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dev1l said:
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As much as I like him as a professional and respect him as a player, woul dbe happy for this. Was never really the right signing for us, especially the price at the time. Given us good service and been a modern professional, sure he will be missed in the dressing room, but not on the pitch much anymore. COntract he was given was madness, should have left last summer like quite a few still here..

Not a transfer that helps us with our finances for buying new players though
 
Feed Me said:
It was always likely to happen. Having a terrible transfer window is par for the course really.
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Annoying thing is, I can see the London clubs having a better window than most, and City have already made steady inroads. I fear our top 4 finish will end up being a case of 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
 
Who would want Mata? Not many can afford his wages. Bet we will not get a transfer fee and will have to pay half of his wages to get him off our books to play for someone else
 
Sultan said:
Valencia was a better footballer and a right-back. Unfortunately, age and injuries got the better of him in the latter part of his United career. Williams is nowhere near ready to be regular back-up to Shaw. Rashford has been severely affected since Shaw's injury.

I would confidently say if United had comparable players to VvD, Robertson and Trent Alexander we would have a better Eleven than Liverpool. I don't even think we'd need to sign Sancho on the right. It's the weakness of AWB that is highlighting our desperation for a creative force on the right. AVB needs to learn his timing of runs and focus on positional play. However good he is at last-ditch tackles they are basically giving away throw-ins and corners in dangerous positions and gives the opposition time to regroup.
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I’m sorry @Sultan but I don’t agree.
I think everyone who is criticizing AWB is not being fair at the moment. He’s already put up more assists this season than Pogba and Shaw. Already more than he managed at Palace. If you look at him at the beginning of the season and now you can definitely see the progression in his play. For example in the Sevilla match he did a lovely little bit of skill around the halfway line to get away from his man. He’s getting better/more confident.

On the opposite side there’s an abundance of players that pull to the left, affording Shaw/Williams to overlap. Yet they aren’t posting assists like AWB. So why is the attention on him?

The side has been lopsided for a while, we need a RW. And when we do, AWB will continue to grow more in his offensive game.

Lastly, TAA and Robertson are highly effective because the midfield aren’t great going forward, they spend a lot of their time facilitating the fullbacks going forward. We don’t play like that. We play Pogba and Bruno in midfield which means our fullback have to be more defensive. This is why we need a creative RW
 
SATA said:
Who would want Mata? Not many can afford his wages. Bet we will not get a transfer fee and will have to pay half of his wages to get him off our books to play for someone else
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exactly, worth just keeping him around for another year then letting him leave for nothing. Sure he can feature in some capacity
 
mazhar13 said:
Sorloth is one step closer to signing for Leipzig.


I still don't get why they'd get another big man to play up front. Does he play any differently to Poulsen?
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Poulsen is more a supporting player. An outlet for long balls, hard working, but someone who opens up space for others rather than the guy who gets to be at the end of moves. Nagelsmann also seems to really enjoy having multiple strikers to choose from. Even at Hoffenheim (between Kramaric, the legendary Joelinton, Szalai, Wagner, Belfodil and Uth) he always had 3-4 strikers at his disposal, despite the club's rather limited means.
True to form Leipzig loaned Schick from Roma last season, despite already having a trusted partnership upfront in Werner and Poulsen.

They were heavily linked to Bremen's Rashica, who I could see doing well as a like for like replacement of Werner, however since Bremen actually managed to avoid relegation after all this seems to have cooled off significantly. Making Schick's loan permanent doesn't seem to be possible either, despite him playing quite well, taking Poulsen's spot.

I guess Red Bull's marketing budget is affected by corona as well and so it seem like they are forced to get creative.
 
dev1l said:
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I’d actually be quite sad if Mata left, his footballing days are probably passing him by now but I could definitely see him in some sort of coaching capacity, seems a really nice, grounded guy who could help a lot of players coming through.
 
Feed Me said:
It was always likely to happen. Having a terrible transfer window is par for the course really.
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Well my concern is this season so much has the echos of Mourinhos first season here. What appeared excellent transfer buys in his first window, actually playing some good football, high finish in the premiership and Europa league, all looking promising for the future though there was still a lot of deadwood, we really needed another cb, fb, dm, cf and wingers.

