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Against a pub teamHe was good.
Against a pub teamHe was good.
Reading some of the comments post match you'd think some had suggested giving him a new 5 year contract and making him Captain.We've gotten into the wrong discussion. The question is not whether he did well against LASK or not (he did ok!).. But do we sell him now, for a bit of money or do we let him go on a free next year - assuming we don't trigger the extension clause.
Is there anyone who's actually suggesting we give Lingard a fresh deal?
Lingard in the last two games was better than Bruno in his last two. Clearly Lingard just needed to sort his mind out first and now the sky is the limit.
Lingard has scored more from open play too in his last two appearances compared to Bruno’s last two!
What by shouting Beans through his window? or noisily dabbing?I feel like people forget just how good he was when he went through that mad run of form of about 9 goals in 2 months (or something), when he’s confident and running at defenders he is excellent!
Ole is making him captain for a reason too, he clearly has leadership credentials and is loved in the team.
He deserves a chance to prove himself, if he carries on like this he will give Bruno a lot of sleepless nights.
If he carries on like this we won't need any new signings. Greenwood won't be the top youngster at the club if we extend Lingards contract.I feel like people forget just how good he was when he went through that mad run of form of about 9 goals in 2 months (or something), when he’s confident and running at defenders he is excellent!
Ole is making him captain for a reason too, he clearly has leadership credentials and is loved in the team.
He deserves a chance to prove himself, if he carries on like this he will give Bruno a lot of sleepless nights.
What’s so controversial?My word.
If he keeps scoring like he has the past two games all would be forgotten. That’s why I said the sky’s the limit.The Sky is the limit for Jesse Lingard? Does that phrase mean something different where you come from than it does where I live?
Jesus he was alright last night a few nice touches. But it was against an awful team in awful form.
If Lingard had put in that performance against LASK last night for any other club. No United fan would be suggesting that United should sign him.
For the level the club is aiming for Lingard has no place at United even as a squad player. He’s just not good enough. And while in top form he’s a decent player his bottom level is atrocious. And he’s been off form more than on the last few years.
It wasn’t decent he was very good against LASK. Also the Leicester goal wasn’t flukey he worked hard to get that chance.My god people are getting carried away. He was decent against Lask (Lask!) and scored a fluky goal against Leicester. Bruno’s worst performances (against real competition) were as good as anything Lingard has offered up recently.
Why? Lingard has played better the last two games. He’s scored more than Bruno for starters.
Go and have a lay down, that's ridiculous.
Don’t be a wind up merchant Greenwood is easily the better academy prospect and no signings?If he carries on like this we won't need any new signings. Greenwood won't be the top youngster at the club if we extend Lingards contract.
No one's falling for it mate.What’s so controversial?
If he keeps scoring like he has the past two games all would be forgotten. That’s why I said the sky’s the limit.
LASK are a good side too and it’s pretty hard for them to be in any kind of form given Coronavirus.
Obviously I wouldn’t sign him he’s already at the club. I just think we’ve got a potentially great player here who has time to develop and mature now he’s sorted his health out.
2 goals in 2 games is good enough for United. The last few years he’s probably been suffering with his mental health but now he’s changed and dealt with it. He could be like a new signing at No10 and give Bruno the threat of a good option behind him.
It wasn’t decent he was very good against LASK. Also the Leicester goal wasn’t flukey he worked hard to get that chance.
Bruno the last few games looked tired and this new improved Lingard was much better. He scored from open play twice! What has Bruno done recently?
Why? Lingard has played better the last two games. He’s scored more than Bruno for starters.
Been a few WUMs on here lately - pretty good some of them.No one's falling for it mate.
If he continues like this and scores in every game he'd hit Messi numbers
He doesn’t need to score every game, just carry on his excellent form.No one's falling for it mate.
If he continues like this and scores in every game he'd hit Messi numbers
Maybe...He doesn’t need to score every game, just carry on his excellent form.
Maybe he will keep scoring and finally become Messi Lingard we have all been waiting for.
Whaat ??He doesn’t need to score every game, just carry on his excellent form.
Maybe he will keep scoring and finally become Messi Lingard we have all been waiting for.
This is true!Whaat ??
Lingard has been much better than Messi. He has scored two and Messi none in the last 20 days.
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Oh thanks for the kind words. You must have been here I guess.This is true!
Btw Da Nang is a brilliant place in the world! Love the marble mountains.
I doubt anyone has forgotten it, but it was 3 years ago, only lasted a few months and it's the only time he did it. So clearly thats not his level.I feel like people forget just how good he was when he went through that mad run of form of about 9 goals in 2 months (or something), when he’s confident and running at defenders he is excellent!
Ole is making him captain for a reason too, he clearly has leadership credentials and is loved in the team.
