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Forgot about him till i saw the Thread he was solid but dont miss him
Just goes to show how weak our options were back then!Forgot about him till i saw the Thread he was solid but dont miss him
The sort of work where you don't wait until the last 6 fecking months to extend the contract of player who (at the time) was a key first-team player.What sort of work would that have been?
There were multiple reports that he turned down £200k per week and wanted £300k plus. No idea of the veracity of all those report but i think it's safe to assume he wasn't staying for around £100k per week.
An award that Luke Shaw won last season.He was a 6 for pretty much the entire 2016/2017 when he won United's POTY.
And Shaw deserved it this season, beside we had many very good performers in 2016/2017, Zlatan, Pogba, Valencia..etc. Not like the squad was poor.An award that Luke Shaw won last season.
I’d take Herrera every day of the week over Fred. I’ve never rated Fred, and whilst he was ok at the start of this season, he’s nothing more than a reserve.I also find the comparison with Fred pretty weird to be honest.
While Fred improved a lot in the first half of this season, he definitely hasn't done anything more than what Herrera did here so far. He's currently a 50m squad option.
I think this is fair. Im so surprised we haven't seen a midfield three more often after Moyes left given our managers and our options availableAnd Shaw deserved it this season, beside we had many very good performers in 2016/2017, Zlatan, Pogba, Valencia..etc. Not like the squad was poor.
Anyway the point is he was capable of playing as a very good and consistent 6 for us as he did in this season.
Ultimately Herrera wasn't actually replaced by the likes of Fred and Scott because, guess what, he was actually starting ahead of them and a main player for us during Ole's honeymoon period when we were playing with Matic-Herrera-Pogba midfield. If anything the one who actually took his place in our main lineup without injuries is Bruno.
I'm not fussed that he left as we did a very good job in building a good midfield now but things like Fred did better this season for United than Herrera just doesn't make any kind of sense whatever way you look into it. Fred has done nothing in his 2 seasons at the club better than what Herrera offered for United, and he's a currently a very expensive bench option. That's about it.
This is much more what i was thinking.He'd be a squad player at best today, competing with Fred and Mctominay as the next in line to replace Matic.
We're not missing him one bit.
Even if he deserved it it’s a poor award. A fickle award.And Shaw deserved it this season, beside we had many very good performers in 2016/2017, Zlatan, Pogba, Valencia..etc. Not like the squad was poor.
Anyway the point is he was capable of playing as a very good and consistent 6 for us as he did in this season.
Ultimately Herrera wasn't actually replaced by the likes of Fred and Scott because, guess what, he was actually starting ahead of them and a main player for us during Ole's honeymoon period when we were playing with Matic-Herrera-Pogba midfield. If anything the one who actually took his place in our main lineup without injuries is Bruno.
I'm not fussed that he left as we did a very good job in building a good midfield now but things like Fred did better this season for United than Herrera just doesn't make any kind of sense whatever way you look into it. Fred has done nothing in his 2 seasons at the club better than what Herrera offered for United, and he's a currently a very expensive bench option. That's about it.
For fouling Di Maria tooWon another trophy tonight, playing this time. Rafael was sent off on the other side
He has Bruno and Pogba ahead of him, what's Ander's excuse for being a 300k/pw squad option?I’d take Herrera every day of the week over Fred. I’ve never rated Fred, and whilst he was ok at the start of this season, he’s nothing more than a reserve.
Herrera, was a much better player, having said that, we haven’t missed him as he wasn’t good enough to take us to a top level.
Neither are good enough to be Man Utd midfielders.
Sure Matis is a better 6 than Herrera, but the poster we saying he could have played as 6 behind Bruno and Pogba and I agree, he would have done a good job there for several matches, even if not as a permanent starter.Even if he deserved it it’s a poor award. A fickle award.
Herrera was not a solid ’6’ definitely not in the sense that Matic is which is why he was replaced the very next season.
Ander was the established option, Fred had a poor start and McT was the understudy. They’ve well and truly replaced him to the point where even discussing Herrera seems completely redundant.
Once again, OGS wanted him to stay. People seriously just spout bullshit 90% of the time, don't they?Hopefully, Bruno has shown folks what a proper creative midfielder looks like. I also hope Fred has shown folks what a proper 'busy' midfielder looks like. This was a brilliant move by United and Ole.