To be fair we went and spent a lot of money to strengthen the following summer to strengthen, so I hope this summer still follows suit. But I thought at the time then it was still a poor window. We got linked with lots of exciting players and then went and bought Lindelof (looked bang average at Benfica), Matic (decent signing, but there were lots of dm at the time we were linked with more exciting to me), Sanchez (ironically the one I was excited about) and Lukaku (such a Mourinho signing and never a United player, always gets goals but never been a fan, thought poor signing at the time, especially with the fee).

SHows that was a poor window when two of thos players are now gone already and now we really need a replacement in the first eleven for one of the others and competition/replacement for the other. ALso shows how right SOlkjears sentiment after Sevilla of wanting quality players not marquee signings as such is true.

ALthough a terrible transfer window for me is par for the coruse in terms of the number of ins/outs never being enough, we have spent a lot of money every season. The jury is still out on the last one gone as Fernandes/Maguire/James/Bissaka...that was a further £200m odd spent lets not forget. Bar James all good signings for me, though over spent by £50m for the £200m we probably should have got better players in . Mourinhos first with Pogba/Miki/Ibra/Bailly looked great at the time but hasnt really worked out beyond the actual season it happened.

For me, this summer hell even if we signed Messi or Sancho, if we dont make at LEAST three signings, its a poor window and whether the signings work out for us or not, if they are not quality, talented players we have also done very poorly as there are so many good players we can target this summer for virtually every problem position bar possibly right wing outside of Sancho, DM especially and I bet we dont even sign one
 
jesperjaap said:
Well my concern is this season so much has the echos of Mourinhos first season here. What appeared excellent transfer buys in his first window, actually playing some good football, high finish in the premiership and Europa league, all looking promising for the future though there was still a lot of deadwood, we really needed another cb, fb, dm, cf and wingers.

To be fair we went and spent a lot of money to strengthen the following summer to strengthen, so I hope this summer still follows suit. But I thought at the time then it was still a poor window. We got linked with lots of exciting players and then went and bought Lindelof (looked bang average at Benfica), Matic (decent signing, but there were lots of dm at the time we were linked with more exciting to me), Sanchez (ironically the one I was excited about) and Lukaku (such a Mourinho signing and never a United player, always gets goals but never been a fan, thought poor signing at the time, especially with the fee).

SHows that was a poor window when two of thos players are now gone already and now we really need a replacement in the first eleven for one of the others and competition/replacement for the other. ALso shows how right SOlkjears sentiment after Sevilla of wanting quality players not marquee signings as such is true.

ALthough a terrible transfer window for me is par for the coruse in terms of the number of ins/outs never being enough, we have spent a lot of money every season. The jury is still out on the last one gone as Fernandes/Maguire/James/Bissaka...that was a further £200m odd spent lets not forget. Bar James all good signings for me, though over spent by £50m for the £200m we probably should have got better players in . Mourinhos first with Pogba/Miki/Ibra/Bailly looked great at the time but hasnt really worked out beyond the actual season it happened.

For me, this summer hell even if we signed Messi or Sancho, if we dont make at LEAST three signings, its a poor window and whether the signings work out for us or not, if they are not quality, talented players we have also done very poorly as there are so many good players we can target this summer for virtually every problem position bar possibly right wing outside of Sancho, DM especially and I bet we dont even sign one
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You can add to this that Ole's choice of words after Sevilla aren't exactly ones that inspire confidence on us going into the market.
 
jesperjaap said:
Well my concern is this season so much has the echos of Mourinhos first season here. What appeared excellent transfer buys in his first window, actually playing some good football, high finish in the premiership and Europa league, all looking promising for the future though there was still a lot of deadwood, we really needed another cb, fb, dm, cf and wingers.
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We finished 6th in the league in Jose's first year. How is that 'high' ?
 
golden_blunder said:
I’m sorry @Sultan but I don’t agree.
I think everyone who is criticizing AWB is not being fair at the moment. He’s already put up more assists this season than Pogba and Shaw. Already more than he managed at Palace. If you look at him at the beginning of the season and now you can definitely see the progression in his play. For example in the Sevilla match he did a lovely little bit of skill around the halfway line to get away from his man. He’s getting better/more confident.

On the opposite side there’s an abundance of players that pull to the left, affording Shaw/Williams to overlap. Yet they aren’t posting assists like AWB. So why is the attention on him?

The side has been lopsided for a while, we need a RW. And when we do, AWB will continue to grow more in his offensive game.

