Possibly an indication we have moved on from Sancho? I know the positions have nothing to do with it but monetary wise.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I rather have upamecano and VDB instead of Sancho. Sancho can come next year
Doubt this news is true but even if it is you’d assume the cost would be less than the 60m release clause he was available for 2 months ago. The VDB fee and this fee can be covered by the 8 outgoings we’re hoping to get meaning our net is the Sancho fee. We were always wanting to sign Sancho and 2/3 others.
Don't think Sancho was ever going to be our only signing. Our reluctance to meet Dortmund's valuation is likely tethered in us trying/wanting to complete other deals. Saying that to say that I don't think bagging VdB and the reported interest on Upamecano means we've moved on from Sancho. Likely still trying to arrange some sort of deal that allows us to complete the Sancho transfer as well as bolster the squad elsewhere. Sancho was widely reported as the manager's number one target. Don't think we'd move on without some sort of media brief
Mark Ogden? uh,not that moaner.
Not really, most of the things like VDB could mean Lingard, Mata, and Pereira are on their way out.
Some players going out on loan could have their wages covered by the clubs loaning meaning the wage-book is a little lighter.
Upamecano could be done in such a way that the transfer isn't too heavy on finances, it's nice to see that United are starting to pull the trigger on some targets.
Could be a very good window if all the targets are identified and deadwood is cleared.
I'd be very very happy with Ed Woodward and the board if they can pull these signings off.
42 million euros? That sounds far too low.
He did. It's a bit of a strange one. The new contract reduced his release clause but guarantees them a fee as the previous contract was ending next year. I think if a good enough offer comes, he will leave.
Really hope this ones true. My first choice CB to partner Maguire. 
Perhaps it's higher, it was a google job, other places seem to say in the region of 60, depends if they see him as good value or not, he's 21 but having a french contingent of Pogba and Martial will certainly help.
If this is true then I think we’ve given up on Sancho and decided to fill other holes, which isn’t an awful idea by any means!
Excellent choice if true by the club. Actually a real defender that would add steal to our defense. Not sure about his ball playing abilities, but he can develop into a really great one.
The only issue I have here is not with Upa, but with our incompetent board and how they can go from Upa to Marcos Rojo being the answer
The only issue I have here is not with Upa, but with our incompetent board and how they can go from Upa to Marcos Rojo being the answer
wait till he re-signs and only then try to sign him. Classic 
don't see it this summer. The €42m clause only kicks in next summer, it makes no sense for Leipzig to sell him now unless we completely pay over the odds.
don't see it this summer. The €42m clause only kicks in next summer, it makes no sense for Leipzig to sell him now unless we completely pay over the odds.
No chance this happens, he recently signed a big contract. Maybe next season or after.
Even if he just signed a new deal, im sure it has a release clause. If so, cant we just meet it and try to sort it out with him?
Would be a dream signing to be honest. The caliber of player we should be going for.
Would be a dream signing to be honest. The caliber of player we should be going for.
The clause in his new contract is only active next summer, as far as I'm aware.
Doesnt mean we couldn't strike a deal regardless, of course.
Its possible that contract was only signed to protect the player during UCL, only speculating here though
Ogden knows feckall
Another thing people don`t realise is Utd never enter into bidding wars. All our top targets are usually players with either little or no competition. Maguire and AWB were only wanted by City, Bruno was a free run in January and VDB was also a free run after Madrid dropped out. If Upamecano is a GENUINE target it makes sense for us to try and pay a little more to buy him now than wait till he`s available for 42m and face multiple competitors. We did the same thing with Martial our plan was to buy him in 2016 but we anticipated a bidding war then and fast tracked his signing to 2015 for at the time a record fee for a teenager
Donny, Upamecano and let's say Grealish would not be so bad of a summer, considering the circumstances. Even though it would hurt not getting Sancho.
Good point. We rarely see a bidding war with United involved.
Would absolutely love us to go all in for this kid. Just pay a fair chunk more than what his release clause will be next year.
It’s not like no clubs are going to pay that clause next year, that’s a given, so chuck £10-15mill on top now and let them get a replacement with more money that they will have next summer.
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So it's a 'no-go' then?
Sancho is still the only one that truly elevates and improves our starting 11 (Dayot probably does the latter in fairness) - so I’m still in the camp of Sancho being a must.
We just will not get a player as talented, young (and British as a bonus) for our RW. We just won’t. That one is still numero uno for me and I hope that’s still the case for Ole.
Why?
Not if we pay more than that figure
If we can get Upamecano alongside Van de Beek and Sancho, I will be very happy with our Summer business.
With Upamecano, we can even offer them a cash + player deal, as we have more than enough CBs
Not necessarily, it just means we can’t sign him cheaper as the buyout clause doesn’t become active until next summer. We could still sign him now for a higher fee, how much we won’t know until we contact Leipzig.
Yeah give them Rojo & Jones.
Upamecano would be absolutely incredible, but probably too good to be true. Odgen doesn’t seem to be reliable these days.
Even if the clause is only active from next summer, if they know that he can leave for that amount next year, perhaps they would be willing to sell him this year at that price, or a bit more?
Jan is just giving the facts, which Ogden already highlights in his own article. Basically a pointless tweet. If we wanted him now perhaps we can tempt RB for <42m EUR but I'd assume it has to be swift for RB Leipzig to plan without him. They don't need the cash I assume (relatively rich club owners?) so I still think this is remote.
Exactly. Contact and clauses are meant to protect the player's value. If the club find our bid beneficial , there is no reason we cannot get him.
Of course not, but give them cash plus Bailly or Smalling (or Tuanzebe). In this structure they may accept. Both Smalling and Bailly are good players (not great, but good), and some cash on top
Offer them 55M euros and if see they bite. That's a lot more than the release clause he will go next summer
I'd throw in a bid even if its just to let him know we're interested for when his release clause becomes active
You never know they might be tempted by it
You never know they might be tempted by it
Love this to be true, but Ogden hasn't had a story since he broke Ferguson retiring.
Was the first to report our interest in Van De Beek in January
He was very good during Moyes too I think. He must have had a source in the dressing room from those days. Like you say, he’s had nothing since.
The clause kicks in next year. Don't know what Ogden is basing his information on. He tends to offer very little insight in general so I'll wait to see other credible sources.
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