms of career and who the better player was, it's quite obviously Rooney.
But Solskjaer's 'legend' is bigger IMO. He scored the most important goal in the clubs history in the most dramatic fashion - so irrespective of the quality of talent we've had over the years, his place in Utd's history and fandom is uniquely special.
No, but it’s an apt question. As of now, it’s not even a contest imo, Rooney hands down. However, OGS still has a chance to grow his legend. The scouser not so much.Has the question been asked, if Solskjaer wins a league with us as manager would he surpass Rooney?
Would anyone say no?
You put a bit more sense into it than what I was thinking i suppose but I was maybe thinking as a fan, the thought of leaving a Dominating united team to join spurs sounds ridiculous. Every player knows they are going to have to fight for their place regardless. I don’t think what Ole did was out of the ordinary at allYou are acting like Tranmere Rovers wanted him. Spurs were a bit in a mess, but they have a solid history and they were spending shitload of money at the time while offering him a starting place in their lineup.
On the other hand we on top of Sheringham previous season added another striker in Yorke to make fighting for minutes even harder at the time. Many players would leave and everyone would understand it. Ole responded with 18 goals that season and fecked off his agent advice.
If you want to downplay it, go ahead, but to make it sound like it was some straightforward choice is ridiculous.
The night in Turin. It's been over 20 years and people still talk about that performance to this day.What romance is there to Keane story? I loved Keane and he was an instrumental awesome player for us, so was Rooney though so where’s the difference in that?
rooney is our all time leading goal scorer over taking the true club legends record and by doing so helped us towards multiple league wins and a champions league. This is obviously a legends story.
peoole believe the papers too much and once they hear a little snippet of something run with it
Nicky Butt Vs FredWhat’s the point of this comparison? Are we going to do Berg vs Ferdinand next?
How can anybody sensibility say that Ole is Manchester United biggest club legend.Why is Ole ahead of Giggs?
No white text?Why is Ole ahead of Giggs?
Imagine all of us falling for another of Nilly's obvious WUMs.Can an Admin please correct the spelling in the title? Imagine spelling a club legends name wrong in the thread made to debate his legendary status.