Lastly, TAA and Robertson are highly effective because the midfield aren’t great going forward, they spend a lot of their time facilitating the fullbacks going forward. We don’t play like that. We play Pogba and Bruno in midfield which means our fullback have to be more defensive. This is why we need a creative RW
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Good post. Fully agree.
 
dev1l said:
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I just don't see that happening tbh. Lingard has changed his agents and wil certainly be looking for a move. AP is clearly out of favour and is itching for a move away. We've loaned out Chong, Gomes has been released, James has been very inconsistent, Ighalo's loan ends in Jan and we aren't having any other player coming through the ranks.
With the lack of depth in not just quality but also quantity, we'd need to sign 3-4 forwards to just make up the numbers.if we sell all three of them, and I doubt we'll go full FM
 
golden_blunder said:
I’m sorry @Sultan but I don’t agree.
I think everyone who is criticizing AWB is not being fair at the moment. He’s already put up more assists this season than Pogba and Shaw. Already more than he managed at Palace. If you look at him at the beginning of the season and now you can definitely see the progression in his play. For example in the Sevilla match he did a lovely little bit of skill around the halfway line to get away from his man. He’s getting better/more confident.

On the opposite side there’s an abundance of players that pull to the left, affording Shaw/Williams to overlap. Yet they aren’t posting assists like AWB. So why is the attention on him?

The side has been lopsided for a while, we need a RW. And when we do, AWB will continue to grow more in his offensive game.

Lastly, TAA and Robertson are highly effective because the midfield aren’t great going forward, they spend a lot of their time facilitating the fullbacks going forward. We don’t play like that. We play Pogba and Bruno in midfield which means our fullback have to be more defensive. This is why we need a creative RW
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Agreed. When Greenwood started coming into the team AWB really kicked on in an attacking sense. You could see earlier in the season AWB wanted to overlap but James was hugging the touchline and there was no space. Once Greenwood started and was coming in from the line AWB improved massively. He's had a poor run of form to end the season, but then again a lot of our players have since the Southampton game. He just strikes me as a easy target for people on here because he's not TAA.
 
NJM78 said:
The right offer...guess he is staying then.

A big wages, way past it player is not going to have many suitors offering an adequate transfer fee.
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I’d doubt we’re looking for any money when he’s on 120k a week.
 
NJM78 said:
The right offer...guess he is staying then.

A big wages, way past it player is not going to have many suitors offering an adequate transfer fee.
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He may just want to return home though?

He'd be an asset to a mid table side looking to bring young players through
 
Fracture90 said:
At this point, a sack of potatoes would be a valid return for him.
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With all due respect I think that s a bit disrespectful for him.
Ok he s past it, but he s one of the few gentlemen out there in a world full of greedy agents/directors and immature players.
 
Thiago obviously has his heart set on Anfield, otherwise it's mind boggling that they have this one to themselves. 30 million? A Lindelof? A Bailly? A Schneiderlin?
 
What is that in GBP, like only £27m? Would definitely be depth..
 
He probably wouldn't be interested, but he would be great value at that price, so add quality and depth.
 
with Thiago it is true indication of where the Transfer Market is heading. Liverpool not wanting to spend 30 million and nobody else Jumping in for one of the best midfielders in the world , Now Thiago may only be willing to go to Liverpool but I honestly see the market becoming More like this as the Pandemic casts such uncertainty and clubs will need to Re-adjust to Survive.
 
Thiago would come in and immediately be our best midfielder. He has all the skill of Pogba and is better suited to playing deeper. Shame it appears that all he wants is Liverpool.
 
Still ill said:
Thiago obviously has his heart set on Anfield, otherwise it's mind boggling that they have this one to themselves. 30 million? A Lindelof? A Bailly? A Schneiderlin?
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Bayern know he'll command high wages, and considering his age + injury record, I think 30m is right. Also in the last year of his contract I believe.

Woodenlung said:
Thiago would come in and immediately be our best midfielder. He has all the skill of Pogba and is better suited to playing deeper. Shame it appears that all he wants is Liverpool.
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Thank Moyes.
 
Nick7 said:
Agreed. When Greenwood started coming into the team AWB really kicked on in an attacking sense. You could see earlier in the season AWB wanted to overlap but James was hugging the touchline and there was no space. Once Greenwood started and was coming in from the line AWB improved massively. He's had a poor run of form to end the season, but then again a lot of our players have since the Southampton game. He just strikes me as a easy target for people on here because he's not TAA.
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Agree that he’s been inconsistent since the return but he’s a young player in his first season. He should be afforded time and patience.
 
