Smithy89
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If i was Poch i wouldn't wanna come anywhere near this Ed, the Glazers and this club.
That kind of depends. If Klopp came to Old Trafford (for example) how many players would he feel able to adapt to his tactical way of doing things. I mean DdG would be gone straight away for example. It depends if Ole is genuine progress or a blind alley.Yes, and this is where people are undervaluing the job that Ole is doing here. He will be expected to win trophies over the next season or two, but if he doesn't and the club decide to make a change then his successor will certainly inherit a far better situation than Ole did.
Okay. He might be in the conversation - I don’t think he will be and I’ve said why but I may be wrong. And yes I have been guilty of polarised statements and I’ve already said why, but, still, it doesn’t help create interesting debate so hands up there.You don't think it's polarising to state, as if it was a simple fact, that the club wouldn't even consider Poch if we were without a manager? Or to not even bother to back some up such a claim with arguments, while ignoring any counter-arguments? I just completely dismantled your claim that you could pick any five managers from the top-half of the table and they'd all be better than Poch, and you simply decided to ignore it. Get off your high horse. If anyone has been polarising here, it's you.
Every manager will want a couple of players. Might be a tactical approach or they might be trusted lieutenants from before. Thats not what I mean.That kind of depends. If Klopp came to Old Trafford (for example) how many players would he feel able to adapt to his tactical way of doing things. I mean DdG would be gone straight away for example. It depends if Ole is genuine progress or a blind alley.
But what happens if you have 11 players who are used to being told by Ole to improvise in a very loose system, and then a Pep or a Conte comes along with very specific tactical demands these players are not able to cope with because they were literally selected to have the opposite mentality?Every manager will want a couple of players. Might be a tactical approach or they might be trusted lieutenants from before. Thats not what I mean.
The age of the squad. The mentality. The wage bill. The amount of highly paid players not contributing. All of this is being addressed and will be of benefit should the need to replace him come.
Well first of all I dont believe any top level managers would ever implement a very loose, improvisational approach, but what you are describing sounds just like the mistakes that Woodward has made previously with his managerial appointments. Its on him to ensure that we arent flip-flopping from one extreme to another tacticallyBut what happens if you have 11 players who are used to being told by Ole to improvise in a very loose system, and then a Pep or a Conte comes along with very specific tactical demands these players are not able to cope with because they were literally selected to have the opposite mentality?
But isn't that exactly how Ole does things? To be fair other do too, like Rudi Garcia at Lyon (if Memphis Depay is to be believed.) So it's not altogether crazy.Well first of all I dont believe any top level managers would ever implement a very loose, improvisational approach, but what you are describing sounds just like the mistakes that Woodward has made previously with his managerial appointments. Its on him to ensure that we arent flip-flopping from one extreme to another tactically
I would take the chance on him too 100% but it ain't happening with these cash collecting leeching imposters we have as owners. They know feck all about football or any other sport for that matter and I could honestly even see Poch crumble under the leadership of those cnuts.
It is time. We all know it has to be done. We are on the verge of losing our identity as Manchester United.
Poch isn't like our other managers post Fergie. Regardless of a teams quality, he can coach them to play good, cohesive football.yay we've pissed away most of the window.
Let's bring him in now so he has feck all time to do anything.
They rang rings around Pogba and Mctominah.I would go for this. It’s not all Ole’s fault, but if we don’t have a competent director and organisation then the best we can hope for is a coach who can improve our players and have us competing above ourselves.
Completely outclassed today at home by Crystal Palace and a midfield of McArthur, McCarthy, Townsend and Jeff Schupp.
I agree, for all those who talk up his class, it’s all too infrequent. Our midfield should be dominating a game like that. Palace should be lucky to see the ball.They rang rings around Pogba and Mctominah.
Pogba for me needs to go. You just dont know which Pogba will turn up. He is hot and cold and you cannot rely on him.
What now? How would that make any sens?Wouldn't be surprised if he's already on UTDs payroll considering he's been out of work for so long and no team has snapped him up.
Reckon utd signed him up the moment he became available and paid him a hefty sum to wait.
Wouldn't be surprised if he's already on UTDs payroll considering he's been out of work for so long and no team has snapped him up.
Reckon utd signed him up the moment he became available and paid him a hefty sum to wait.
You can’t compare levy backing his manager and Woodward backing ours. Our investment under Woodward, post Sir Alex is significantly greater than Spurs and more than most top team even with Ole as charge. Pochettino will get more backing here than he did at Spurs as long as Ole doesn’t completely squander all the investment we have made in him. For example, if we sign Sancho for £100m plus this season, I feel next window, our next manger will not have the luxury to spend that much. Maybe that is a reason why Woodward has not open the United warchest for Sancho yet because he feels that Ole won’t be here next season.Same shit will happen with Spurs. Levy didn’t back him. Woodward will do the same after a year.
To be fair, it was an exceptionally bad gameYou cant sack him after one game .
Brilliant idea letting newbies post on here.Wouldn't be surprised if he's already on UTDs payroll considering he's been out of work for so long and no team has snapped him up.
Reckon utd signed him up the moment he became available and paid him a hefty sum to wait.
It's been nearly 3 years now. Same ol', same ol' in regards to his problems as a manager.You cant sack him after one game .
It is time. We all know it has to be done. We are on the verge of losing our identity as Manchester United.
You can but that is something what clubs with ambition do. We will wait until Christmas (when Poch will be somewhere else).You cant sack him after one game .
Right, all the talk on here was Ole got us top 4 he needs a chance. Believe me if Poch comes in, if he does, and if its anything like his first season with us you will be as equally fecked off. I love Poch and honestly think he would do very well at United but Ole needs at least 5-10 games if not you will set yourselves back 1-2 seasons.You can but that is something what clubs with ambition do. We will wait until Christmas (when Poch will be somewhere else).
And it is not one game. He is here two years.