Yep, post is a car crash. Herrera wasn't a CAM here, but CM/DM. Was never meant to be creative like Bruno. Then Fred, who has done nothing so far in his United career and had a good half season. A squad player now and needs 20 games in a row to have decent form and be useable. If we sold him tomorrow, he would be labelled a flop. Lastly your point of Ole wanting to keep him.Once again, OGS wanted him to stay. People seriously just spout bullshit 90% of the time, don't they?
Fred is on the bench and doesn’t play much, a 50M flop (based on what we thought we got) - so no, absolutely not. I’d rather have Herrera and the Fred-money in the pocket. Not that I hate on Fred, but he’s a 5M player and not a 55 one. Would he start for any other Premier League-club, sure a few, not many unfortunately.Hopefully, Bruno has shown folks what a proper creative midfielder looks like. I also hope Fred has shown folks what a proper 'busy' midfielder looks like. This was a brilliant move by United and Ole.
Gueye, Veratti and Marquinos who are all better than Fred and PSG only playing 27 league games before their league finished. If we had all our midfielders fit and only played 27 league games Fred wouldnt have got much of a look in either.He has Bruno and Pogba ahead of him, what's Ander's excuse for being a 300k/pw squad option?
Seems to me that we got the best years out of him, and let him go at exactly the right time.
Fred before the lockdown was pretty good in fact our best midfielder. He is very unfortunate to miss out on starting spot. Herrera's performance here is massively overrated. Is fred a 55m player? Probably not but he is definitely not a 5m player.Fred is on the bench and doesn’t play much, a 50M flop (based on what we thought we got) - so no, absolutely not. I’d rather have Herrera and the Fred-money in the pocket. Not that I hate on Fred, but he’s a 5M player and not a 55 one. Would he start for any other Premier League-club, sure a few, not many unfortunately.
But that price paid for Fred isn't his fault, it's the club's (Woodward/Judge). They overpaid for him when I've read that they were the only club in for him, which is fine, but that they just jacked up the price for whatever reason!Fred is on the bench and doesn’t play much, a 50M flop (based on what we thought we got) - so no, absolutely not. I’d rather have Herrera and the Fred-money in the pocket. Not that I hate on Fred, but he’s a 5M player and not a 55 one. Would he start for any other Premier League-club, sure a few, not many unfortunately.
The last two are starters but his main competition was Paredes and Sarabia, the latter was often preferred to him off the bench. I also remember there was a period when he was fit before the lockdown they played a 17 year old ahead of him for the 6 role, the kid later went to Bayern. Fred takes a few games to get back to the PL tempo but once he does he's more influential than Herrera ever was. He's going to have a big part to play in the rotation next season.Gueye, Veratti and Marquinos who are all better than Fred and PSG only playing 27 league games before their league finished. If we had all our midfielders fit and only played 27 league games Fred wouldnt have got much of a look in either.
Sarabia is an AM who played LAM at Sevilla and got loads of assists for them last season. No he wasnt competition for Ander HerreraThe last two are starters but his main competition was Paredes and Sarabia, the latter was often preferred to him off the bench. I also remember there was a period when he was fit before the lockdown they played a 17 year old ahead of him for the 6 role, the kid later went to Bayern. Fred takes a few games to get back to the PL tempo but once he does he's more influential than Herrera ever was. He's going to have a big part to play in the rotation next season.
Carry? McTominay was no worseChrist people are really forgetting what Fred did to basically carry the midfield for much of this year with Pogba hurt. That’s sad. He was immense as the year went on, and was a “squad option” more because his style isn’t as needed with Pogba and Bruno as the other two midfielders.
Ok fair enough, the times I watched them I thought he played a bit deeper. Then thats one less competition for him.Sarabia is an AM who played LAM at Sevilla and got loads of assists for them last season. No he wasnt competition for Ander Herrera
Sarabia played 9 times on the right, 4 times as the AMC and 3 times in a forward position. None of these were instead of Ander Herrera, a deep combative midfielder. Paredes played 300 more minutes than Ander
Same here, genuinely forgot he was here. Not trying to be mean either, we just haven’t missed what he brought to the team.Forgot about him till i saw the Thread he was solid but dont miss him