Removing Alexis Sanchez from the wage bill was a start but if Solskjaer is to land three signings - and that is the most optimistic forecast - United will have to shift the deadwood and free up space on the wage bill in order to swell his kitty. And, unfortunately, the wheels tend to turn very slowly. The pursuit of Sancho is proving complicated and United need to sell centre-halves before they can buy another. Beefing up the midfield may yet have to wait and then there is the conundrum in the goalkeeping department. It is a critical transfer window.
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We are slow in shifting and buying players. Nothing changes though. Has nobody at the club thought about how we can speed up the process in the last 7 years or do we sit around and are happy with this bullshit every summer.
 
izec said:
We are slow in shifting and buying players. Nothing changes though. Has nobody at the club thought about how we can speed up the process in the last 7 years or do we sit around and are happy with this bullshit every summer.
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I think the process to shift players is so cumbersome that we end up handing out new contracts to the Deadwood rather than trying to replace them
 
golden_blunder said:
I’m sorry @Sultan but I don’t agree.
I think everyone who is criticizing AWB is not being fair at the moment. He’s already put up more assists this season than Pogba and Shaw. Already more than he managed at Palace. If you look at him at the beginning of the season and now you can definitely see the progression in his play. For example in the Sevilla match he did a lovely little bit of skill around the halfway line to get away from his man. He’s getting better/more confident.

On the opposite side there’s an abundance of players that pull to the left, affording Shaw/Williams to overlap. Yet they aren’t posting assists like AWB. So why is the attention on him?

The side has been lopsided for a while, we need a RW. And when we do, AWB will continue to grow more in his offensive game.

Lastly, TAA and Robertson are highly effective because the midfield aren’t great going forward, they spend a lot of their time facilitating the fullbacks going forward. We don’t play like that. We play Pogba and Bruno in midfield which means our fullback have to be more defensive. This is why we need a creative RW
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Very well put, Geebs. A very different perspective on the norm. Yes, Liverpool's midfield is pretty boring and most of their assists come from the flanks. I would think a lot of AWB's criticism comes from his style more than substance.
 
kirk buttercup said:
with Thiago it is true indication of where the Transfer Market is heading. Liverpool not wanting to spend 30 million and nobody else Jumping in for one of the best midfielders in the world , Now Thiago may only be willing to go to Liverpool but I honestly see the market becoming More like this as the Pandemic casts such uncertainty and clubs will need to Re-adjust to Survive.
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We don’t know what his wage demands are though. He could be asking for £300k-£400k a week for all we know. That would equate to about £80 million over a four year period. A huge sum to consider in uncertain times.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
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Only three signings isn’t enough again if we actually truly want to compete. We need better depth, and we need some better starters.

I know this has been our MO for the last 3 seasons or so — about £90-150m spent with about 3/4 players in — but we really do need a little bit more than that. We are the closest we’ve been in a while, probably the closest we’ve been post SAF, but we really need to take advantage of that. Especially when it looks like Liverpool are brassic and City are a bit iffy (though we all expect them to spunk money for fun soon). We can’t let Chelsea close the gap in a better way than we do.
 
golden_blunder said:
I’m sorry @Sultan but I don’t agree.
I think everyone who is criticizing AWB is not being fair at the moment. He’s already put up more assists this season than Pogba and Shaw. Already more than he managed at Palace. If you look at him at the beginning of the season and now you can definitely see the progression in his play. For example in the Sevilla match he did a lovely little bit of skill around the halfway line to get away from his man. He’s getting better/more confident.

On the opposite side there’s an abundance of players that pull to the left, affording Shaw/Williams to overlap. Yet they aren’t posting assists like AWB. So why is the attention on him?

The side has been lopsided for a while, we need a RW. And when we do, AWB will continue to grow more in his offensive game.

Lastly, TAA and Robertson are highly effective because the midfield aren’t great going forward, they spend a lot of their time facilitating the fullbacks going forward. We don’t play like that. We play Pogba and Bruno in midfield which means our fullback have to be more defensive. This is why we need a creative RW
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Nicely put.
There was a period during the season when he was very good going forward then went back to old self.
Imo with my limited experience in seeing players learning new things, I think that tiredness during the latter part of the season contributed to him losing confidence going forward.

Also, it seems that the our coaching staff prefer fullbacks who are primarily good defenders, unlike Liverpool whose fullbacks are playmakers.
Seems that our fullbacks are expected to be better at one to one situation whereas Liverpool fullbacks are covered by the three central midfielders.
Anyway, that s my opinion :)
 
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