He seems like a young,confident experienced technically sound all-round player who has a crisp short passing game and great awareness,which looks to be his strongest attribute. Wants not to like ?
Donny van de Beek | van de Beek's father: "[Moving to United] a dream come true."
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I'd prefer Grealish and even signings in other positions first, yet Van de Beek is a player i like so won't complain at that price.
At around £40m I’d say we should do it. I think he’ll be a good signing. Villa can go spin if they £80m for Grealish. I‘d rather take the £40m difference and put it towards getting Sancho over the line, and a whole new player.
Its mental how a 25 year old whose never played in Europe, never played internationally and has more appearances playing in the second tier than the top tier is worth £80m but whatever...
And like some have already pointed out...if he’s being omitted from a match day squad then he’s pretty close to moving.
Its mental how a 25 year old whose never played in Europe, never played internationally and has more appearances playing in the second tier than the top tier is worth £80m but whatever...
And like some have already pointed out...if he’s being omitted from a match day squad then he’s pretty close to moving.
I imagine we could get updates pretty soon. A player doesn't get omitted if things aren't gathering pace
He's also 23 years old, a midfield of Pogba (27), Bruno (25, 26 next month), Fred (27), Van de Beek (23) means several years at their peak, midfielders can go well into their 30s if they keep fit.
The midfield is nearly sorted for years, just Matic needs a replacement in future, Fred is a good rotation to play especially with competent players.
Honestly with Grealish + Sancho the squad is in a very good position, at that point it's just competition for players, a CB and it is a great great squad, Solskjaer if he gets those players will have done what other managers have failed to do post SAF.
Bruno - Pogba - Matic is clearly our first choice. I'm assuming VDB - Fred - McT are meant to be our quality depth options for each of them respectively. Which is great because all 'backups' are good enough to warrant a starting spot when on form.
Also, this means the end of Lingard, Mata, Pereira who are clearly not good enough to be even squad options.
Also, this means the end of Lingard, Mata, Pereira who are clearly not good enough to be even squad options.
That's the Nicky Butt song.
I was thinking it would suit Donny here so interesting they already used it for him.
They're still here though.
Seems to me we’re setting up the deal should we fail to get a breakthrough with Grealish. I dont think this will happen.
Just think of it this way. We are replacing all of lingard, Andreas and mata with one signing, in terms of quality, price and wages.
United definitely changed their approach in transfer dealings and prefer to keep things "in the house" as much as possible comparing to some deals before. Also, we were linked to him since January.
I want him for that chant
Let’s not use this to jump on Pogba like every other thread, I bet you right now that Pogba will get better numbers in a more reserved role.
He’s a level above so let’s not kid ourselves that we are upgrading Paul feckin Pogba here.
Yeah that’s my point. The fact he can’t play DM means he’s a bench option.
For people that have seen him regularly, is he better than Fred? I started the thread about selling Pogba because I felt that he didn't fit the role we want him to play, which is where I think VDB does play. Maybe the club feel the same.
I don't get the feeling that this is the level of player I was hoping for though. We need somebody that can orchestrate the whole team/midfield like Scholes used to. I feel like this guy is more Fred/Herrera level. Works hard, decent, tidy player but not got the authority to be the main man in there for us.
I don't get the feeling that this is the level of player I was hoping for though. We need somebody that can orchestrate the whole team/midfield like Scholes used to. I feel like this guy is more Fred/Herrera level. Works hard, decent, tidy player but not got the authority to be the main man in there for us.
The main men are Pogba and Bruno though, the only player available now that could be that man is Thiago and he will end up at Liverpool.
This boy will definitely strength United starting XI, special RW starter option.
Most of the time he knows when to dribble and when to pass the ball.
Skill with the ball over average and really high. It mean good ball control in high speed.
23 and ideal age. So both short and long term solution.
Conclusion : If i am United manager. I will definitely be satisfy to have him in my team. So i vote for yes to buy him. Thumb up.
Both him and Sancho this summer will be ideal. If not Beek this summer and Sancho next summer. Go into a negotiation with Beek in the team already. Then United will be lesser desperate after Sancho next summer. Something to falling back. Without Beek and go into Sancho negotiation is big different. The need of Sancho is bigger without De Beek in the team in others words.
