Ekeke
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I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Better start nowAre you suggesting Neville never had to cover his CBs and they never got caught of of position?
I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Better start nowAre you suggesting Neville never had to cover his CBs and they never got caught of of position?
I see you're taking the Lindelof approach to defending.You failed to compel me into action I'm afraid.
He is but I'm not sure why. Rio and Vidic were obviously better defenders so I'm not sure what the point it.Are you suggesting Neville never had to cover his CBs and they never got caught of of position?
Kinda yeah but it's still more on Williams who doesn't pick up his man at the back post.He's kinda guilty on the first goal also... if you're coming up that far out, better block the channel and put the ball out of touch
There probably was an occasion or two but it would be a fairly pointless exercise. Rio and Vidic were obviously better defenders, I'm not sure what your point is really.I see you're taking the Lindelof approach to defending.
This!I think he's good for a club like Leicester or Spurs, but if we want to challenge for the title and go far in the CL, he will always have moments
IMO AWB goes forward and loses the ball, Lindelof moves into the RB position to cover the space but gets beaten. Williams at the back post should be more aware of what's behind him.He's kinda guilty on the first goal also... if you're coming up that far out, better block the channel and put the ball out of touch
He was passed on. Unfortunately Lindelof passed on doing his job
You have no idea whatsoever if he was passed on or not, so you're basically arguing against yourself here.And how the feck do you know he didnt communicate? Were you on the pitch?
It was deflected.No deflection. The only deflection there was from ole trying to make it seem not a thing.
That they would actually try and defend instead of deciding they cant be bothered and leaving it to their fullback to mark the only striker in the box, alone with no help from themThere probably was an occasion or two but it would be a fairly pointless exercise. Rio and Vidic were obviously better defenders, I'm not sure what your point is really.
Lindelof is not on the level of Rio/Vidic though, who is suggesting that? Again I'm not sure why you are arguing this because no one is arguing against that.That they would actually try and defend instead of deciding they cant be bothered and leaving it to their fullback to mark the only striker in the box, alone with no help from them
Didn’t see it in live action, If there was 1 it was the tiniest amount and not enough to change the outcome of the cross.You have no idea whatsoever if he was passed on or not, so you're basically arguing against yourself here.
It was deflected.
I don't get why some people need to invent scenarios out of thin air and twist every single one of Lindelöf's actions on the pitch into a negative when the guy clearly shows time and time again that he isn't good enough all on his own.
I'm not a fan personally. But that in itself is a decent position
Its basic defending. The point is, imagine our previous CBs doing that. They wouldnt. I said they wouldnt and you responded as if it was wrongLindelof is not on the level of Rio/Vidic though, who is suggesting that? Again I'm not sure why you are arguing this because no one is arguing against that.
I've watched it a few times, it loops the ball more. Definitely changes the trajectory.Didn’t see it in live action, If there was 1 it was the tiniest amount and not enough to change the outcome of the cross.
Oh I think all of them was in some way to fault. The degrees in which the blame had been handed out is sorely unbalanced, however.I'm saying it as if we shouldn't have got into that situation in the first place, as you'd like to think we'd observe and learn from that horrendous phase of defending.
You'd also 110% mark the striker if you're a CB and expect AWB is doing the same if he isn't marking their winger. Where would our CBs be shifting across to and why? Is there another striker in the box? Nope, so they shouldn't be shifting away from the only one in our box.
You're saying it's basic defending but are using the examples of two of the best defenders the club has ever had.Its basic defending. The point is, imagine our previous CBs doing that. They wouldnt. I said they wouldnt and you responded as if it was wrong
BaillyOnce again the hate comes out but name an available better option.
We are in Lindelof thread talking about HIS performance. If you want to deviate from that discussion, draw conclusions out of your arse saying that I am happy with the attack when I never said so, then feel free to do so.Nobody said that, but we lost the match not because of mistakes in defence but in the attack. If you are totally happy with the attack tonight,
“you may need to have a word with yourself”.
Way more of a loose cannon.Bailly
Yep and the problem is he’s the best of a bad bunch for that position.I think he's good for a club like Leicester or Spurs, but if we want to challenge for the title and go far in the CL, he will always have moments
Im yet to see evidence of your claim. Better start nowI'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Better start now
Yeah the whole backline got pulled out of positionKinda yeah but it's still more on Williams who doesn't pick up his man at the back post.
I didnt make a claim. I said imagine it. You're the one telling me that something happened, if it happened you can show meIm yet to see evidence of your claim. Better start now
The point is not why we lost the match. People are discussing about the situation of idiotic defending.Are we really comparing Maguire - Lindelöf with Rio and Vidic to prove a point?
Both Lindelöf AND AWB did nothing right in that situation, but still, we should have scored and that has been the biggest issue last games if wedon't count penalties. We are creating much but don't score enough last games. Score 3 and we would be in the finals
I didnt say anything happened. I asked you are you saying it didnt happenI didnt make a claim. I said imagine it. You're the one telling me that something happened, if it happened you can show me
It was actually you who deviated and started to write about how we don’t need Sancho but a new CB. I just replied to that.We are in Lindelof thread talking about HIS performance. If you want to deviate from that discussion, draw conclusions out of your arse saying that I am happy with the attack when I never said so, then feel free to do so.
But our best player while he was on the pitch in the previous game, and sometimes you need a cannon to defend instead of a water pistol with no water in it like LindelofWay more of a loose cannon.
We took him off because he was still diving into tackles on a yellow card.But our best player while he was on the pitch in the previous game, and sometimes you need a cannon to defend instead of a water pistol with no water in it like Lindelof
Lindelof needed a run outWe took him off because he was still diving into tackles on a yellow card.
So let's get it straight, you're completely happy with the way that second goal was conceded innit?]
It was actually you who deviated and started to write about how we don’t need Sancho but a new CB. I just replied to that.
Evans is not on Vidic's level. Sorry that's my opinion. Evans is good and so is Lindelof (just to keep this on topic), but neither are a patch on Rio, Vidic or Stam in terms of being that commanding presence in the box.This is nonsense. Evans played a lot of the games in our record clean sheet run in 08/09. He played more than Vidic when we last won the league in 12/13.
How do you know it wasn't enough if you didn't see it? Go look at the replay, there's one camera angle that looks straight across from the other side of the pitch and it clearly shows that the deflection changed the trajectory of the cross quite a bit making it go much closer to goal than it would have otherwise.Didn’t see it in live action, If there was 1 it was the tiniest amount and not enough to change the outcome of the cross.
This is so true - Bailey can be overzealous at times but I like that he plays with commitment, proper no nonsense defender.But our best player while he was on the pitch in the previous game, and sometimes you need a cannon to defend instead of a water pistol with no water in it like Lindelof
He's also very injury prone and can't be relied upon.This is so true - Bailey can be overzealous at times but I like that he plays with commitment, proper no nonsense defender.
Bailey goes across and gets the ball out of touch by hook or by crook. Lindelof jockeys as always and the player has an easy ball into the space he vacates.He's kinda guilty on the first goal also... if you're coming up that far out, better block the channel and put the ball out of touch