Ye just son of a bitch doesn't sound as offensive as filho da puta which is quite heavy here. Even typing it feels bad, it's not a word i even use!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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You are correct. As a CB thats basic defending and Lindelof didnt want to do it
Lindelof was not standing next to him AWB was, who was supposed to be marking him in that phase of play.
Before the ball even got into that 1-on-1 with Lindelof, I just sighed because I knew the fecking outcome. Lindelof would just zonally cover and do jack shit.
He showed more fight in that spat with Bruno that he has almost his entire career here.
Everybody who watched the Leicester match knows the difference between the two. It’s spelled “Champions league”. One was man of the match and the other cost their team the CL.
Basic defending is not tracking a winger/fullback as a fullback. It doesnt matter if De Jong is next to him, when he expects Lindelöf to take him and he expected him to clear it. He didnt track De Jong until the end, because it wasn't his job to do so in the first place. He trusted his CB to do it, he was fully aware of it and better positioned. Lindelöf only needed to drop back a bit instead of being in no mans land. Lindelöf was far better positioned.
are you being obtuse on purpose? AWB is behind him, Lindelöf infront. Lindelof has nobody infront of him apart from maguire and nobody else in the box.mark the man and he doesn’t score. Why is he letting the striker get between him and AWB in the first place? Get hold of him and take charge.
no matter what you say you cannot swing this
lindelof has cost us get again.I'm saying it as if we shouldn't have got into that situation in the first place, as you'd like to think we'd observe and learn from that horrendous phase of defending.
You'd also 110% mark the striker if you're a CB and expect AWB is doing the same if he isn't marking their winger. Where would our CBs be shifting across to and why? Is there another striker in the box? Nope, so they shouldn't be shifting away from the only one in our box.
Eh.....the forward is goal side of AWB, rightly so. Lindelof needed to drop in five yards, he’s absolutely shocking at defending these situations.
He's cost us so many times out of pure cowardice and still has defenders. It beggars belief.
Its basic defending for any defender. Lindelöf didnt mark his man he is at fault for that. AWB had his man and let him just walk off in the box thats criminal. Im sorry but its unaaceptable to do that. Maguire and Lindelof positioning was off in that case AWB should have covered.
I would happily sell everyone in the back 5 including the keeper
Yep, sign of a guilty man that was! I have no doubts ole will be giving him the hair dryer.
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Why should he expect Lindelof to take a player right next to him in that situation when a cross is about to come in? You are making excuses for AWB it was terrible defending from him period.
He didnt just let him walk off, he saw that Lindelof was a CB in the middle of his own box and Lindelof looked twice at the player so he was completely aware of him. Its absolutely basic defending to pass a striker on to the CB because thats their job.
Anyone who doesn't see this as a shit show from both Lindelöf and AWB need their head checking
Because he's a CB and its his job to defend the box from a striker, especially when its the only player in there
If that isnt his job description then what is it?
100% this. As a FB myself I would be embarrassed to let any player run off my shoulder like that. AWB simply switched off imo.
When the striker is behind the CB and you have no other player around you. Im afraid no he made a mistake. You dont leave the player until he has actually been passed on
mark the man and he doesn’t score. Why is he letting the striker get between him and AWB in the first place? Get hold of him and take charge.
no matter what you say you cannot swing this
AWB is flat-footed and lets him go.
Because he’s the centre back marking the fecking striker. How hard is that to understand?
If de Jong hung at the back post then yes you’d expect AWB to deal with it, but it was slap bang in the centre of the goal.
In football you dont expect you communicate. Ive played in defence you dont expectBecause he's a CB and its his job to defend the box from a striker, especially when its the only player in there
If that isnt his job description then what is it?
He was passed on. Unfortunately Lindelof passed on doing his job
And how the feck do you know he didnt communicate? Were you on the pitch?
Yes he should just expect Lindelof to take him and so he allowed to go to sleep from here. Sure
He wasnt
Any other cb deals with that. This happens too often with Lindelof to make excuses.
So you are just assuming he did... right
Yeah.
For defenders the key is to assume the worst case scenario and act accordingly.
The CAF laughs at David Luiz because he often sacrifices his position and gets done by through balls. However, he does that because he assumes Arsenal will win the ball and he wants to be on the front foot for the turnover. It's the wrong mentality for a defender.
For an attacker you want them to assume everything will go well. You want them to be on the run if the pass makes it, or coming near post if the cross beats the man. You don't want them stood still assuming the ball wouldn't come.
Defenders have to do the opposite: they have to assume everything will go wrong. We won't stop the cross, the guy behind me will beat his marker, I have to deal with this or else they will score.
Our defenders too often don't behave like that. They don't act like they realise the danger around them and that they have got to do something about it. Lindelof is the worst offender for this too.
Any other RB cuts out the cross
Probably fair to say his biggest 'failing' is just not being up to the job. There's always a mistake in him in high stakes games and you're more surprised when it doesn't happen than when it does, which is not good when thinking of a team with aspirations of playing top-end CL games and progressing to PL challengers over the next few league campaigns.
I'd sell him and keep Smalling as the bench option in an ideal world with a top class CB taking the starting spot.
I'd sell him and keep Smalling as the bench option in an ideal world with a top class CB taking the starting spot.
Its majorly Lindelof's fault. I would say 80 20
From behind? while keeping the offside trap? big ask.
Proving my own point. Nobody else in the box and he’s defending thin air.
AWB is flat-footed and lets him go.
what else do you expect him to be doing if not marking his direct opponent? it’s insane the excuses you make for him.
A centre back should never be letting a fullback do the job for him.
Its not a tough ask to get infront of the player
Definitely not intentional.
Major fuxk up by lindelof and awb.
Horrible
Horrible
Its happens in games its called covering. They are both at fault
Because as the cross comes in AWB clearly is tracking De Jong but lets him go.
I have been saying it for a while we need 2 CBs. Bailly needs to be sold, Lindelof demoted to second choice and then we also need a left footed defender. Get Upamecano and Badiashile both ( ideally Upamecano and Torres)
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