And you never know. A new upcoming big talent will rise appear next summer. Players are like fruits. They comes and goes. Rise , exist temporarily and fallen.
Most of the time he knows when to dribble and when to pass the ball.
Skill with the ball over average and really high. It mean good ball control in high speed.
23 and ideal age. So both short and long term solution.
Conclusion : If i am United manager. I will definitely be satisfy to have him in my team. So i vote for yes to buy him. Thumb up.
Both him and Sancho this summer will be ideal. If not Beek this summer and Sancho next summer. Go into a negotiation with Beek in the team already. Then United will be lesser desperate after Sancho next summer. Something to falling back. Without Beek and go into Sancho negotiation is big different. The need of Sancho is bigger without De Beek in the team in others words.
And you never know. A new upcoming big talent will rise appear next summer. Players are like fruits. They comes and goes. Rise , exist temporarily and fallen.
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Will probably be 20 years before we get that player again.
VDB seems a decent rotation option, above average player to rotate Bruno and Pogba. Depth signing.
If your looking for an improvement in the starting 11 see the Sancho thread. That’s the only player we are linked with that actually improves our starting 11 when all fit.
It's interesting because a lot of the Dutch followers have given outstanding praise to him, I wonder why you think he fails to improve our XI tooWill probably be 20 years before we get that player again.
VDB seems a decent rotation option, above average player to rotate Bruno and Pogba. Depth signing.
If your looking for an improvement in the starting 11 see the Sancho thread. That’s the only player we are linked with that actually improves our starting 11 when all fit.
Grealish can play CAM and on the left. At a push he can drop back, he really can’t play on the right. VdB can cover Bruno or Pogba.
Neither Grealish or Sancho would be in place of Sancho. Sancho is a whole different transfer and going for VdB means we won’t be going for Grealish.
I think it's more like €40m. £36m. I prefer him to Grealish.
The signing doesn't make that much sense unless we think he can be a number 6.
Then again I'm not convinced Pogba really wants to stay so there is planning for that. It also gives the option of using Bruno towards the right with Van de Beek at 10.
Then again I'm not convinced Pogba really wants to stay so there is planning for that. It also gives the option of using Bruno towards the right with Van de Beek at 10.
We have Paul and Bruno? Unless you think a DM can run the modern game I cant think of a player that would satisfy you to he honest
Tend to trust the people who watch him regularly, and they're full of praise for him.
It's a no brainer signing, and if anything too smart for our usual activity over the last 5 or so years.
Love it when we are “monitoring the situation“. Nothing escapes our watchful eye.
Yes I'm particularly interested in relative performances of him and Ziyech this season. Different positions but I think Ziyech had higher praise, hoping Donny can join us and be more consistent.
We fecked ourselves over with the Maguire transfer. If he was worth 80m up front... no wonder Villa are demanding something similar.
Andreas started twenty five games last season and came on in seven. Lingard started twenty two games and come on in thirteen. Now ask yourself what if it was Van De Beek making these appearances. Good signing.
I agree with the general point, have to keep in mind that those matches you talked about already partially fall to Bruno. Would have to look at the statistics after his arrival.
So much this. He’ll be great in our team.
Yup, seems a lot of the Dutch football followers think he’s a very good player. I haven’t seen much of him but from what I have seen, I think he would be an excellent addition to the squad.
I don’t see why people say it doesn’t make sense unless he plays as a 6. I don’t know enough about him but he is high praised, instrumental for Ajax, 23 and quite cheap. We are also in great need of depth everywhere on the pitch
I don’t really understand this transfer unless we’re also filling the positions that are higher priority, like CB, Full Backs, DCM, RW
Spurs selling Ndombele, wouldnt rule them out
This.
But then we have to look at how gassed Bruno was towards the end of the season and how many games he would have been rested. Also if what people say about VdB’s ability to play a bit further back is to be believed then he can also come in for Pogba. With the amount of games we can play and rotation we actually need to do, you could see him starting 30-40 games whilst being second choice.
He will pick us over spurs.
I would rule them out if we are in for him. No way he chooses Europa league football and Jose Mourinho as manager
He must be about to sign for someone. You don't leave players out of friendlies unless a deal is very close.
It's not hard to understand. Van De Beek starts if Bruno or Pogba are not playing or starting. If either Pogba or Bruno get injured, the back ups are pretty dire.
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