Also subs for either Pogba or Bruno in the last 25 minutes when they're playing 2 matches per week; which is most weeks.
Donny van de Beek | van de Beek's father: "[Moving to United] a dream come true."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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If being the key word
If we do end up signing him, I think my favourite bit will be the quietness with which it's been done, not a word for weeks, suddenly he's left out of a friendly
Means we are doing business quietly and professionally
The only thing Spurs are getting is Jose meltdown.
Good old Inter Milan to the rescue dont rule it out. I dont think Van De Beek is our first choice
Assuming we move Lingard and Periera on, beginning the new season with Pogba, Bruno, Matic, Fred, Mctominay and VDB as our midfield options is promising indeed.
It's been years since we had such a competitive midfield.
It's been years since we had such a competitive midfield.
Not saying it's the right approach, but Ole doesn't seem to want a new Matic type player.
Think we will buy him. Rumors from January, sudden new links (pretty reliable on Dutch side), fits what Ole is looking from a player in terms of mentality, versatile and a very good price quoted.
Now, whether he is/was our first choice for midfield is really hard to say.
At least now, if spurs rival us for any player they don't have CL football to use in their favour. They also have the most miserable man in football as their manager which won't appeal to quite a lot of modern players IMO
He's 23 so it makes sense, he would develop with Bruno and Pogba. He's composed, has good vision and technique, good player but I'm honestly not sure of his ceiling, Herrera was also a good tidy player I have some reservations but obviously he's an upgrade on depth at the very least.
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Imagine being able to field Pogba, Bruno and Matic on the weekend and then Vdb, Fred and McT against some shit team during the week.
It’s the MEN so expect him to be confirmed tomorrow based on that.
Herrera did come to my mind immediately when I think of him. Obviously, de Beek has more goalscoring potential, but there are quite a few similarities.
Do agree, he would, at the very least, be serious upgrade on our depth with some questions about his ceiling. Think he is the kind of player who is also pretty dependent on how the whole team functions around him. At this price, I think he is worth a punt.
To be clear I’m not saying we shouldn’t get him, just pointing out that he doesn’t really get into our starting 11.
He’s not a CDM so doesn’t challenge Matic, which is the most pressing midfield issue we have, and he’s not better then either Pogba or Bruno for their positions.
So whilst I want him for depth I can’t see him having a particularly big impact for us other than for rotation for those two players, which is enough of a reason for me to back the move so long as we don’t leave ourselves short for Sancho.
Basically confirmation he's signing then
Their source is likely Steve from accounting whose grandad was half Dutch.
I think folks should keep in mind that all of Anderson (didn't work out so well), Carrick and Herrera played much further forward for their previous clubs before signing for United. The fact he plays as a 8/10 now doesn't mean that will be his position at United. Hell even Scholes started further forward at 8/10 and moved further back to 6 during his career. The question is whether he has the skills to play in midfield in terms of passing, ball retention and so on.
Maybe the club have simply identified he is a well rounded player that could cover several positions in midfield. Just because he is coming here doesn't mean he has to play in Bruno or Pogba's position. The important thing is that we have depth in order to compete.
Maybe the club have simply identified he is a well rounded player that could cover several positions in midfield. Just because he is coming here doesn't mean he has to play in Bruno or Pogba's position. The important thing is that we have depth in order to compete.
That he’s been poor at LW and RW for the most part this season, and would never work at striker in the cut and thrust of the Premier League. Therefore, I can only think of one more position which he can feasibly play in (see Young and Valencia). If he fails, then it’s time to leave as two seasons is more than enough time to adapt.
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why is there always a question of where would the player fit? Do people not watch a full season of football Pogba hardly featured before Covid and him and bruno looked completely shattered by the end of the season . We need depth and we need to rotate this one is a no brainer for me . He is a very good footballer who would play alot at United .
Not many on this forum understand this. Maybe it's the whole video game culture where you can always play your best players without them tiring.
He’s off quite clearly.
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It’s the most frustrating thing about this place. Every time we’re linked to someone the terms guaranteed starter and why would they join will be said within 6 posts. Can we have a sticky at the top of every page listing our 2008 squad? Half of the people on here would have seizures.
The small amount I've seen he's reminded me of Ramsey, good off the ball and linkup play but not particularly creative or authoritative, a higher class Lingard I suppose, would that be a fair summary?
Would rephrase that and say squad option. No way Pogba and Bruno play every game. Games will be shared out
On the verge of joining united, but just in case this rumour is pure rubbish we will cover our own back.
If there's one photo that illustrates Ajax's technical individual training methods it this one.
Yes my thoughts exactly. I would have said a much better Lingard but the Ramsey comparison is very accurate.
In other words, we know feck all.
Some Ajax fans were speculating the deal is done but can't be confirmed until Monday when trading starts.
Where's the white text.
I would prefer something centred around Dawson's Creek, but hey, to each their own.
I'll be cautiously optimistic til we see him in the shirt.
We've been here before with loads of reports of a deal nearly done only for the whole thing to fizzle out.
I see him more as competition than a squad option. Will put more pressure on Pogba to perform.
He’s on the verge but maybe he isn’t? Jesus.
I think if people are looking for a comparison he's in that Lampard mould positionally of using good movement in pockets of spaces to advance the attacking midfield. He doesn't strike me as having the technical prowess of say a Grealish who is very good at running with the ball in close quarters. Also doesn't strike me as a fantastic passer of the ball having seen a KDB comparison in the thread. I think his profile as a player is more Dele Alli than anything.
Bearing in mind Pogba has made like 27, 35 and 16 Premier league appearances in the past 3 years, this signing makes a lot of sense
Imo what they mean is he's on the verge of leaving Ajax. With United being the most likely destination but not 100 ℅.
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