He deserves a chance to prove himself, if he carries on like this he will give Bruno a lot of sleepless nights.
Ah you are on a wind up, no worries mate carry on.If he keeps scoring like he has the past two games all would be forgotten. That’s why I said the sky’s the limit.
LASK are a good side too and it’s pretty hard for them to be in any kind of form given Coronavirus.
Obviously I wouldn’t sign him he’s already at the club. I just think we’ve got a potentially great player here who has time to develop and mature now he’s sorted his health out.
2 goals in 2 games is good enough for United. The last few years he’s probably been suffering with his mental health but now he’s changed and dealt with it. He could be like a new signing at No10 and give Bruno the threat of a good option behind him.
It wasn’t decent he was very good against LASK. Also the Leicester goal wasn’t flukey he worked hard to get that chance.
Bruno the last few games looked tired and this new improved Lingard was much better. He scored from open play twice! What has Bruno done recently?
Why? Lingard has played better the last two games. He’s scored more than Bruno for starters.
Look we can argue stats all day long, but what he brings you cannot put into a simple pie chart or graph. He is on the up and entering his prime! Now is the time to give him minutes and he will be able to give Bruno the rest he needs (and even a run for his money too).I hope to god Berbasbullet is on a wind-up!
But just for statistical confirmation, Lingard's top level has never been as effective as Bruno through his entire career.
The tweet below from May identifies his expected G+A on a rolling 7 game average and you'll notice the peak there in 2017/18 corresponding to that glorious month of Dec'17 where he scored 3-4 goals over a 7 game period (for the record his xG+A during that time is 0.9)
Leaving aside Bruno, Lingard doesn't compare favorably to Delle Alli.
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His potential level is that of a squad player who can do well enough in "keep it ticking over" scenarios as a sub - and well enough in inconsequential games over the course of a season (as a pure rotation option).So clearly thats not his level.
brilliantI feel like people forget just how good he was when he went through that mad run of form of about 9 goals in 2 months (or something), when he’s confident and running at defenders he is excellent!
Ole is making him captain for a reason too, he clearly has leadership credentials and is loved in the team.
He deserves a chance to prove himself, if he carries on like this he will give Bruno a lot of sleepless nights.
This is the end of the thread. Anyone arguing otherwise is just doing themselves a disservice. The facts are clear over an extremely long period of time.I hope to god Berbasbullet is on a wind-up!
But just for statistical confirmation, Lingard's top level has never been as effective as Bruno through his entire career.
The tweet below from May identifies his expected G+A on a rolling 7 game average and you'll notice the peak there in 2017/18 corresponding to that glorious month of Dec'17 where he scored 3-4 goals over a 7 game period (for the record his xG+A during that time is 0.9)
Leaving aside Bruno, Lingard doesn't compare favorably to Delle Alli.
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Yeah potentially he is a decent option to bring on in games and to play in some cup matches. But if we're honest he hasn't even been performing consistently to that level the last few years.His potential level is that of a squad player who can do well enough in "keep it ticking over" scenarios as a sub - and well enough in inconsequential games over the course of a season (as a pure rotation option).
That's about it.
The question is - obviously - whether we can trust him to be that for us. And also - I guess - whether he has ideas above his station, as it were. If so, he should be moved on immediately, because he clearly isn't a top player, and he will never (ever) become one.
Windup confirmed! Well-played!What’s so controversial?
If he keeps scoring like he has the past two games all would be forgotten. That’s why I said the sky’s the limit.
LASK are a good side too and it’s pretty hard for them to be in any kind of form given Coronavirus.
Obviously I wouldn’t sign him he’s already at the club. I just think we’ve got a potentially great player here who has time to develop and mature now he’s sorted his health out.
2 goals in 2 games is good enough for United. The last few years he’s probably been suffering with his mental health but now he’s changed and dealt with it. He could be like a new signing at No10 and give Bruno the threat of a good option behind him.
It wasn’t decent he was very good against LASK. Also the Leicester goal wasn’t flukey he worked hard to get that chance.
Bruno the last few games looked tired and this new improved Lingard was much better. He scored from open play twice! What has Bruno done recently?
Why? Lingard has played better the last two games. He’s scored more than Bruno for starters.
True. Very true.Yeah potentially he is a decent option to bring on in games and to play in some cup matches. But if we're honest he hasn't even been performing consistently to that level the last few years.
We’re trying to flog him.Interesting that he’s gotten himself ahead of James in the pecking order.
I doubt sub appearances in the Europa is advertising him to anyone new.We’re trying to flog him.
Man, I'm almost teary-eyed here. I always knew he would deliver, all those years of bad luck and negativity affected the boy. Such a bless that our board and Ole had the patience, one of the best squad players that you can have.Another top class cameo! In contention to start in the semi final.